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Do you think gaming should be considered a sport?


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Look at where sports originated, Ancient Greece. 


It's likely that sports have existed far longer than recorded history...But, you're still wrong. The first recorded instances of humans partaking in organized sporting events come from China.


My underlying point still stands as does the contemporary definition of athletics as I posted earlier.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

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Bowling is a sport I would agree.


Oh I see, so you just cherry-pick the "sports" you like even though bowling doesn't fit with the Greek definition.

F*** off


I'm not saying that the only real sports were the one's practiced in Ancient Greece.  However, athletics do all share common traits such as requiring their participants to skill derived from physical attributes such as strength, endurance, and agility.
This is not my definition.  If you dissagree with it, you shouldn't take it up with me.

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Again: hand eye coordination isn't a physical attribute?

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Dethateer wrote...

Again: hand eye coordination isn't a physical attribute?


There is limited movement involved but it is more of a mental attribute than a physical one.  It's still a sedentary activity.
There are many sports that require good hand eye coordination such as boxing but there is a physical factor involved as well which gaming lacks.

Modifié par Busomjack, 27 avril 2010 - 02:14 .


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Busomjack wrote...

I'm not saying that the only real sports were the one's practiced in Ancient Greece.  However, athletics do all share common traits such as requiring their participants to skill derived from physical attributes such as strength, endurance, and agility.
This is not my definition.  If you dissagree with it, you shouldn't take it up with me.


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Yeah, he looks like an athlete to me.

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Busomjack wrote...

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It should be called whatever someone wants to call it.


Exactly, just like the "Should games be considered art" thread, it all boils down to semantics, it doesn't matter what you call it,  the word may assist in conjuring up a speculation in an ignorant person's mind, but the word itself is not going to change it.

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Art is so loosely defined that just about anything is considered art these days.  Athletics on the other hand is not so subjective.  The definition of an athlete is pretty concrete and being a good gamer does not make you an athlete at all.


So to which are you referring, "athletics" or "sport", because the topic title seems to say sport, they are two words with different meanings. A sport requires skill OR physical prowess, while athletics require physical skill AND stamina.

Hunting is considered a sport by the dictionary and Fishing is considered a sport by the dictionary.

Modifié par The Grey Spectre, 27 avril 2010 - 02:17 .


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Busomjack wrote...

There is limited movement involved but it is more of a mental attribute than a physical one.  It's still a sedentary activity.
There are many sports that require good hand eye coordination such as boxing but there is a physical factor involved as well which gaming lacks.


And there isn't limited movement involved in bowling?  Most of the time is spent sitting down and drinking beer when you bowl FFS.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 27 avril 2010 - 02:16 .


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ImperialOperative wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I'm not saying that the only real sports were the one's practiced in Ancient Greece.  However, athletics do all share common traits such as requiring their participants to skill derived from physical attributes such as strength, endurance, and agility.
This is not my definition.  If you dissagree with it, you shouldn't take it up with me.


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Yeah, he looks like an athlete to me.


Bowling doesn't require as much physical prowess as other sports hence why you see some fat athletes but it is still a physical activity that requires at least some strength.  Therefore it qualifies as a sport if just barely.
There are a of sports that involve periodic resting.  Body building is an example.  Not all sports are aerobically challenging.

Modifié par Busomjack, 27 avril 2010 - 02:17 .


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Busomjack wrote...

Bowling doesn't require as much physical prowess as other sports hence why you see some fat athletes but it is still a physical activity that requires at least some strength.  Therefore it qualifies as a sport if just barely.


OK, I'll make sure to qualify fat bowlers as equal as athletes such as yourself.

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The Grey Spectre wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

The Grey Spectre wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

It should be called whatever someone wants to call it.


Exactly, just like the "Should games be considered art" thread, it all boils down to semantics, it doesn't matter what you call it,  the word may assist in conjuring up a speculation in an ignorant person's mind, but the word itself is not going to change it.

and with that
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Art is so loosely defined that just about anything is considered art these days.  Athletics on the other hand is not so subjective.  The definition of an athlete is pretty concrete and being a good gamer does not make you an athlete at all.


So to which are you referring, "athletics" or "sport", because the topic title seems to say sport, they are two words with different meanings. A sport requires skill OR physical prowess, while athletics require physical skill AND stamina.

