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[Chala]

The problems is that mass effect 2 is the mid game, with the middle sotry, not the beggining and not the epic final moment (ME3 in theory). If you see, in me2 you are not making something "big" in fact, this time you are just saving the humans, but also YOU are PREPARING to save the galaxy, recruiting your team, etc.

in resume, you are not making something epic en me2 because you are preparing for the end. This doesn't mean that me2 is bad game, It has a lot of improvements (xcept for the lack of inventory, but I get used to that)

[Jestina]

Not to mention all the content in ME1 compared to the lack of content in ME2...which they will now make you buy as DLC.

[HarradX]

The only viable reason why ME1 could possibly be regarded "better than ME2" is that ME1 provides more of (an illusion of) a feeling of immersion than ME2.

[CherryColaLola]

The Grey Ranger wrote...

CherryColaLola wrote...

I need to be smacked as I''ve not yet bothered to try ME 1 though I'm in love with ME 2 of course.

I had heard that the mechanics in ME 1 particularly the inventory management got tiresome. Plus, the complaints about the combat mechanics in ME 1 make me not even want to bother though I really should.

I can't call my self a true Mass Effect nerd unless I play 1 right?

ME 1 is a good game, your best bet is to just not worry to much about the combat mechanics and just relax and enjoy it for what is, not in comparision to ME 2. 

The thing about inventory management makes me laugh.  Before the game came out there were multiple, sometimes rather heated discussions, about how list inventories were the ruination of rpg's  (We wants our inventory tetris ala Neverwinter.)

So my best advice would be to put aside preconceptions of how it should be based on ME 2.  Just relax and play the game.  Enjoy the story.  Enjoy learning about the galaxy and the people there in.

I guess what I'm really saying is that ME 1 mechanics are functional enough to get the job done, and they back up a really great story.

Makes perfect sense.  I'll try 1 and I won't try to compare it to 2. 

[Christmas Ape]

After playing the whole thing twelve times, I can say OP is probably right.

Still a good enough game for me to play through twelve times though.


Edit: for consistency.

Modifié par Christmas Ape, 29 mai 2010 - 08:44 .

[Astranagant]

It's not overrated until you've played ME2. At least the story is a lot better.

[Fingolfin09]

The whole plot of mass effect(1, 2 and soon to be 3) is the greatest space drama it slays Star Wars or Star trek or any of these so called space dramas at the very least mass effect is genuine but yes ME2 has a better story line and gameplay than ME1 but in whole Mass Effect is the best roleplaying game i have ever played and trust me i know my role playing games.

[badhut]

I played mass effect 2 before mass effect 1,I know that the fact that it was made in 2007 could be considered a reason why the gameplay is **** but I still think it is overrated since it was getting similar scores to bioshock which was released the same year and had far superior gameplay,was a longer game,had better graphics,better controls and argueably a better story

[znmex3r]

Avalla'ch wrote...

znmex3r wrote...

I am thinking of jacking it in, and going straight to ME2. I will hope for better graphics, more fluid combat, less pausing gameplay, and less running around endlessly clicking through dialogue in the desperate search for something to do! Shall I bother?

Less story and more shooting? Gears of War is that way.

Good call.  I might check it out.  Personally I find the Mass Effect storyline really gets in the way.  I try to rush through the conversations, and I never bother reading the game codex.  It seems to me that all the fantasy role playing games are storyline versions of Lord of the Rings, and all the space role playing games are storyline versions of Star Wars.  I've got into the habit of just ignoring the storyline with each game I play. It seems to me that Bioware have trotted out another load of caricature aliens to puff up an otherwise average space game.  But then again, I don't often read novels or watch TV dramas and films, for the same reason.  They're rarely impressive and they feel like a waste of my time.  The only film I really liked in recent times years was Sunshine, because as an exercise in cinematography and music it was so stunning and imaginative.  For computer games, I want to be blown away by the graphics and the action/combat physics and the challenge of fixing puzzles or competing against other people online.  I'm less interested in watching a graphic novel.  I'll try another game instead!  thanks, znmex3r

Modifié par znmex3r, 31 mai 2010 - 11:33 .

[Dreadstruck]

znmex3r wrote...

Good call.....

I see that you have a philosophy of gameplay over story which I don't agree with, I think you need to balance between the two equally especially in an RPG[/b ]like Mass Effect or[b] Dragon Age.

I understand your sentiments (but I am not sure wheter to call you 'casual' since it sounds stupidly elitist coming from me) but seriously, what were you hoping for when you bought Dragon Age and Mass Effect? Diablo Hack'n'Slash with marvellous graphics, porn, shiny loot and titan-like armors?
Or Star Wars with alien porn, lots of pretties and guns? Or Gravity gun?


