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[SarEnyaDor]

Some one has probably already posted it but this

http://news.yahoo.co...ent_video_games

is probably going to be watched very carefully by game developers. Can you imagine any of the justices actually setting up a 360 or PS3 in the courtroom and playing GTA or Resident Evil?

[Appolo90]

I just skimmed the story, but it seems kind of meaningless to me. Banning sales to minors, right? They'll just have mommy and daddy pick it up for them so they can play, which has already been happening for since the M rating was introduced.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Darht Jayder wrote...

I hate government sponsored censorship. It is up to parents to censor what their kids watch and play, hence the rating system. No body wants to take responsibility these days so let the state decide what is allowable....sheesh.

That's the wellfare Daddy State for you. 

[SarEnyaDor]

The important part ( IMHO) was that if it passes retailers will be fined $1000 per game sold, that could very well lead to retailers not wanting to carry certain games anymore to curtail the possibility of mistakes happening which would limit our ability to pick and choose where we buy games from if no one wants to risk carrying them. No competition leads to higher game prices etc etc.



Just something to watch.

[Loerwyn]

How does the ESRB function over there?
Over here (UK), we've got PEGI and BBFC. You can't sell an 18 rated game (BBFC or PEGI) to someone under 18, for example, as that breaks the law.

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 26 avril 2010 - 04:01 .

[Appolo90]

How is there even a way to enforce this? Kids can go online and lie about their age to order any game. They don't even need their parents' credit cards because there are pre-paid debit cards available in any old store now.



And retailers won't stop carrying games to evade a fine. They will just tell their employees to stop making exceptions or they're fired. You're crazy if you think they'll stop carrying 18+ rated games because of an easily avoidable $1000 fine.

[crysischaos]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

The ESRB, it does nothing.

Except that consoles don't allow AO rated titles on their systems, so if the ESRP gives it that, like Manhunt 2, then they have to edit the game to get it on the console.  But the ESRB seems to be a lot like the MPAA anyways, if it's a highly rated and very profitable title, then they seem willing to fudge what they deem to be a T vs MA vs AO from title to title.

[Dethateer]

Appolo90 wrote...

I just skimmed the story, but it seems kind of meaningless to me. Banning sales to minors, right? They'll just have mommy and daddy pick it up for them so they can play, which has already been happening for since the M rating was introduced.

Isn't that the way things already are? I mean, it IS illegal to sell M/18+ games to minors.

[SarEnyaDor]

Currently it is just a guideline, but it is not enforced or anything.



And, I guess I am crazy then, but I'm old enough to remember when Blockbuster carried adult videos in special section of the store, too. Just sayin'....

[Loerwyn]

SarEnyaDor wrote...
Currently it is just a guideline, but it is not enforced or anything.

That's the problem then. Enforce the ratings. Works over here in the UK for the most part, except when Daddy goes and buys GTA IV for Lil' 8yr Old Timmy, in which case the father would take the blame and not the store (if the son isn't present at the time of purchase).
I had to have my mum with me a few years ago to trade in a GTA game.

[SarEnyaDor]

Yeah, I don't think the newly-minted 18 year olds understand how retailers will adapt (in directions they won't like) when/if this guideline becomes a law that is enforced.

[crysischaos]

They may not currently enforce the rating system in terms of a law, but at least for me, when I buy an M rated game, I often get carded. So, some stores do check, some probably don't want to as they assume it's a potential loss of revenue.

[SarEnyaDor]

That's one thing they could do, another is not carry certain titles, another would be raising prices to cover insurance costs, another is to not sell online without a driver's license number... there are numerous irksome things that could be implemented if they allow this law.

[Apophis2412]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

The important part ( IMHO) was that if it passes retailers will be fined $1000 per game sold, that could very well lead to retailers not wanting to carry certain games anymore to curtail the possibility of mistakes happening which would limit our ability to pick and choose where we buy games from if no one wants to risk carrying them. No competition leads to higher game prices etc etc.

Just something to watch.

Wiat a minute! The game company gets fined because a minor bought one of their games!?
Shouldn't the parents be fined in this case?

[SarEnyaDor]

Don't you know that parents can't possibly be expected to watch their offspring 24 hours a day?



Now you see why I'm interested in watching how this unfolds, fines have a way of making an impact on businesses.

[SarEnyaDor]

Er, I don't think the GAME COMPANY would get fined, but Gamestop, or Walmart or Amazon - the RETAILER would get fined.

[Loerwyn]

Apophis2412 wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

The important part ( IMHO) was that if it passes retailers will be fined $1000 per game sold, that could very well lead to retailers not wanting to carry certain games anymore to curtail the possibility of mistakes happening which would limit our ability to pick and choose where we buy games from if no one wants to risk carrying them. No competition leads to higher game prices etc etc.

Just something to watch.

Wiat a minute! The game company gets fined because a minor bought one of their games!?
Shouldn't the parents be fined in this case?

No, not at all. It is (in the UK at least) the retailer's job to check the age of the customer if they suspect they are underage. Whether they're buying alcohol, a DVD, cigarettes, porn, gaming magazines (ones with DVDs are BBFC rated), games, a lottery ticket knives or anything else restricted.
So, say you're 16 and you go into a store alone and pick up MW2 and go to the cashier with it. How is your parent responsible for this transaction at all? If the till assistant thinks you're underage then they can and will ask for ID to verify your age.
It's just an extension of the store's ability to refuse service.

[Beocat]

Apophis2412 wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

The important part ( IMHO) was that if it passes retailers will be fined $1000 per game sold, that could very well lead to retailers not wanting to carry certain games anymore to curtail the possibility of mistakes happening which would limit our ability to pick and choose where we buy games from if no one wants to risk carrying them. No competition leads to higher game prices etc etc.

Just something to watch.

Wiat a minute! The game company gets fined because a minor bought one of their games!?
Shouldn't the parents be fined in this case?

Apophis...you are forgetting the American mentality.  It is NEVER the consumer's fault.  Big bad industry MADE them do it.