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[vhatever]

Do you have a link demonstrating this incredible hate-on for a PS3 port, or do you always imagine yourself being persecuted?

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Hopefully we'll get an announcement for ME1 & ME2 on PS3 at this year's E3.



But hey, if Bioware doesn't want another $59.99 from me, then that's their business...

[MorseDenizen]

slimgrin wrote...

Why can't you all just put your petty console concerns aside and join with the pc master race?

Its painful at first, but once you've been inculcated...ahhh, the bliss.

2 Reasons,
1. Not all games work 100% for pc (tried playing something like Tekken and pull off a combo?)
2. Not everyone, (in fact very few) are intereested/can be arsed/know/can afford what is involved in having a pc.
from HW upgrades, to benchmarking, software compatibility, driver updates.

I am a PC owner and known to have a bug up my arse when it comes to my pc (I spend ****loads on it) and I'm happy to, but that doesn't mean everyone has my perspective. That said, as a ps3 owner and PC owner, I have Dragon Age on PC (only way to go with RPG's IMO), and wouldnt have got ME1 & ME2 for PS3 if they were available, I feel they fit better on PC, they could well work vise versa too but I'm a bit of a traditionalist with the RPG genre.

But the "PC Uber Alles" is as wrong as the "consoles are the end of PC" quotes I've heard over the years. Its about perspective and gameplay; most genres (apart from FPS, RGP and Strategy) rarely fare wel on PC, and a (well rigged) controller layout has the advantage over keyboard and mouse layout in terms of speed and button accessibility (think Tekken, GT3, 4, 5, Need for speed etc, they work better with a controller than a keyboard even on PC)

[MorseDenizen]

Rendar666 wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

Brako Shepard wrote...

I prefer console gaming as it has a solid base. With PC gaming you never know if the next game you want to play is going to cost you hundreds of pounds to update your hardwarde to play a £25-30 game.

Plus I hate using keyboards and the mouse to control games lol.

Thank you for failing beyond the descriptive ability of words.

How is that a fail? That's a fact. Who wants to pay such a massive amount to update your PC for the next lineup of games? The console lasts for 5-7 years without any upgrades. Who cares about the graphics? Are you guys still actually caring about graphics? I spent half of the day yesterday playing Final Fantasy VIII on PS 1. Seriously. Graphics... whatever. REAL GAMERS don't care what the graphics are like. They game because it's fun and immersive and all that. Graphics add to immersion, sure. But they don't make or break a game.

You can get pretty damn good GPU's for less than "hundreds of pounds" and it's not just about them. BTW your dislike of keyboard and mouse is your weakest of a weak argument. Get some facts mate, I'm not criticising you but you should look more carefully and learn a bit more about pc gaming before you make statements alluding to price, other than that I can fully respect and appreciate your preference to consoles.

I want to pay amounts for my pc "just to play a [insert pricetag here] game", quite simply because some games are better suited to the PC platform, and its not just about graphics...

Still my two cents on your graphics argument:
I care about the graphics, its not 1992 or 1998 or 2000 anymore mate, and I often wondered over the years what baldur's gate and fallout series might have been like using the Unreal, Aurora, or Electron, hell even the Crytek engine. Graphics (while some dismiss them) add an all important extra dimension to gaming, the visual experience. Otherwise there'd be no reason for nvidia or ati to make new ones, no one would care about the Playstations or XBoxes, or Sega Saturns etc, and we would all have been happy to play stuff like guild of thieves on the Atari ST or the text based Hobbit. Yes bad graphics break a game, just like good graphics can immerse you in another world. There's a huge number of examples out there all you need to do is look.

[Beocat]

Expanding into another console base would increase the population playing it...but many PS3 owners also own a 360 (and vice versa), whether they like admitting it or not. I think it will stay exclusive because most people will own both consoles after a few years of playing one. The population wouldn't expand that much and there is a cost to porting games over, which may not be a successful port.



I'm just glad they have the time to focus on making a great game on one console rather than trying to figure out just how to make it work on both which usually ends in sacrifice for one or more features on the original. It really has nothing to do with fandom, just common sense.

[Rendar666]

MorseDenizen wrote...

Still my two cents on your graphics argument:
I care about the graphics, its not 1992 or 1998 or 2000 anymore mate, and I often wondered over the years what baldur's gate and fallout series might have been like using the Unreal, Aurora, or Electron, hell even the Crytek engine. Graphics (while some dismiss them) add an all important extra dimension to gaming, the visual experience. Otherwise there'd be no reason for nvidia or ati to make new ones, no one would care about the Playstations or XBoxes, or Sega Saturns etc, and we would all have been happy to play stuff like guild of thieves on the Atari ST or the text based Hobbit. Yes bad graphics break a game, just like good graphics can immerse you in another world. There's a huge number of examples out there all you need to do is look.