So yeah, Gears of Wars will probably cater more to your tastes, since it doesn't have such "distractions from pretty explosions" or demands like "just pay attention what this guy has to say, it might backfire in the future. Sometimes like in real life".

Apologies if my post sounded too rude.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 31 mai 2010 - 07:34 .

[Lumikki]

There isn't really much to say, because on these forums there are alot of discussion about all aspects of both games. ME1 and ME2 are little bit different, but not so much that some outsider could not notice the similarity. In the end all discussion by all players here in forum it comes to this.

If you are old ME1 player who build you expectation for ME2 while waiting and got little disapointed. There is very good change that you have been complaining here in this forum about ME2. Player expect sequel of serie be something and it wasn't excactly what was expected. You, who ever you are, may not like what I sayed here, but be honest with you self. It's the builded expectation, what is the real problem.

How ever, if You buyed ME2 first and then ME1 or did not build any expectation while waiting ME2 as sequel, there is good change that these players sees the differences between these games without feeling bigger disapoinments, just differently balanced by content and design. Like both has some bad and good sides when compared. So, like one over other isn't so big deal, more like both are good, just little different ways.

Strong point as what's well done on ME1 are the story and roleplaying. Strong point on ME2 is combat. Now both games has story, roleplaying and combat, it's just question as what game did it little bit better. We could list all the differences and what was better in one and so on, but what's the point. Both games are excelent games. They are excelent cinematic story telling 3rd person shooter roleplaying games.

Modifié par Lumikki, 31 mai 2010 - 09:14 .

[Aradace]

While I loved ME1...There are a few games I have played that are better IMO....ME2, for example, I liked quite a bit more than the first game. Overrated, no...At least not IMO...However, I have yet to play ME1 again for any reason since getting ME2. And to be honest, I will probably only play it one more time and that will be just before the release of ME3, just as I did with Assassin's Creed 1 and 2. ME1 is a good game, and definately a classic...But it will never be able to reach the status in my heart with such games like the entire Legacy of Kain series.



While it may seem like I AM saying ME1 is overrated, I am, in fact, stating quite the opposite with comments such as "classic". But just because a game is a classic, doesnt mean that I dont/wont get tired of playing it

[tonnactus]

The Grey Ranger wrote...



ME 1 is a good game, your best bet is to just not worry to much about the combat mechanics and just relax and enjoy it for what is, not in comparision to ME 2. 

No headshots,right.But why headshots should even matter in game where enemies have shields and armor.All parts of the body could be equally protected.

[HTTP 404]

To OP. What did you think of the story?



I agree with all points, but I think ME1 had a good story with Saren being the antagonist. To play ME1 now is for the story only. lower the difficulty and play through it. Im sure others have advice on the "bad" gameplay mechanics here.

[HTTP 404]

tonnactus wrote...

The Grey Ranger wrote...



ME 1 is a good game, your best bet is to just not worry to much about the combat mechanics and just relax and enjoy it for what is, not in comparision to ME 2. 

No headshots,right.But why headshots should even matter in game where enemies have shields and armor.All parts of the body could be equally protected.

haha, what happens if a bullet goes through the protection?  if it was your head, you would be dead.  what about your arm or your leg ?

[tonnactus]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...


haha, what happens if a bullet goes through the protection?  if it was your head, you would be dead. 

You are also dead when an enemy target the heart.Its not that the head is the only vulnerable part of the body.And its not the case that headshots only do more damage when the protection is gone.Right from the start when you hit the enemy.

[HTTP 404]

tonnactus wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...


haha, what happens if a bullet goes through the protection?  if it was your head, you would be dead. 

You are also dead when an enemy target the heart.Its not that the head is the only vulnerable part of the body.And its not the case that headshots only do more damage when the protection is gone.Right from the start when you hit the enemy.

I see your point and still disagree but unwilling to argue because I just don't care

[ShamieGTX]

iharal5 wrote...

Warning, mild spoilers ahead.

I bought Mass Effect 2 a few weeks ago, without ever having played any of the Mass Effect games, or read any books. Therefore,  Mass Effect 2 was my real introduction to the series, and to be honest; I loved it. Mass Effect 2 was one of the best games I had ever played. And afterwards I fell in love with the whole universe, I started posting on Mass Effect forums, watching vids on youtube, and exploring the ME universe via the ME wikia. And of course, I felt like I had to buy Me1, because all you guys said that "OMG Mass Effect 2 sucks Me1 is waaay better".

