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[mortons4ck]

Whailor wrote...

I don't know why so many are crying that custom male Shepard faces look bad. So make a better one. As far as I have seen none of the custom female ones look exactly that good either. Funnily enough they pretty much all have exactly the same "base line". I don't know why but it seems like custom female Shepards are all made from the same face. At least I never got such feeling with male Shepard faces.

As for wrinkles around eyes and such, well, Shepard isn't exactly a kid or a teenager or just out of puberty. I personally would assume that his age would be between 30 and 40. So few wrinkles here and there are quite OK, they add a character. No normal face is as smooth as an elven arse at that age.

My Shepard looks like below. It fits me well, to me my Shepard is somewhere in mid-30's, a man who's seen a lot of action, been to many strange places, seen things what others haven't even dreamt of and, heck, he even died and came back. If anything, there should be more facial scar options. Of course, more hairstyles wouldn't hurt either. But all in all, I am satisfied with the face and personally consider custom male faces to be by far better and more original then all of the "made from the same block" female faces. And ME2 has definitely more options then ME1, hopefully ME3 will get even more.

Always bet on the Duke.

I gotta say, that's one of the better looking custom shepard's i've seen.

I usually stick with the default, as I'm none to talented with the custom face maker, and my custom Shepard's look like sins against nature.

Modifié par mortons4ck, 27 avril 2010 - 11:06 .

[SkullandBonesmember]

Whailor wrote...

I don't know why so many are crying that custom male Shepard faces look bad. So make a better one. As far as I have seen none of the custom female ones look exactly that good either. Funnily enough they pretty much all have exactly the same "base line". I don't know why but it seems like custom female Shepards are all made from the same face. At least I never got such feeling with male Shepard faces.

As for wrinkles around eyes and such, well, Shepard isn't exactly a kid or a teenager or just out of puberty.

Shepard is 32 tops, and it damn well isn't even somewhat common for somebody that age to look like this-



Soldier or not.

[Ryzaki]

Oh noes people want to make a young clean shaven long haired shepard whatever shall you do?



Oh I know! Not use the options to make your Shepard look like that!

[SkullandBonesmember]

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh noes people want to make a young clean shaven long haired shepard whatever shall you do?

Oh I know! Not use the options to make your Shepard look like that!

Dude. It seems like practically everybody is content with whatever we can get with customization.

Making a realistic looking Shepard isn't as easy as "just do it".

[Ryzaki]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh noes people want to make a young clean shaven long haired shepard whatever shall you do?

Oh I know! Not use the options to make your Shepard look like that!

Dude. It seems like practically everybody is content with whatever we can get with customization.

Making a realistic looking Shepard isn't as easy as "just do it".

I know that. *uses Default Sheploo most of the time for that reason*

Seriously though I have a few faces I"ve created that I *liked* but the hair bugged me. <_<

[SkullandBonesmember]

Ryzaki wrote...

I know that. *uses Default Sheploo most of the time for that reason*

Seriously though I have a few faces I"ve created that I *liked* but the hair bugged me. <_<

I'll admit default MaleShep's face is cool, but he doesn't look 32. I wish they just made Shepard's age 40-45 to match the crappy graphics.

Modifié par SkullandBonesmember, 28 avril 2010 - 02:05 .

[Whailor]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

Shepard is 32 tops, and it damn well isn't even somewhat common for somebody that age to look like this-



Soldier or not.

32 sounds normal, I myself always considered him to be between 30 and 40 so fits into range

Regarding the face in that video then... Well, can't comment, heh. I'm not a big "customizer" myself, I usually try to make a normal looking custom face. If it comes out I'll stick with it. If not then I either play with default model or check around forums and sites to find a "base" image I could use as a starting points and then customize it to my preferences. I am not the creator of the "base image" for this particular custom Shepard. I saw the base face in one of the screenshot topics and for the first time I felt then that "aha, that's a face which would fit and even is quite similar to my ME1 char face!", so I asked for a code and then adjusted it in several areas and this is the end result (another shot):



I've seen many male Shepards before that and they ranged from "normal" to "scary" to outright "silly". Still, I guess that most should agree that even the silly faces at times can be a good thing, I mean, most people here on forums know the "Ugly Shepard" and his adventures Not a face I would ever use - though I admit that some personal tries at times ended with something similar, heh - but still nice to see how someone turned it into a story of it's own and entertains people. So, yes, creating a custom face can be quite a challenge. From personal experience can also tell that trying to create a custom face to match some real world person (like some celebrity) can at times lead to even stranger outcomes.

So no, I am not bothered myself with the face customization options. There are many options (and I hope that ME3 will get even more). If anything then it's the lack of my own personal skill which in many cases prevents me from creating a normal face to use. Still, the "face code" feature in ME2 is a very very nice touch and helps greatly - you can get the code for any custom face and use it, adjust if you want, to create your own perfect Shepard, male or female. So if anything, ME2 can be actually nominated as a "new standard" in face customization with these options. And yes, it's even more flexible in most areas then DA: O is.

[Kryyptehk]

The face code is freaking awesome. They really hit the mark with that one. It really should be standard with most games that offer customization like ME and DA:O.



Unfortunately, I can't picture Jennifer Hale sounding like anyone except my FemShep, so I haven't really used it yet, but I definitely appreciate it.

[SkullandBonesmember]

Whailor wrote...

