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[Ashira Shepard]

NICKjnp wrote...

I think the Salarian Councilor is on board with Shepard and Anderson but is trying to keep quiet about it until more evidence is presented.  Mordin and his Pupil both know about Reaper indoctrination.  That would mean the STG knows about it.  I would assume that the Salarian Councilor knows about it as well (being that he has such a high position in Government).

That's a comforting thought at least, I hope you're right

Elithranduil wrote...
Pro-Human does not = Anti-Alien.



The Council have a Human
Representative.



Cerberus support a greater role for Humanity in
the Galactic Community.
Their objective is not to 'kill aliens'.

Actually I get the distinct feeling that TIM doesn't give a flying sh*t about the other species of the galaxy. Human's aren't supposed to be on top, no race is supposed to be on top. Whilst their main objective might not be to "kill aliens" - Cerberus certainly isn't Alien friendly.

[TuringPoint]

Then, um, why was Saren kicked out again?

For... treason???!?!

...yup.

Please note that Shepard can convince the council to allow him/her Spectre status.  The basic uninformed concern the council had was that Shepard would act against them for the sake of humanity above all else.  Similarly to Saren acting for himself above all else.  Either way, it's treason.

But Shepard has the opportunity to convince the council there's a reason for what he/she's doing.  You can choose to act on that or not.  Saren didn't.

Modifié par Alocormin, 28 avril 2010 - 05:15 .

[Ashira Shepard]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Absence of balance between the species does not guarantee instability IMO.

Yes, but by how things turn out with a fully Human council = repressed aliens.
Adorable Turian shopkeeper despises you, sadface

And to your question: I destroy it. Every time. Enjoy your spacedust TIM...<_<

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 28 avril 2010 - 05:12 .

[enormousmoonboots]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Elithranduil wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...
Uh, aligning with Cerberus doesn't help galactic stability. It actually harms it, since its intention is to give humans more power, which puts things out of balance.

Aligning with Cerberus helps nip the Collector & Reaper threat in the bud before it becomes a major galaxy-wide invasion crisis.

I would say eliminating a Human Reaper promotes galactic stability.

If a CIA agent showed up at the Pentagon after going dark and you had information implying that he was working for Al-Queda, would you tell him all of your plans? No matter what your personal feelings on Cerberus are, the rest of the galaxy views them as terrorists. I'd say the Council's reaction is completely logical.

TIM made the Council hostile to you by spreading rumors that you were with Cerberus to make sure you had nobody to rely on but him. We have no idea if the Council is telling Shep the truth with the whole 'ah yes, Reapers' thing--in fact, there are a few news announcements about Council races rebuilding their fleets and suddenly practicing drills that imply they're taking the Reapers more seriously than it seems. Don't forget that the salarian STG is aware of the Reapers, apparently aware enough to write academic papers about them.

And with that said, who destroyed/saved the Collector Base?

Shepard. I don't get your point.

[Darthnemesis2]

Elithranduil wrote...

You are a dick. Get out of my thread.

You know you don't mean that...

[Darthnemesis2]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

"Aligning with Cerberus helps nip the Collector & Reaper threat in
the bud before it becomes a major galaxy-wide invasion crisis."

Ok... but they're still coming. And now that Sheps doesn't work for TIM anymore (assuming paragon ending), he's free to return to the Council and say "See, I told you I wasn't being a traitor"

[Ashira Shepard]

Okay, not galactic instability, but still; repressed alien population isn't good

Btw: That's a missed scene for Bioware, if you go back to the Citadel, you can't talk to the council after the suicide mission to tell them that you royally screwed over TIM and f*cked up his plans to use the Collector base.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 28 avril 2010 - 05:18 .

[TuringPoint]

Elithranduil wrote...

At least Saren got a trial AND was only revoked when the Council was provided with evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

Shepard just got yelled at without a chance to defend himself.

No trial.  No conviction .  You spoke with them and chose to try and reason with them or let them consider you dead to them.

At least I know my Shepard had Spectre status reinstated.

[OverlordNexas]

Don't see whats so hard to understand. Cerberus is an enemy of the Council. Makes sense they wouldn't be too happy about one of their agents working for them.



And the Council is pretty generous, offering to reinstate your Spectre status and allowing you to run around with out having to report in to them.

[Ashira Shepard]

That's a of small comfort when they're turning a blind eye to the Reapers. Hopefully that datapad showing Harbinger at the end of the game is the "evidence" they're looking for.

Edit: Working for and working with are different things.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 28 avril 2010 - 05:20 .

[Nivenus]

Someone clearly never played the Cerberus missions in ME1.

[Darthnemesis2]

Nivenus wrote...

Someone clearly never played the Cerberus missions in ME1.

ENEMY IS EVERYWHERE!!!!!