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Do you think gaming should be considered a sport?

Débuté par Busomjack , avril 27 2010 11:42

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 02:57

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Cascadus wrote...

Like it or not, video-gaming is a sport now. Technically called an 'e-sport', actually. It's already happening, and it's already swept Korea. StarCraft's swept the country there. There are entire channels devoted to airing it, professional teams, sponsorships, events and money are all commonplace there. They aren't kidding when they see it's the biggest sport in the region. Then we've got the World Cyber Games and a large array of other events.
An athlete is commonly defined as not someone who is good at physical activity, but good at a sport. That's how dart throwers can be called athletes, and that's how video gamers can be called them too.


They can call it an "e-sport" if they want but it is still a fallacious misnomer.
It's kind of like how MTV still calls itself a music channel even though all they have are reality TV shows.

An athlete is defined as..

http://www.thefreedi...ary.com/athlete

"A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength,
agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or
sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts."

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:03

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If you actually read the definition of SPORT you would see that clearly it doesn't require physical activity...it can simply be a diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

What you might consider to be a sport could be completely different than the true definition of the word.

I wouldn't confuse Athletics with sports because the two are different.


 ath·let·ics Image IPB
n.  

(used with a sing. or pl. verb)

  • Activities, such as sports, exercises, and games, that require physical skill and stamina.




Now I guess we have to define  physical skill


 physical- of or relating to the body


Skill- the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well



Okay now that we have all the definitions we can make a clear call




It seems if we use the vaguest terms we can to define spots

Sports are Competitions in which  body or parts there of is used to do something well.

So in that sense a gaming competition is a sport as is as would be sport.



Okay I'm done now.B) 

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:11

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Athletics/sports require more than skill. They require skill derived from strength, agility, and endurance.

Playing a video game requires none of that.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:14

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not according to dictionary.com





Dictionary.com >Busomjack's narcissistic ego with a god complex.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:17

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Celrath wrote...

not according to dictionary.com


Dictionary.com >Busomjack's narcissistic ego with a god complex.


I posted a more extensive definition earlier which included a thesaurus.  I know it's inspirational for someone who isn't in shape to think he's an athlete because he plays games but lets discard anecdotal evidence here for a moment anf focus on the facts.

You'll notice that nowhere in the Thesarus is gaming mentioned.

http://www.thefreedi...y.com/athletics

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:23

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Celrath wrote...

not according to dictionary.com


Dictionary.com >Busomjack's narcissistic ego with a god complex.


That's a plasma burn.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:23

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Busomjack wrote...

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Now you're adding conditions. We could debate semantics and terminology all f*cking month, and it will never make a difference.


It doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.  If it involves a physical aspect, it's a sport.  If not, it's not.  Nothing I have said has contradicted this basic, commonly defined principle which applies to all athletics.
Gaming is sedentary and thus not a sport.


So if I walk to the kitchen to get some water and then return to my game, will that fill your "conditions" for hunting, which you claimed to require movement in order to be a sport.


No because a sport needs to involve some sort of challenge and/or obstacle to overcome.


I see that you reference the dictionary only when it suits you, it when it doesn't you offer your own personal definition.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:23

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AAAAAAAH TO MANY WORDS *jumps out window*

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:26

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The Grey Spectre wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

The Grey Spectre wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

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Now you're adding conditions. We could debate semantics and terminology all f*cking month, and it will never make a difference.


It doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.  If it involves a physical aspect, it's a sport.  If not, it's not.  Nothing I have said has contradicted this basic, commonly defined principle which applies to all athletics.
Gaming is sedentary and thus not a sport.


So if I walk to the kitchen to get some water and then return to my game, will that fill your "conditions" for hunting, which you claimed to require movement in order to be a sport.


No because a sport needs to involve some sort of challenge and/or obstacle to overcome.


I see that you reference the dictionary only when it suits you, it when it doesn't you offer your own personal definition.


I didn't incorporate my own definition, you just over-simplified it.  Moving in and by itself does not constitute a sporting event. 
A sport is a competitive event that involves physical activity.  The word "competition" should be enough to tell you that there is some goal or challenge involved without it having to be explained explicitly.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:28

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Busomjack, Queen Hepsibeth the 7th of Prussia & The Outlying Lands wants you back on the Cloud Base.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:29

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Busomjack wrote...

The Grey Spectre wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

The Grey Spectre wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

The Grey Spectre wrote...

Now you're adding conditions. We could debate semantics and terminology all f*cking month, and it will never make a difference.


It doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.  If it involves a physical aspect, it's a sport.  If not, it's not.  Nothing I have said has contradicted this basic, commonly defined principle which applies to all athletics.
Gaming is sedentary and thus not a sport.


So if I walk to the kitchen to get some water and then return to my game, will that fill your "conditions" for hunting, which you claimed to require movement in order to be a sport.


No because a sport needs to involve some sort of challenge and/or obstacle to overcome.


