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[yullyuk]

as the title says, why havnt we received a patch yet fixing the big bugs in awakening its been more than long enough for the dev team to make a patch to fix these issues so what the hell?

[Quels]

I've logged in daily for months now - still waiting for a patch to fix this game.

Bought tons of games with bugs, never bought a game I couldn't play at all before. Never!



I play Mass effect 1 and 2 atm and I have no problems at all which is a bit strange - overall Mass Effect seems very stable, once or twice I thought it would crash but was just a 10-15 seonds hiccup. That's like 60-70 hours without a single crash! I can crash Dragon Age within a minute with Holy Smite and Cleanse Aura. (No settings on my part change this, btw.)



... so, what the hell? :innocent:

[Pentier]

/sign. I hate what they've done with awakening. They rushed it out the door and now refuse to fix it. The worst part is that awakening ruined Origin's reputation as well. I can't think of it without remembering how broken Awakening is.

[Mightyg]

Personally, I'm still waiting for the Origins bugs to be worked out. works even worse with the most recent patch. So yeah even when the patch comes out, don't hold your breath.

[yayrichie]

Guess it's a good thing I just finished Origins, and that my school finals are stalling all potential gaming for the next two weeks. If this patch comes out by then, though, you know what I'll be buying to celebrate end of semester! Not to mention that by birthday is next Thursday

[Funkjoker]

Oh guys, COME ON.



they could release a new patch right in this moment i'm typing this, but guess what? it'll be worse than 1.03! and then? You're gonna start 10 new threads about how 1.04 lacks stability, improvements etc. and demand 1.05 tomorrow??



Give it time!

[gizmert]

Perhaps they should spend less time trying to sell t-shirt and mugs and more time working on a patch

[ShinsFortress]

Or get it right the first time? *blink*

[yullyuk]

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

Oh guys, COME ON.

they could release a new patch right in this moment i'm typing this, but guess what? it'll be worse than 1.03! and then? You're gonna start 10 new threads about how 1.04 lacks stability, improvements etc. and demand 1.05 tomorrow??

Give it time!

even so, its been long enough for the dev team to make up some sort of patch to be worked into the game, origins had a patch in the first fortnight, so why shouldnt this expansion have some of the bugs worked out by now? laziness is what it is, sheer laziness on the devs part, they dont care so long as they earn money, cant say i blame them but i wouldnt just throw out a broken game and pray for the best

[bartoni33]

Games been unplayable for me since launch. Utter disappointment here. First character is stuck at the Landsmeet. Tried making another character but it crashes when you meet Leilana at the Tavern at the beginning of the game. So now I'm waiting (no so) patiently for a patch that will actually fix this game.

[MrCrabby]

When an asbestos cat chases a paper dog through hell is the correct answer I think.



Electronic Arts has a policy of not supporting games after they are released. Corporations speak one language: money. If people are upset then stop buying Electronic Arts games, it's that simple.



I do not buy from EA but made an exception for Bioware since I like their products, but this pathetic disregard for the community and their own products has ensured no more support from me.

[zorp]

Well unfortunally EA's lawers deemed it impossible to charge for patches so it's not part of their strategy. And of cause it was more profitable for Bioware to have theire people working on the "Feastday prank DLC" then on patches.



And now with the new strategy to charge for "Premium pre launch DLC's" (thats demos and trailers to us simple folks) you can't really expect them to waste time on stuff they can't charge for.



And of cause they know that the average gamer has the memory of an ant and that with the right hype they can sell the next game anyhow.....

[Quels]

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

Oh guys, COME ON.

they could release a new patch right in this moment i'm typing this, but guess what? it'll be worse than 1.03! and then? You're gonna start 10 new threads about how 1.04 lacks stability, improvements etc. and demand 1.05 tomorrow??

Give it time!

In my case - as written above - this is the first time I've bought a game I cannot play at all - so no, many of us will not complain if a patch makes an unplayable game playable. If it introduces new bugs or others problems, fine. I have no problem with that, I can live with bugs, leaks etc. but I can't live with a game I cannot play.