Hunting is considered a sport by the dictionary and Fishing is considered a sport by the dictionary.



Athletics is a word which refers to sports in general.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics

Hunting is definetly a sport unless it is a caged hunt where some cowardly scum shoots an animal in a cage.  Hunting in the woods for instance requires a lot of movement and survival skills.  It's definetly not a sedentary activity.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

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Bowling doesn't require as much physical prowess as other sports hence why you see some fat athletes but it is still a physical activity that requires at least some strength.  Therefore it qualifies as a sport if just barely.


OK, I'll make sure to qualify fat bowlers as equal as athletes such as yourself.


As fat as that guy is, I'm willing to bet he has far greater forearm and deltoid strength than your average sedentary person.

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As fat as that guy is, I'm willing to bet he has far greater forearm and deltoid strength than your average sedentary person.


And I'm sure he gets winded after walking up 4 steps of stairs.

WOW WHAT AN ATHLETE

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 27 avril 2010 - 02:26 .


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Oh, now you're using wikipedia as reference, *facepalm*. Hunting today usually involves a person driving their ATV to a tree fort, sitting, waiting, aiming, and shooting, then driving home.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

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As fat as that guy is, I'm willing to bet he has far greater forearm and deltoid strength than your average sedentary person.


And I'm sure he gets winded after walking up 4 steps of stairs.

WOW WHAT AN ATHLETE


He's still much more of an athlete than a gamer.  Bowling may not be like competitive swimming but it is still a physical activity.

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Busomjack wrote...

He's still much more of an athlete than a gamer.  Bowling may not be like competitive swimming but it is still a physical activity.


Yeah bro, bowlers go through so much to do what they do.  They have to sit down in those little bowling chairs and drink beer while they wait to walk 5 feet, pick up a 15 lb ball, and swing their arm once while they walk another 5-10 feet.

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Art form, yes. Sport, no. A proper sport is a test of physical abilities, or a combination of physical and mental abilities. But the physical part of a sport is a necessity. Gaming certainly does not fit this category, unless you go jogging while playing your Wii.

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[quote]Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Art form, yes.quote]

lolwut

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 27 avril 2010 - 02:32 .


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The Grey Spectre wrote...

Oh, now you're using wikipedia as reference, *facepalm*. Hunting today usually involves a person driving their ATV to a tree fort, sitting, waiting, aiming, and shooting, then driving home.


Ok, what makes you more qualified than Wikipedia then?
When I was in junior high the school referred to physical education as the sports department, when I was in high school it was called the athletics department even though all of the sports were the same(football, lacrosse, track etc.) except for older students.  Same word, same meaning.
As I explained, hunting is a sport under certain conditions.  If it involves physical activity it's a sport, if not, then it's not.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Art form, yes. Sport, no. A proper sport is a test of physical abilities, or a combination of physical and mental abilities. But the physical part of a sport is a necessity. Gaming certainly does not fit this category, unless you go jogging while playing your Wii.


Finally, someone smart enough to agree with me.

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The fact that anyone can edit wikipedia and, generally, it's utterly useless unless you plan on getting a school paper or something from it.

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Busomjack wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Art form, yes. Sport, no. A proper sport is a test of physical abilities, or a combination of physical and mental abilities. But the physical part of a sport is a necessity. Gaming certainly does not fit this category, unless you go jogging while playing your Wii.


Finally, someone smart enough to agree with me.


Anybody who agrees with Busomjack could never be considered "smart."

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Busomjack wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Art form, yes. Sport, no. A proper sport is a test of physical abilities, or a combination of physical and mental abilities. But the physical part of a sport is a necessity. Gaming certainly does not fit this category, unless you go jogging while playing your Wii.


Finally, someone smart enough to agree with me.


Hear that kids? Agree with Emperor Egohumongus and you're smart!

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Dethateer wrote...

The fact that anyone can edit wikipedia and, generally, it's utterly useless unless you plan on getting a school paper or something from it.


lolwut?

Wait so wikipedia is useless UNLESS it's for academics?

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 27 avril 2010 - 02:34 .


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Now you're adding conditions. We could debate semantics and terminology all f*cking month, and it will never make a difference.

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[quote]ImperialOperative wrote...

[quote]Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Art form, yes.quote]

lolwut[/quote]

The creation and running of gaming. It is an art form, much like the creation of movies or books. It is a form of interactive entertainment and expression.