I see that you reference the dictionary only when it suits you, it when it doesn't you offer your own personal definition.


I didn't incorporate my own definition, you just over-simplified it.  Moving in and by itself does not constitute a sporting event. 
A sport is a competitive event that involves physical activity.  The word "competition" should be enough to tell you that there is some goal or challenge involved without it having to be explained explicitly.


Competition, Challenge, Skill requirement. Isn't that where the game comes in.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:30

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Sure, but there has to be a physical aspect to it as well. Gaming is a sedentary activity and thus not a sport.

Look, it's been a fun discussion but I don't think I'm going to get much more out of it.  

Goodbye.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:32

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As I said, walking to get a glass of water, ♫burnin calories♫ lol

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:33

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not according to dictionary.com


Dictionary.com >Busomjack's narcissistic ego with a god complex.


I posted a more extensive definition earlier which included a thesaurus.  I know it's inspirational for someone who isn't in shape such as yourself to think he's an athlete because he plays games but lets discard anecdotal evidence here for a moment anf focus on the facts.

You'll notice that nowhere in the Thesarus is gaming mentioned.

http://www.thefreedi...y.com/athletics

Activities, such as sports, exercises, and games, that
require physical skill and stamina.2.
The principles or system of training and practice for such activities.The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All
rights reserved.athletics [æθˈlɛtɪks]n (functioning as plural
or singular)1. (Individual Sports &
Recreations / Athletics (Track & Field))a. 
track and field eventsb.  (as
modifier) an athletics meeting2. (Individual Sports & Recreations /
Athletics (Track & Field)) sports or exercises engaged in by
athletes3. (Individual Sports &
Recreations / Athletics (Track & Field)) the theory or practice of
athletic activities and trainingCollins
English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins
Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003AthleticsSee
also acrobatics;
boxing; games; recreation.
aerobicsa form of physical activity characterized by
strenuous exercise of many muscle groups and intended to increase muscle
tone and cardiovascular fitness. — aerobic, adj.agonistone who contends for a prize in public games. — agonistic,
agonistical, adj.agonisticsthe art of athletic combat or contests in public
games.aquaticsthe art and exercise of water sports.athleticism1. an active interest in sports.
2. an
obsessive participation in physical activity. — athletic, adj.calisthenicsthe science, art, or practice of bodily exercises
intended to promote strength, health, and grace of movement. — calisthenic,
calisthenical, adj.contortionista person who performs gymnastic feats involving
distorted postures. — contortionistic, adj.decathlonan athletic contest in which the contestants compete
for points awarded for performances in ten different track and field
events, the winner being the one with the highest aggregate score. The
events include 100-meter, 400-meter, and 1500-meter runs, 110-meter high
hurdles, long jump, high jump, pole vault, shot-put, javelin throw, and
discus throw. Cf. heptathlon, pentathlon, triathlon.discobolus1. a discus thrower.
2. cap.,
italics. the famous 5th-century B.C. statue by Myron of a discus
thrower.gymnasiasta gymnast. See also learning.gymnasta person who is involved in or skilled in the art of
gymnastics.gymnastics1. regimented exercises performed on floor mats
and on certain specialized equipment that entail the skills of tumbling
and balancing and that are intended to display flexibility, grace, and
strength.
2. physical or athletic exercises; calisthenics. — gymnastic,
adj.heptathlonan athletic competition in which contestants compete
for points awarded for performances in seven different track and field
events, the winner being the one with the highest aggregate score. The
competition, usually for women, consists of 100-meter and 800-meter
runs, 100-meter hurdles, high jump, long jump, javelin throw, and
shot-put. Cf. decathlon, pentathlon, triathlon.isometricsa form of physical exercise in which a set of muscles
is tensed briefly, either in opposition to another set or against a
solid surface. Cf. isotonics. — isometric, adj.isotonicsmuscular exercise using free weights or fixed devices
to simulate resistance of weight. Cf. isometrics. — isotonic,
adj.lampadedromyAncient Greece. a race in honor of Prometheus
in which the contestants ran bearing lit torches, the winner being the
first to finish with his torch still lit. Also called lampadrome,
lampadephoria.lampadista contestant in a lampadedromy. Also called lampadephore,
lampadophoros.natationthe act or art of swimming or floating on water. — natatory,
— natatorial, adj.natatora swimmer.natatoriuma swimming pool, particularly an indoor facility.palaestra,
palestraAncient Greece. a public place for athletics
or wrestling. — palaestric, palestric, adj.pancratiasta person skilled in the art of boxing or wrestling. —
pancratiastic, adj.pentathlon1. Track and Field, an athletic contest
in which the contestants compete for points awarded for performances in
five different track and field contests, the winner being the one with
the highest aggregate score. The events include, for women, an 800-meter
run, 100-meter hurdles, high jump, long jump, and shot-put; for men,
200-meter and 1500-meter runs, long jump, javelin throw, and discus
throw.
2. Olympic Games. Usually, modern pentathlon
an athletic contest in which the contestants compete for points awarded
for performances in five events: fencing, horseback riding, pistol
shooting, cross-country running, and swimming.quinquennaliaAncient Rome. public games that took place
every five years.titlista champion or one who holds a title.trampolinista person who performs feats of tumbling using a
trampoline as a springboard. Also trampoliner. — trampoline,
n.triathlonan intense aerobic endurance competition, typically,
in its longest form, consisting of a 2.4-mile ocean swim, a 112-mile
bicycle ride, and a 26.2-mile marathon run, the winner being the one to
finish all three events in the least time.


