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[crysischaos]

Palpatine

[Jalem001]

Palpatine. Did what the Sith before him couldn't!



Though it will be interesting to see what happens in TOR.

[JRCHOharry]

When is TOR set? 300 years after KOTOR2?



Aaaah, i cant remember...

[crysischaos]

JRCHOharry wrote...

When is TOR set? 300 years after KOTOR2?

Aaaah, i cant remember...

Edit: you are right, 300 years

Modifié par crysischaos, 26 avril 2010 - 05:54 .

[Rubbish Hero]

Darth Sidious.
His whole persona basically is influencing as opposed
to swinging light sabers.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 26 avril 2010 - 05:57 .

[Apophis2412]

Most powerful Sith:



In terms of raw power: Darth Nihilus.

The best warrior/general: Darth Revan

Best manipulator: Darth Sidious

The one who has the largest legacy: Darth Sidious





Most powerful Jedi.

In terms of raw power: Luke Skywalker

The best warrior/general: Perhaps Mace Windu for inventing the best lightsabre style.

The best teacher: Yoda

The one with the largest legacy: Either Yoda or Luke.

[Jalem001]

Darth Nihlus doesn't count. He's got a BS power.

[ImperialOperative]

Jalem001 wrote...

Darth Nihlus doesn't count. He's got a BS power.

No

[Apophis2412]

Jalem001 wrote...

Darth Nihlus doesn't count. He's got a BS power.

Darth Nihilus and his powers are canon as far as Lucas Arts is concerned.

[Frieza1987]

In terms of who had the most influence:
Sith - Palpatine
Jedi - Luke Skywalker

In terms of who had the most awesome:
Jolee Bindo

Apophis2412 wrote...
The best teacher: Yoda

Lol, I hope you mean his training of Luke. Yoda's extraordinary teaching skills and leadership in Episodes I - III pretty much single-handedly brought about the destruction of the Jedi order. Not that that was a bad thing, the Jedi order of that time was a stagnating, politically-motivated drain on the galaxy that needed to be wiped out.

[Pacifien]

I'll go with Darth Revan because something about how Darth Sidious went about his rise to power and maintained power lacks style. As a Sith, I'd be insulted if someone said my elite skills showed Sidious's influence.

I'll go with Yoda being the most influential Jedi. Sure, he botched it during the prequels, but his teachings laid the foundation for the re-emergence of the Jedi Order. Um, and he had more style than Luke.

Yes, okay, I'm blinded by style.

[scxenophobe]

No mention of the Rule of Two? Pft.

Edit: Revan and Luke
Edit Edit: Also Darth Bane.

Modifié par scxenophobe, 26 avril 2010 - 07:35 .

[Jalem001]

Apophis2412 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

Darth Nihlus doesn't count. He's got a BS power.

Darth Nihilus and his powers are canon as far as Lucas Arts is concerned.

So is the Force Unleashed.  Doesn't mean its not bull****.

[JasonPogo]

scxenophobe wrote...

No mention of the Rule of Two? Pft.

Edit: Revan and Luke
Edit Edit: Also Darth Bane.

How is this the first time Bane's name comes up.  Isn't he the one that came up with the rule of two and paved the way for The Empires rise to power?


As for Jedi I will cast my vote for Obi-Wan.  I mean the guy trained and was like a father figure to both Vader and Luke.  He was also a kick ass fighter who schooled Vader.

[scxenophobe]

JasonPogo wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

No mention of the Rule of Two? Pft.

Edit: Revan and Luke
Edit Edit: Also Darth Bane.

How is this the first time Bane's name comes up.  Isn't he the one that came up with the rule of two and paved the way for The Empires rise to power?


As for Jedi I will cast my vote for Obi-Wan.  I mean the guy trained and was like a father figure to both Vader and Luke.  He was also a kick ass fighter who schooled Vader.

Revan made the Rule of Two, Bane as you said paved the way.

[Frieza1987]

*SPOILER*



Question: is Darth Bane Palpatine? Or did Zannah really *mostly* defeat his body change? I don't know if there are comics continuing their story, but I was never entirely convinced that Darth Bane was destroyed in the novels.

[Frieza1987]

Capt. Obvious wrote...
The strongest Jedi ever is probably Luke Skywalker.

In terms of control Luke might be up there, but both Kyp Durron and Anakin Solo had more raw force potential.

Capt. Obvious wrote...
He did what Anakin couldn't. That deserves some real points. And considering how powerful he was in the EU taking place after the end of ROTJ, it certainly makes sense.

Did what? Kill Palpatine?

[Kenrae]

Bah, Revan for the win. My Revan, of course

[Frieza1987]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Frieza1987 wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...
The strongest Jedi ever is probably Luke Skywalker.

In terms of control Luke might be up there, but both Kyp Durron and Anakin Solo had more raw force potential.

Capt. Obvious wrote...
He did what Anakin couldn't. That deserves some real points. And considering how powerful he was in the EU taking place after the end of ROTJ, it certainly makes sense.

Did what? Kill Palpatine?

He brought balance to the Force. OK, sure, it was technically Anakin that through Palpatine in the real core but Luke didn't resort to raw power. Instead, he gave Vader a chance to redeem himself. If it weren't for that, they Battle of Endor may have been lost. While many Jedi and Sith had their strengths and weaknesses Luke had an aptitude in every aspect of the Force. No doubt considering his progress the Force, one could say that Luke had the best connection to the Force. I will say however, that Anakin could have been stronger than even Luke if he hadn't been doing some stupid things. And while I would like to go a bit further in this,  I will say that Lucas himself said that Luke was the most powerful Force user to exist. It may not mean that he'll always be the strongest but in the novels it was implied that he completely mastered the Light Side of the Force.

If I remember correctly, in one battle Luke enveloped himself completely in the Force and one of the most powerful Jedi on the order couldn't even SEE him move as he cut through an entire army. If that's not good enough for you, just remember what Lucas said.

As to saying who had the most influence? Well, that is something that could be argued about forever. Vader was influential. Sidious was influential. Bane was influential. Yoda was influential. They were all influential to some degree. 

Oh, I didn't mean that I think Kyp or Anakin could actually win if they fought Luke, I know that Luke's greater control and understanding of the Force makes him a more dangerous oponent. I just meant that Kyp and Anakin have a larger Force reservoir that they could call on than Luke. Kyp could create a stronger force push, but Luke could direct it better and make it more damaging.

As far as what Lucas says, I don't give a sh*t. After creating the original trilogy, the only thing he's ever done for Star Wars is make it a joke. I know a lot of people may disagree with me, but what Lucas says isn't the ultimate source for canon. Hearing some of the stuff he said in the dvd special features for Episodes I - III --- I've never hated someone quite that much before.