Wait....

Yes bad graphics break a game, just like good graphics can immerse you in another world.

Are you Serious? Seriously serious? I've been playing PS1 games for the past week and they're just as good as the day I freaking bought them. What are you talking about, man (girl?) So... you're saying that you didn't, or don't, play PS1-PS2, everything 'cept new gen. consoles because the graphics are bad? Wow, whatever. Nothing more to say. Most gamer (well those like me), those like myself who play games because of story, gameplay, etc. not graphics, disagree. Did you know that a texted based zombie game has over a million members? Freaking Java-based Runescape has over 10 million players. lol. Whatever. Done.

END OF LINE.

[daliomm]

Cascadus wrote...

Isn't that just old boxart back when ME1 was a 360 exclusive?

look who is the fan boy ps3 user look its an 360 only title just like the exclusuive you have on the ps3.th ps3 is the worst console ever so keep dreaming fan boy no mass effect for ps3.

[KalosCast]

People are against it because almost every 360 owner has to be militantly anti-PS3 to defend their choice of a console that's made up of nothing but hardware failures and a scam of an online service.

[Rendar666]

KalosCast wrote...

People are against it because almost every 360 owner has to be militantly anti-PS3 to defend their choice of a console that's made up of nothing but hardware failures and a scam of an online service.

Well, at least the 360's "scam of an online service" is worth being scammed when the PSN isn't worth being payed to use.

Lol. Nahh, but in all honesty, I think the PSN is terrible and XBL is great. Whatever.


Once again, "to each his own," as some guy said a long time ago.

[KalosCast]

Rendar666 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

People are against it because almost every 360 owner has to be militantly anti-PS3 to defend their choice of a console that's made up of nothing but hardware failures and a scam of an online service.

Well, at least the 360's "scam of an online service" is worth being scammed when the PSN isn't worth being payed to use.

Lol. Nahh, but in all honesty, I think the PSN is terrible and XBL is great. Whatever.


Once again, "to each his own," as some guy said a long time ago.

Yeah, who would ever want to play on dedicated servers (that is, hardware specifically designed for hosting your game) for free when you could pay Microsoft to use YOUR connection that you maintain and host games on YOUR console that you bought to play the games YOU already paid for?

[cepapoe]

daliomm wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

Isn't that just old boxart back when ME1 was a 360 exclusive?

look who is the fan boy ps3 user look its an 360 only title just like the exclusuive you have on the ps3.th ps3 is the worst console ever so keep dreaming fan boy no mass effect for ps3.

Worst console ever? Wow, what an hyperbole. I don't even own a console and know that is bull. Just watch The Angry Video Game Nerd's reviews of some of the older consoles, you will see some really craptastic consoles.

I own it on pc, and prefer pc gaming. I have nothing wrong with it coming out on more platforms as long as it doesn't take away from the experience others are having. Ports will not take away from other's experiences of Mass Effect and only serve to allow more people to experience a great series of games.

[MorseDenizen]

Rendar666 wrote...

MorseDenizen wrote...

Still
my two cents on your graphics argument:
I care about the graphics,
its not 1992 or 1998 or 2000 anymore mate, and I often wondered over the
years what baldur's gate and fallout series might have been like using
the Unreal, Aurora, or Electron, hell even the Crytek engine. Graphics
(while some dismiss them) add an all important extra dimension to
gaming, the visual experience. Otherwise there'd be no reason for nvidia
or ati to make new ones, no one would care about the Playstations or
XBoxes, or Sega Saturns etc, and we would all have been happy to play
stuff like guild of thieves on the Atari ST or the text based Hobbit.
Yes bad graphics break a game, just like good graphics can immerse you
in another world. There's a huge number of examples out there all you
need to do is look.

Wait....

Yes
bad graphics break a game, just like good graphics can immerse you in
another world.

Are you Serious? Seriously
serious? I've been playing PS1 games for the past week and they're just
as good as the day I freaking bought them. What are you talking about,
man (girl?)
1. So... you're saying that you didn't, or don't, play
PS1-PS2, everything 'cept new gen. consoles because the graphics are
bad? Wow, whatever. Nothing more to say.
2. Most gamer (well those
like me), those like myself who play games because of story, gameplay,
etc. not graphics, disagree. Did you know that a texted based zombie
game has over a million members? Freaking Java-based Runescape has over
10 million players. lol. Whatever. Done.

END OF LINE.