Besides the statement is  self contradicting. You say we should give it time and in the same sentence say that the next patch will cause even more errors. 
Try and understand the problem instead. Which is, for many users, an unplayable game and no patch can make that situation worse!

[vometia]

ShinsFortress wrote...

Or get it right the first time? *blink*

It'd be interesting to know what the game would be like had it been released according to Bioware's schedule rather than that of EA's bean-counters.  Unfinished quests finished, QA done properly, bugs fixed, more companion interaction, more connection to Origins.  Maybe we wouldn't have seen all of that, but some would've been nice; sigh...

[adrichardson]

I'm usually the last person to suggest anything like this, but how about a bit of community action? Start posting 1* reviews on Amazon and boycott new DLC until a new patch comes out.



I couldn't believe they put effort into making something as useless as the feast day pack, given the patch issues.



The "gathering technical information" thread is worrying me - if they only started gathering info on 9 April, I'm dubious about us seeing a fix any time soon (if they've even progressed from the "sitting on arse reading thread" stage to the "working out what got screwed up in the last patch" stage).

[ShinsFortress]

I already have started doing that. Not bought any more DLC. Didn't even buy Awakenings at all as I was still fiddling with Origins. 1.03 has annoyed me so much, I have stopped playing the game at all now. I check here occasionally, because I am perversely curious to see wth they're going to do about it.

As a gamer, I have moved on and avoid EA like the plague. In my opinion Bioware/Black Isle/Obsidian have (in the past) made most of the best RPGs. But the apparant lack of support given to DA makes an experience with LucasArts back in the day, seem almost positive.

Modifié par ShinsFortress, 28 avril 2010 - 09:45 .

[Nooneyouknow13]

zorp wrote...

Well unfortunally EA's lawers deemed it impossible to charge for patches so it's not part of their strategy. And of cause it was more profitable for Bioware to have theire people working on the "Feastday prank DLC" then on patches.

And now with the new strategy to charge for "Premium pre launch DLC's" (thats demos and trailers to us simple folks) you can't really expect them to waste time on stuff they can't charge for.

And of cause they know that the average gamer has the memory of an ant and that with the right hype they can sell the next game anyhow.....

Yes, because DLC that takes someone less than 10 minutes with the editor detracts from anything at all. Oh wait, it doesn't.

I finshed Awakening a week after release with no major bugs to be found. A few minor, and very annoying ones, but nothing game breaking at all.  I've hit more gamebreaking bugs as I've tried out new addons than I ever did with the baseline game.  I likely won't finish a second play through of Awakening until they do happen to patch it, but it can be completed in it's current state.

[ShinsFortress]

Oh, that's alright then.



I could drive my car in its current state. But I really shouldn't have to.....

[yullyuk]

i agree with you, if something is in such a bad state it shouldnt be sold, ive said this time and time again the expansion shouldnt have gone to press until they at least bug tested it abit better than they did, im sure they could have got beta testers in or if they spent an extra month they would have found something substantial and fixed it, at least we wouldnt be complaining anywere near as much, but irregardless the DLC problems concerning vigilance are the biggest issues along with the ingame issues, bioware are known to make great rpg but they have also been known to push smaller projects out of the door before completion, this one being my main point, unfortauntely EA doesnt care that much about its consumers as much as they say they do they really dont, their a business and they don't care so long as they make money

[grant37]

hey i got my hands on a extra termius gear code on me all i ask for is a colector armor code

[Zy-El]

yullyuk wrote...

as the title says, why havnt we received a patch yet fixing the big bugs in awakening its been more than long enough for the dev team to make a patch to fix these issues so what the hell?

Long enough?  How do you know what's long enough?  ARe you a programmer?

Don't blame the devs.  The devs were not the ones who decided the drop-dead release date.  The devs were not the ones who rushed the product through testing or decided to drop testing altogether.  Blame the execs (who know nothing about programming).  It was the devs who said Awakenings wasn't ready for release but the execs released it anyways.

