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[Loerwyn]

There's also KotOR (Xbox), Far Cry (I think that had console releases), Supreme Commander (that's now on 360 too), Unreal Tournament 3 (pretty sure that's on consoles), Command & Conquer (has had some console presence), Half-Life (console presence) etc

It's far from a perfect image, but it gets the point across.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3 has mod support.

EDIT:  Plus many of those games have been on consoles (DOom, Duke Nukem) but for the most part point of origin is what counts.  UT3, Command and Conquer and SupCOm are PC games.

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 28 avril 2010 - 01:00 .

[Rubbish Hero]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3 has mod
support.

That's nice and all, but nearly every pc game
has modding, map making e.t.c...
Consoles will always be a primarily closed platform for
multiple reasons. e.g. Paying $15 for 5 maps. Made millions.

Sadly, they are attempting to force this mentality on pc users.

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

There's also KotOR (Xbox), Far Cry (I think that had console releases), Supreme Commander (that's now on 360 too), Unreal Tournament 3 (pretty sure that's on consoles), Command & Conquer (has had some console presence), Half-Life (console presence) etc
It's far from a perfect image, but it gets the point across.

Pretty much every game listed there is inferior to the pc version.
In the case of Far Cry, it's a diffrent game.

Onyx Jaguar wrote...Plus I am far closer to a monitor than a TV
screen. 

Which is basically what I just said.
Also, many people are still
playing 1.6.

Unless you have some specific niche set up, most
people will choose the mouse and keyboard of a typical computer desk, as
it's more appropriate.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 28 avril 2010 - 01:20 .

[Funkcase]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3 has mod
support.

That's nice and all, but nearly every pc game
has modding, map making e.t.c...
Consoles will always be a primarily closed platform for
multiple reasons. e.g. Paying $15 for 5 maps. Made millions.

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

There's also KotOR (Xbox), Far Cry (I think that had console releases), Supreme Commander (that's now on 360 too), Unreal Tournament 3 (pretty sure that's on consoles), Command & Conquer (has had some console presence), Half-Life (console presence) etc
It's far from a perfect image, but it gets the point across.

Pretty much every game listed there is inferior to the pc version.
In the case of Far Cry, it's a diffrent game.

Dead space is better on console as is Bioshock and i played HL2 (The orange box) on pc and 360 and i dont see a difference in gameplay. And Alan wake is coming to the 360, and the ps3 has uncharted 2 and God of war. Pc and console are both good, but fighting over what is better is childish.

[Rubbish Hero]

Funkcase wrote...Dead space is better on console as is
Bioshock.

In what way?
You can list factually based
non preference points as to why the pc versions are better

Funkcase
wrote... i played HL2 (The orange box) on pc and 360 and i dont see a
difference in gameplay..

Hows that horrible netcode on
Team Fortress 2?
Are you enjoyiing the
updates Valve can do on the fly, for free? Are you modding Halflife 2 to
look and play better?
No? Thought not.

Funkcase wrote...  And Alan wake is coming to the 360, and the ps3 has uncharted 2 and God of war. Pc and console are both good.

And Starcraft 2 and Diablo III are coming to the pc along with Guild Wars 2, The Old Republic e.t.c....
I have no problem with console games, God Of War is good, sadly when they are designed to be crossplatform, with the console as the lead platform, they do get streamlined. Games like God Of War and Uncharted 2 are typical console games, games such as Fallout and Bioshock would have been better if they were pc designed only.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 28 avril 2010 - 01:28 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Rubbish Hero wrote...


Unless you have some specific niche set up, most
people will choose the mouse and keyboard of a typical computer desk, as
it's more appropriate.

[Loerwyn]

The keyboard and mouse is the most accurate and precise control method out of the two (i.e. KB+M or Controller), but there are times when the controller is the best method. I find sandbox games (GTA, for example) are much better with a controller than they are with a keyboard and mouse set up.

[Onyx Jaguar]

"Accurate and precise" is down to which you are more accustomed with. Give an arcade player a mouse instead of a joystick and they will be flailing. The same applies for all input methods.  What the Mouse has is range and a direct link to eye hand coordination that is missed with other input methods.

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 28 avril 2010 - 01:42 .

[Loerwyn]

Nah, it's actually not to do with that, surprisingly.

The mouse is actually a much more precise method of control. and it can be made more or less so depending on if you have various DPI settings. The game I always use to prove this is Shadowrun on the 360/PC. The developers had to give an aiming-aid like thing to the 360 players so they could actually compete with those who use the mouse.

[Hayllee]

YAY!



YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!