First
of all I simply stated my opinion there's no need to be agressive or
rude, secondly I'm not actually a girl (not that it  has any impact on
this argument)
I'm not saying anything of the sort actually,
you seem to be getting a little bit ahead of yourself and overly
agressive, I actually still own both a PS1 and a PS2 and a SNES (Still
Play SFII FYI), and i still enjoy games like Rollcage, MGS, Driver I & II and God of War i
& II, the Jak & Daxter
series, MGS2, Tekken Tag, 4 & 5 among
others, I'm not talking about old school previous generation graphics
(I have seen more than a few gens in my time) I'm talking about bad
and good graphics, bland repetitive badly textured, lack of
shadows and lighting, bad rigging and worse animation, a bad visual
experience, and well conceived, lit and executed graphics that really
give that bit extra to your gameplay.
2. I have no argument there, if
my ST was still around I would still be
playing Guild of Thieves, I also play a lot of DA:Journeys for example
(where time permits that is)

Please, try to be more objective and
look at my point of view more carefully, I agree with you partly, in
tha while graphics are not the A and Ω of a game, they often play a big
role in a game and are not to be dismissed, as I said they add an extra
dimension, there are quite a few examples of games that were suffereddue
to bad visual sdevelopment, and others so seamless you couldnt tell
cutscene from gameplay. Can you enjoy a text based Doom or other FPS as
much as you can on a good resolution screen? I doubt it, but if you can
tie graphics, sound, story and gameplay together well, you have a real
winner. Graphics are the extra bonus or cherry on the cake not the
basis, everything starts out on paper.

Dismissal of graphics cant be the same across the board, there are a number of
game genres that benefit and/or depend on a good graphics engine.

In any case our argument has gone rather off topic, it was good to exchange views with you mate, I agree with you but I also disagree.

Modifié par MorseDenizen, 01 mai 2010 - 11:06 .

[CherryColaLola]

Dragon Slayed wrote...

CherryColaLola wrote...

PS 3 sucks so bad that Sony doesn't deserve to get Biowares goodies.  It would be a great insult to see Mass Effect on a PS 3, I wil not stand for it! 

Here's a little song...

*sings, mostly in key*

"Step one, you make your console cost the most,
You beat your chest and proudly boast,
despite no good and exquisite games,
make a bunch of ridiculous claims,

Then ignore our need to play online,
don't make it fun like XBox Live,
Use Blu Ray which I don't need,
Now your getting your **** kicked by the Wii,

Said Halo 3 don't worry you,
Instead you offer Kill Zone 2,
But Kill ZOne 1, sucked before,
So what made you think we wanted more?

Sony you went wrong with your PS 3,
I'll just keep playing my 360,
hope this song has helped you understand,
Now you know how you killed your brand,

*takes a bow*

Wow you are like the biggest fan boy?girl i have ever seen. I mean ive got nothing against xbox in fact i sometimes wish i had a different system but they both have their ups and downs and your presious 360 isnt as perfect as you make it out to be.

Consoles are for gamers that can't turn on a computer. 

[TJSolo]

cepapoe wrote...

daliomm wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

Isn't that just old boxart back when ME1 was a 360 exclusive?

look who is the fan boy ps3 user look its an 360 only title just like the exclusuive you have on the ps3.th ps3 is the worst console ever so keep dreaming fan boy no mass effect for ps3.

Worst console ever? Wow, what an hyperbole. I don't even own a console and know that is bull. Just watch The Angry Video Game Nerd's reviews of some of the older consoles, you will see some really craptastic consoles.

I own it on pc, and prefer pc gaming. I have nothing wrong with it coming out on more platforms as long as it doesn't take away from the experience others are having. Ports will not take away from other's experiences of Mass Effect and only serve to allow more people to experience a great series of games.

Wouldn't a website reviewing past video game consoles now be affected by hindsight bias? 20 year old games being reviewed now, with the intention of creating bad reviews. Pass, I will not ruin my childhood nostalgia by rating games using todays tech.

[digoutyoursoul]

fanboys - absolute pain of the gaming community. never understood the logic of being totally loyal to a piece of plastic and then have the cheek to take the moral high ground when it comes to a debate? if it comes to ps3 its not big deal at all for the simple fact you will still be able to play it yourself.

[TJSolo]

digoutyoursoul wrote...

fanboys - absolute pain of the gaming community. never understood the logic of being totally loyal to a piece of plastic and then have the cheek to take the moral high ground when it comes to a debate? if it comes to ps3 its not big deal at all for the simple fact you will still be able to play it yourself.

What is hard to get? The console makers feed that idea into the head of each of their prospective buyers. They are all aiming to be bought, it is not like every gamer has the time and/or money to buy all the home consoles on the market. You will have people defending their purchases buy stating why they brought that console over the other.
Things like exclusives are strong reasons to want one console over another, the loss of exclusives lessens the reasons a person can advocate a console.