So, of course, I went happily down to the store and bought, waiting for an experience that would overcome Me2. The first think I noticed when starting up the game was that it was lagging. Or, well, not exactly lagging, but that it had a far lower FPS than Me2. Okay, fair enough, not that big a deal. But the real problems start once I start playing the game itself;

 - Kaidan has no personality. Seriously, I'm getting the feeling that he is just blood and flesh, and then the arch-stereotypical brain of the common man. And yet, people are loving him, making threads for his return in Me3 and bla bla bla. Honestly, a blind volus unable to speak who could not hold a gun would be a more entertaining squadmate. After having tried all possible conversations with him (as Femshep) I still can't figure if there's more to him than just a soldier with a nice haircut.

- Horrific fighting. Or, well, not horrific. But really bad compared to ME2. The crosshair scale makes it hard to see if you're actually hitting anything. Your teammates are more like puppets to control rather than individuals that helps you. 

- Auto-save. When I started my save I enabled auto-save, so that I wouldn't have to stop the game and save every 10 minutes. Well, turned out, even with auto-save enabled, you still have to do that, since the auto-save doesn't save more than like 2-3 times on each mission. This especially bothered me on Noveria, where I died against Benezia, and had to start like 25 minutes back, just because I thought the autosave would handle these kind off things.

- The terrible Mako controls. I have the feeling that this have been complained about a lot, so I won't go much further with it.

- The Noveria boss fight. My god, I was so freaking annoyed when I for the third time got my arm stuck in the crate, and the Asari Commando finished me off, and I had to replay the Benezia dialouge for the third time. This part of the game was directly destructive for my experience of the game.

- The lack of debt in characters. Out of all the characters, Ashley, Liara and Wrex was the only ones that I really got to know. Garrus was for me just being a regular Turian (which changed in ME2, where I completely felt he was my brother from another mother). Tali neither didn't give me to much to cheer for. She was mosly annoying when answering questions about the geth to the other squadmembers (such as Wrex).

Now, as I've so far been ****ing this game over with whining, I think it is fair to say that I also think it exceeds Mass Effect 2 in some ways. For instance the story. Mass Effect 2 had just about no progress at all, and no clear archenemy to defeat. While in ME1, I pissed my pants out of respect for Saren and Sovereign. Also, a lot of the dialogue is way better in ME1, and of course the Citadel w/ Presidium is friggin awesome.

All I want is people to stop whining about ME2. I'm pretty sure that if you had tried Mass Effect 2 first, and then Mass Effect 1 afterwards, you'd be feeling the same way as I. ME2 improved almost every aspect of the game, maybe with exception of the story. But the characters, the graphics, the fighting, the animations, the places, it all has way more depth than in ME1. And I still haven't seen any reasonable argument contradicting that.
 
So in the end, what I'm trying to do; I whine about the whiners who whine about Mass Effect 2.

Sorry if some of the english wasn't too good here. I'm from Norway and still have three years left until I'm finished with English =)

In Regard to the title?
NO NO NO NO CALL OF DUTY MODERN WARFARE 2 IS OVERRATED! YOU BAMBLING NOOB! 

[The Grey Ranger]

tonnactus wrote...

No headshots,right.But why headshots should even matter in game where enemies have shields and armor.All parts of the body could be equally protected.

The mechanics are less important to me.  Both are functional and I enjoyed the combat and game play in both.  So I guess I'm saying I don't really care about the mechanics, as long as they are enjoyable and do a good job of supporting the story.  This is the case, for me, with both games.

[minkivonki]

After a really long break from ME1 I started an Engineer a few days ago and I must say that I'm really enjoying the game. The first thing that caught my eye was that sometimes the characters look quite bad, especially the hair and the clothes/armor. But little things like that don't really bother me because I've never really been concerned about graphics much. The story is great and the same can be said about the dialogue, and some of the characters are great too... I've never really had problems with the combat mechanics or the Mako, some planets just have an annoyingly rough terrain. Combat in ME2 is more fluid though, I'm not gonna deny that, and the usage of sniper riffles is just awesome.

I guess I'm an old-school RPG'er because I really like the fact that in ME1 you can run around in the Citadel and drive around the planets with the Mako. Little things like that seem to be quite important to me. It bothers me a bit that some RPGs nowadays seem to lack that kind of "open" atmosphere. You "jump" from place to place and everything happens in confined areas.

Anyway, eventually I'll transport my new engineer to ME2 and I'm certain that I'll enjoy it also...

Modifié par minkivonki, 01 juin 2010 - 11:43 .