Now, it's the devs sweating bullets to get patch 1.04 out before the next DLC, probably in July.

[Levi28001]

Zy-El wrote...

yullyuk wrote...

as the title says, why havnt we received a patch yet fixing the big bugs in awakening its been more than long enough for the dev team to make a patch to fix these issues so what the hell?

Long enough?  How do you know what's long enough?  ARe you a programmer?

Don't blame the devs.  The devs were not the ones who decided the drop-dead release date.  The devs were not the ones who rushed the product through testing or decided to drop testing altogether.  Blame the execs (who know nothing about programming).  It was the devs who said Awakenings wasn't ready for release but the execs released it anyways.

Now, it's the devs sweating bullets to get patch 1.04 out before the next DLC, probably in July.

Answer your own questions first.  What is long enough, July???
To fix game that has had problems with some people since it came out last year? Hm

Don't blame the devs? They make the game, they break it thats who I will blame.

If your trying to lay it on EA, I have played EA games with decent patch times and less bugs/crashs, besides EA owns bioware, what's his face bioware guy got a nice cozy vp spot after they got bought.

"It was the devs who said Awakeings wasn't ready for release"? Before you go jumping on the fanboy train point to a dev link saying that before you spew more rumors/opionions and not solid facts.

If they can't the job done in time maybe they need to hire new devoplers because I have plenty of games that get fixed faster.  Let alone patchs that are released that are broken... and still advertised and not pulled or a few days to a week later a 1.03a at least.

Modifié par Levi28001, 30 avril 2010 - 11:13 .

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

I think bad management is to blame.



That said I think we all need reassurance from BW. Reassurance can go a long way you know.

[Nekator]

sooo... nuffin new then? Still a broken game and no word of patching? Great.. see ya in another two weeks...

[Nooneyouknow13]

Levi28001 wrote...

Zy-El wrote...

yullyuk wrote...

as the title says, why havnt we received a patch yet fixing the big bugs in awakening its been more than long enough for the dev team to make a patch to fix these issues so what the hell?

Long enough?  How do you know what's long enough?  ARe you a programmer?

Don't blame the devs.  The devs were not the ones who decided the drop-dead release date.  The devs were not the ones who rushed the product through testing or decided to drop testing altogether.  Blame the execs (who know nothing about programming).  It was the devs who said Awakenings wasn't ready for release but the execs released it anyways.

Now, it's the devs sweating bullets to get patch 1.04 out before the next DLC, probably in July.

Answer your own questions first.  What is long enough, July???
To fix game that has had problems with some people since it came out last year? Hm

Don't blame the devs? They make the game, they break it thats who I will blame.

If your trying to lay it on EA, I have played EA games with decent patch times and less bugs/crashs, besides EA owns bioware, what's his face bioware guy got a nice cozy vp spot after they got bought.

"It was the devs who said Awakeings wasn't ready for release"? Before you go jumping on the fanboy train point to a dev link saying that before you spew more rumors/opionions and not solid facts.

If they can't the job done in time maybe they need to hire new devoplers because I have plenty of games that get fixed faster.  Let alone patchs that are released that are broken... and still advertised and not pulled or a few days to a week later a 1.03a at least.

More hands on deck would likely slow down the production cycle and not speed it up. More people means it's harder to come to a consensus on what they want to do, and more people making small test changes to the code and forgetting to document it, and a whole host of other problems. 

Amazingly, all of the remaining CTD and memory leak issues I had left after 1.03 went way with the latest nVIDIA driver update and the .NET Framework update.   So all of my very infrequent CTD issues were likely an issue with the optimization code being ahead of nVIDIA, and a large part of the memory leak all along was in the >NET framework.  If my results are typical, then with those out of the way they can ifnally concentrate on the less critical yet still annoying issues like the approval bugs in awakening, the random stealing loot tables, bonus healing, etc.  

Yes, the game has bugs, software always does.  Yes, Awakeing could have used more QA.  Being concerned about thsoe issues is one thing. Doing the online version of calling them and screaming at them certainly doesn't help.