*pauses* Okay, fine, I'm ridiculous, and have no insightful intelligent comment to critique games. I just really liked Fallout 3.

[Sword For Hire]

What is your favorite color? Blue no yellowwwwwwwwww!!!
www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Sword For Hire, 28 avril 2010 - 09:00 .

[monika26]

Wow!! New Vegas looks great! I loved Fallout 3, hopefully New Vegas will be just as massive! New Vegas is definitely on my must buy list!

[jsachun]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3 has mod
support.

That's nice and all, but nearly every pc game
has modding, map making e.t.c...
Consoles will always be a primarily closed platform for
multiple reasons. e.g. Paying $15 for 5 maps. Made millions.

Sadly, they are attempting to force this mentality on pc users.

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

There's also KotOR (Xbox), Far Cry (I think that had console releases), Supreme Commander (that's now on 360 too), Unreal Tournament 3 (pretty sure that's on consoles), Command & Conquer (has had some console presence), Half-Life (console presence) etc
It's far from a perfect image, but it gets the point across.

Pretty much every game listed there is inferior to the pc version.
In the case of Far Cry, it's a diffrent game.

Onyx Jaguar wrote...Plus I am far closer to a monitor than a TV
screen. 

Which is basically what I just said.
Also, many people are still
playing 1.6.

Unless you have some specific niche set up, most
people will choose the mouse and keyboard of a typical computer desk, as
it's more appropriate.

Fallout 3 should not be included in that list. From my exprience & what I've heard from others Fallout 3 also was a superior exprience on PC than any consoles as wells being the least buggy. Unlike ME2. At least in ME they gave PC user's a slighlty different UI to interact with Companions as well as supporting keyboard shorcuts to select & draw diff. weapons. I can't seem to be able to do this on ME2 & UI for the companion is actually worst than ME. Only thing that annoyed me about Fallout 3 PC version was that the game crashed when I accessed the desktop area while the game was running. Apparently the engine doesn't support it.  And I don't belive Fallout New Vegas is going to be any different. If it is, it should be better.

Modifié par jsachun, 29 avril 2010 - 12:12 .

[Loerwyn]

Fallout 3 (just like Oblivion, Morrowind, Dragon Age etc) is one of those games that by its very nature will be superior on the PC. I don't mean that in an elitist way but due to the expansion qualities of the PC (i.e. you can upgrade it, you can fiddle with the settings more etc) the game experience can be made 2, 3 or even 100 times better. I'm only running a few mods on the PC version of Fallout 3 (Unofficial Fallout 3 patch, Fellout, backpack mod, a few visual mods) and it's really enhanced the game for me. Same with Dragon Age, just a few mods and the gameplay is much better for me.



I'm hoping that the market doesn't change too much, though. I like the idea that consoles are the cheaper and simpler option (i.e. put in the disc and off you go) whereas the PC can be like that but also is more open to those who wish to modify/enhance their gaming experience. Just my thoughts, anyway.

[Mr.Skar]

I liked Fallout 3 enough (part of the crowd that wasn't too offended by how different from 1&2 it was) so I'm looking forward to this. Also, GRENADE MACHINE GUN.

[Emperor Mars]

must...find....job....too many games....

[jsachun]

Few more screen shots.

For all you energy freaks(Me) out there, plasma rifle is confirmed. I get to leave green goo all over Vegas. 



Gee, Is this going too far even for the Melee Combat Freaks.



Still no sigthing of Enclave, BOS or Power Armor. Shocks.

Modifié par jsachun, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:24 .

[Loerwyn]

Wahey, Wendy the Welder is back!

[ModerateOsprey]

I only picked up FO3 a month ago and haven't put it down since. Love it. Can't wait for Vegas.

[Rubbish Hero]

I think when you see the game engine with mods installed it starts to give you an idea of just how good the game could, look.






















It seems aside from the graphics themself, the overall presentation for Oblivion, Fallout 3 and it seems Vegas, are just plain bad.

[Loerwyn]

The day Bethesda make a non-crippled-by-bugs game is the day flies learn to do ballet.

Yes, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are playable without mods, but when huge unofficial patches are right at the top of the "recommended/must-have mods" list, you know something is veeeeeryyyyy wrong. I do have faith that Obsidian will release a better game, though.

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:30 .

[jsachun]

Actually I think the game engine and graphics are all part of the way Fallout should be presented. It'll probably be easier on the eye with brigther colours & better looking cast, but it just doesn't fit in to the theme of retro 1950s & 60s.

[jsachun]

Check this E3 trailer out. Loving it.

Modifié par jsachun, 16 août 2010 - 09:37 .