[digoutyoursoul]

TJSolo wrote...

digoutyoursoul wrote...

fanboys - absolute pain of the gaming community. never understood the logic of being totally loyal to a piece of plastic and then have the cheek to take the moral high ground when it comes to a debate? if it comes to ps3 its not big deal at all for the simple fact you will still be able to play it yourself.

What is hard to get? The console makers feed that idea into the head of each of their prospective buyers. They are all aiming to be bought, it is not like every gamer has the time and/or money to buy all the home consoles on the market. You will have people defending their purchases buy stating why they brought that console over the other.
Things like exclusives are strong reasons to want one console over another, the loss of exclusives lessens the reasons a person can advocate a console.

oh so you are sort of justifying it are you? the endless trolls, the bias by judging a game not as a game but by the console its on? c'mon man

"it is not like every gamer has the time and/or money to buy all the home
consoles"

well i am aware of this, its not rocket science is it?

"the loss of exclusives lessens the reasons a person can advocate a
console"

who gives a **** what some faceless person on the internet buys? if you can play mass effect on the console you own whats the problem? nothing, play the game and enjoy it. i'm sorry but there is no excuse for being insecure over a piece of gaming equipment. there are far more important things to worry about in life.

[Aanorith]

I don't know I missed some kind of hate wave or something but I am totally unfamiliar with 360 owners not wanting Mass effect to spread. Seriously.

[Icinix]

digoutyoursoul wrote...
(snip).... there are far more important things to worry about in life.

Bull****. 

[digoutyoursoul]

Icinix wrote...

digoutyoursoul wrote...
(snip).... there are far more important things to worry about in life.

Bull****. 

ha ha

[TJSolo]

digoutyoursoul wrote...
oh so you are sort of justifying it are you? the endless trolls, the bias by judging a game not as a game but by the console its on? c'mon man

"it is not like every gamer has the time and/or money to buy all the home
consoles"

well i am aware of this, its not rocket science is it?

"the loss of exclusives lessens the reasons a person can advocate a
console"

who gives a **** what some faceless person on the internet buys? if you can play mass effect on the console you own whats the problem? nothing, play the game and enjoy it. i'm sorry but there is no excuse for being insecure over a piece of gaming equipment. there are far more important things to worry about in life.

I am saying why people advocate and support their chosen consoles. You can ask people why they bought a console over another and they will eventually start spouting of things from the feature list on that companies respective website. Among the features list is a statement assuring fans of that console will get exclusive games not available on other consoles. Not trolling and justifying. You can go to the PS3, Wii, and 360 websites and "exclusive" games will be mentioned.

Modifié par TJSolo, 01 mai 2010 - 03:27 .

[digoutyoursoul]

TJSolo wrote...

digoutyoursoul wrote...
oh so you are sort of justifying it are you? the endless trolls, the bias by judging a game not as a game but by the console its on? c'mon man

"it is not like every gamer has the time and/or money to buy all the home
consoles"

well i am aware of this, its not rocket science is it?

"the loss of exclusives lessens the reasons a person can advocate a
console"

who gives a **** what some faceless person on the internet buys? if you can play mass effect on the console you own whats the problem? nothing, play the game and enjoy it. i'm sorry but there is no excuse for being insecure over a piece of gaming equipment. there are far more important things to worry about in life.

I am saying why people advocate and support their chosen consoles. You can ask people why they bought a console over another and they will eventually start spouting of things from the feature list on that companies respective website. Among the features list is a statement assuring fans of that console will get exclusive games not available on other consoles. Not trolling and justifying. You can go to the PS3, Wii, and 360 websites and "exclusive" games will be on the front page.

yeah i've got no problem with someone liking one console over the other, thats normal but i think you're not getting what my point is, the fanboys, not regular normal gamers who play whatever. you seen the likes of n4g.com at its worst and i dont want biowares forums being like that, fans are normal - fanboys are not.

[TJSolo]

digoutyoursoul wrote...

yeah i've got no problem with someone liking one console over the other, thats normal but i think you're not getting what my point is, the fanboys, not regular normal gamers who play whatever. you seen the likes of n4g.com at its worst and i dont want biowares forums being like that, fans are normal - fanboys are not.

Wanting the 360 to lose an exclusive to the PS3 is a fanish thing as well. I recall the E3 bombshell that was FFxiii coming to the XBOX with a simultaneous launch. PS3s fans were pissed and 360 fans were just rubbing it in their faces, even if they didn't want to play FFxiii.
Console Fan issues aside.

ME1 is owned be M$ even if EA Bioware could somehow get ME2 or 3 on PS3, there is no chance in hell they would be able to get ME1. Leaving PS3s gamers with a partial trilogy. Just because some people decided to start the ME trilogy at ME2 doesn't mean everyone wants to, at least 360/PC players had a choice of getting ME1.