Bringing up the
same point over and over again doesn't make it anymore valid.  The root definition
you show is the same one we dissected to come up with the answer. Just because something
is not on a list doesn't mean it doesn't fit into said list  


You asked for an answer you got one. Now I think this should be lock because at this point you are clear just trolling.   

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Busomjack wrote...

Sure, but there has to be a physical aspect to it as well. Gaming is a sedentary activity and thus not a sport.

Look, it's been a fun discussion but I don't think I'm going to get much more out of it.  

Goodbye.




Did we just win?

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:34

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As I said, walking to get a glass of water, ♫burnin calories♫ lol


Only on the internet will you hear people compare getting a glass of water to cycling, football, and boxing.

Kind of like how every high school girl is really a cop. 

Ok, seriously I've got things to do.  Goodbye.

"Did we just win"

Yep, you did.  Congrats.  Even though all of the events listed in the Thesarus all have several things in common which are suspciciously lacking from gaming such as requiring superior strength, agility, and endurance which should give you a consensus of what constitutes an actual sport but yeah I concede defeat.

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Celrath wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Sure, but there has to be a physical aspect to it as well. Gaming is a sedentary activity and thus not a sport.

Look, it's been a fun discussion but I don't think I'm going to get much more out of it.  

Goodbye.




Did we just win?

its a busomjack thread, nobody wins...

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randumb vanguard wrote...

Celrath wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Sure, but there has to be a physical aspect to it as well. Gaming is a sedentary activity and thus not a sport.

Look, it's been a fun discussion but I don't think I'm going to get much more out of it.  

Goodbye.




Did we just win?

its a busomjack thread, nobody wins...


Kind of like a randumb vanguard thread.

:RIMSHOT:

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:42

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Celrath wrote...

randumb vanguard wrote...

Celrath wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Sure, but there has to be a physical aspect to it as well. Gaming is a sedentary activity and thus not a sport.

Look, it's been a fun discussion but I don't think I'm going to get much more out of it.  

Goodbye.




Did we just win?

its a busomjack thread, nobody wins...


Kind of like a randumb vanguard thread.

:RIMSHOT:

its either nobody wins or everybody wins... its a gamble going to one of my threads.

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:44

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Busomjack wrote...

Athletics/sports require more than skill. They require skill derived from strength, agility, and endurance.
Playing a video game requires none of that.


Playing video games requires endurance. A LOT of endurance. Professional gamers in Korea often exercise more than 8 - 10 hours a day, 6 days a week.
Even more before a tournament.

That DOES require endurance.


Anyways, competitive gaming = e-Sports.


Discussion closed.:police:

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:45

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You claim to be a master of the human body ,To bad your not a master of the human brain as well . I think you dont really care about this topic one bit . Its a place for you to announce, many times and in many ways, that you are in such great physical shape and nothing more. Just go do some more inclines the more you talk the more it shows your decline in your ability , to think with an open mind .

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:47

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Agreed!

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Posté 27 avril 2010 - 03:52

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I have to dissagree with the original poster. How we define things is linked to our culture and the nature of culture is change whether it be for the better or worse.

What we define as sport in contemporary times does not have to conform with what was considered a sport in times past.

Mental exertion from gaming requires energy expenditure which is at least comparable to some lesser impact sports like Golf. Plus fast reflexes are a factor in almost every sport so I would say that gaming does constitute a sport and that a professional gamer should be considered an athlete.



The original poster is a traditionalist who doesn't like the idea of a whole bunch of new comers giving themselves a title he feels he earned proudly through working out. I can somewhat understand that but he needs to realize the world is not static and if he can't adapt to change he will be left behind.

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Aren't you the one regarded as a busomjack clone?

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Borschtbeet wrote...

I have to dissagree with the original poster. How we define things is linked to our culture and the nature of culture is change whether it be for the better or worse.
What we define as sport in contemporary times does not have to conform with what was considered a sport in times past.
Mental exertion from gaming requires energy expenditure which is at least comparable to some lesser impact sports like Golf. Plus fast reflexes are a factor in almost every sport so I would say that gaming does constitute a sport and that a professional gamer should be considered an athlete.

The original poster is a traditionalist who doesn't like the idea of a whole bunch of new comers giving themselves a title he feels he earned proudly through working out. I can somewhat understand that but he needs to realize the world is not static and if he can't adapt to change he will be left behind.


His name is OP.

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