Regarding the face in that video then... Well, can't comment, heh. I'm not a big "customizer" myself, I usually try to make a normal looking custom face. If it comes out I'll stick with it. If not then I either play with default model or check around forums and sites to find a "base" image I could use as a starting points and then customize it to my preferences. I am not the creator of the "base image" for this particular custom Shepard. I saw the base face in one of the screenshot topics and for the first time I felt then that "aha, that's a face which would fit and even is quite similar to my ME1 char face!", so I asked for a code and then adjusted it in several areas and this is the end result (another shot): 



I've seen many male Shepards before that and they ranged from "normal" to "scary" to outright "silly". Still, I guess that most should agree that even the silly faces at times can be a good thing, I mean, most people here on forums know the "Ugly Shepard" and his adventures Not a face I would ever use - though I admit that some personal tries at times ended with something similar, heh - but still nice to see how someone turned it into a story of it's own and entertains people. So, yes, creating a custom face can be quite a challenge. From personal experience can also tell that trying to create a custom face to match some real world person (like some celebrity) can at times lead to even stranger outcomes.

So no, I am not bothered myself with the face customization options. There are many options (and I hope that ME3 will get even more). If anything then it's the lack of my own personal skill which in many cases prevents me from creating a normal face to use. Still, the "face code" feature in ME2 is a very very nice touch and helps greatly - you can get the code for any custom face and use it, adjust if you want, to create your own perfect Shepard, male or female. So if anything, ME2 can be actually nominated as a "new standard" in face customization with these options. And yes, it's even more flexible in most areas then DA: O is.

That Shepard isn't too bad. Not as good as mine, but still good.  
Seriously, some custom Shepards can look good in most lighting, but others only look decent 20 percent of the time or so. And I can't understand why Bioware is so lazy with it.

[Brako Shepard]

The thing is though, its only a head. You would think BioWare could have done it much better. In most other games they have the whole body to allow customization. I a fine with just the head part on Mass Effect, I just think it needs a complete re-do and have a heck of a lot more creation.



Eye patches, Scars, huge range of hair styles, colour system which allows you to tweak default colours to the actual colour you would like etc.

[A Killing Sound]

Don't forget cigarettes. Since the Illusive Man is constantly seen with his, I want one hangng out of my Shepard's mouth all the time.

[Brako Shepard]

There is no point in giving the gamer control over Shepards decissions throughout the story, but then saying your Shepard isn't allowed to like this this because such and such a thing.



As for the facial expressions. Mass Effect 2 does have some good moments, but its not like they have been never been done before. Games like Saints Row 2 allowed complete facial customization aswell as the rest of the body, and to this day it is still the best. Godfather from EA also had excellent facial expressions for its time. Its not the expressions that are hard to do I think, its making the skin look as close to human tissue as possible. Stage 3 of complextion is very life like, its only downside is that it looks too old for Shepards age.



If there was a type of age slider to then counter the stage 3 complextion setting, I think this could help alot.

[Jed Q]

Darkhour wrote...

One of the main things I notice about malesheps that genuinely aren't good is that they have too much space between the nose and upper lip. When you give a face weird proportions it's the creators fault, not the character creator itself.

Funny...i think 80% of the male custom sheps sniffs their upperlip, looking like inbred morons. Maybe it's the new 'beauty thing' among kids. Beats me.

[Brako Shepard]

Yes both ME and ME2 suffed the same thing with the nose. You can shorten the chin and alter the space for the mouth between the chin and nose, but this then effects if you wish to have any type of facial hair.



Also. Why do none of the beards or anything connect to the sideburns? It looks stupid having an inch gap between sideburn and stubble etc.

[SkullandBonesmember]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Eh, I think characters look the worst in the upgrade screen and the beginning cutscenes on the Lazarus Project space station. I sympathize with those who really want to customize their male Sheps as the game does not make it easy to create one that is appealing, unique, and believable. I've seen a few on the database site that are stand outs but most---more so than the femSheps--look odd. I think that's why the maleSheps get higher star ratings but that's besides the point.
   Atleast with DA:O you can change the size of the nose, its tip, bridge, etc. The same goes with the eyes. Hell, even Oblivion allowed adjustments for neck slopes....neck slopes. Who thinks of that when customizing?! Yet it does show how limited ME's face creation is. I would like to think that the limitations are due to Bioware having to make accomodations for nuanced voice acting which a game like DA:O and Oblivion lack. Still, I would love to be able to create a male that doesn't look like a flat-faced, simian-like creation.

[Conman013]

The main thing that always bugged me about the creators where the hair, eyes and nose. The eyes in particular. The best one I could always find, made Shepard seem like he was surprised all the time. The hair was tolerable, but some more options wouldn't hurt. The nose is workable, but I've got a big, but skinny, ol' schnoze and the noses on there are either too flat, or too fat. Just a few extra sliders for the creator would be nice. Something like DA's I found that one to work most to my liking.

[Brako Shepard]

Saints Row 2 had the best customization I have ever seen in a game. You could tweak and twist ever section of the face. It took a while to do as you could really perfect you look. If you chaps ever get the chance, go take at look at the official Saints Row 2 forums and check out the create player section. It really is very good.



Godfather was pretty basic as it was a PS2 game, but it is still very indepth to this day, the sequal however featured a very poor customization similar to Mass Effect.



If BioWare could just do something like Saints Row 2's create section, it would be fantastic. Creating lots of different faces is tonnes of fun just on its own, aswell as helping out community members who aren't too clever at that kind of thing.

[Xephyr829]

Maybe they will fix it in 10 years when they rerelease the trilogy

[Brako Shepard]

Well from playing both Dragon Age and Mass Effect, it seems player creation is just not there strong point.



To be honest though it seems to be an RPG thing. All the 360 RPG's I have ever played have always had crap face customization.

[psyman]

My femshep looks quite different to the ones I've seen on the ME2 face site that stick to the base features. I have a very broad tastes; big, small, round, thin, whatever, but default femshep is just damn ugly to me to be perfectly honest. Her face has so many craggy sharp vertices, it doesn't look very human. Would have been nice if they scanned in a real human face.