Aller au contenu

Spectre Hypocrisy


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
156 réponses à ce sujet

#151
PrinceLionheart

PrinceLionheart
  • Members
  • 2 597 messages

Shandepared wrote...

That won't help you, Sajuro. You still aided Cerberus and committed any number of questionable acts in recruiting and securing the loyalty of your specialists.


In Terminus Space. The Council makes it painfully clear they don't care what you do as long as you keep to Terminus Space. They can't arrest Shepard for doing "illegal" actions outside of their Jurisdiction. 

#152
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages
[quote]Sajuro wrote...

though nonetheless saving the lives of everyone in the district, those not killed by the plague would be killed by the massive expansion of the Vorcha
[/quote]Wait... is Sajuro resorting to an argument of most lives likely saved and not morality and criminality of past actions?

Glory days! Soon another Renegade who will leave the Council to die and keep the base!

[quote]
You forgot vandal, those hanar really like that moon
[/quote]That to.

[quote]though the creator did end up dying as a result of my innefficiency, yay shepard :happy:
[/quote]Not only a diabolical criminal, but an incompetent criminal you say?


[quote]Regardless, Shepard blasted through the collectors there and there's probably footage to prove it.[/quote]Bah!

[quote]
providing valuable data on dark energy[/quote]To the quarians, not the Council.

[quote]
should score some points with the Asari Councilor
[/quote]What sort of score are we aiming for here?

[quote]
the fact that someone hated her enough to hire Thane suggested that more then one person knew she was nutters. Testimony from the salarian workers would vindicate you.[/quote]Lots of people are both loved and hated. Generally it's the richer and more influential set which matter more. I doubt Nasana's ties were with people poorer than night laborers.
[quote]
ah, well met[/quote]B)



[quote]not in council space , plus I was a Spectre and did that before. By the time I'm done, setting off a nuke on a garden world will be called 'pulling a Shepard'[/quote]Hey, Spectres have lost their licenses for less. It's not like this nuke was going to destroy a galaxy-threatening bio-weapon cure.

Still, nice point in tying your nameto galactic war crimes.


[quote]Now that's just stretching, Thresher Maws are by no means endangered.
[/quote]I thought it was funny.

[quote]That's par for C-sec nowadays, I didn't say my Shepard was squeaky[/quote]Still grounds for Shepard being arrested for whatever real reason is desired.
[quote]
He took the statue of liberty's head![/quote]And kept it quite safe, too.


[quote]and what, the blue suns would have broken up if I killed him? If anything, the resulting turmoil and power struggles would cause more instability.
[/quote]Blue Sun vs. Blue Sun instability is preferable to Blue Sun vs. galactic citizen instability.


[quote]From the quarians, could still tell the council of the research
[/quote]What good is telling them about the research without the data?

Not that you've told the Council about it either. Or is this going to be part of your plea bargain?

[quote]ended the Geth Threat beyond the Perseus veil and the threat of the entire geth force falling under the Reaper''s sway[/quote]'ah yes...'

You know, I'm not convinced the Council would believe anything about the Geth/Heretic split either. After all, that split was dependent on the Reapers as well.

[quote]I doubt Samara as a higher body count than Morinth. Again, this could score points with the Asari councilor.[/quote]Morinth kills individuals in drips and drabs, trying to remain discrete and hidden. Samara not only has centuries of action on her daughter, but kills entire criminal bases (and possibly police stations) to pursue her daughter.

[quote]
Had my Spectre status reinstated, and he wasn't technically a citizen of the Citadel and he was committing a crime by using a fake identity.[/quote]Citizenship doesn't change with a fake identity since both the real person and the fake ID have citizenship, and Spectre status doesn't mean what you do isn't a crime, only that the Council usually chooses to ignore it. They can revoke your Spectre status and try you for crimes you do as a Spectre...

Speaking of which, didn't you promise to limit yourself to Terminus space as a condition of becoming a Spectre? You violated the terms of your Spectre status if you use it on the Citadel.

[quote]
Glad you didn't see a problem with Mordin's loyalty.[/quote]I thought about throwing in unauthorized access of Salarian military data and something about how it's probably a crime to cure the genophage before I realized that whatever unwritten laws might exist, the Council doesn't officially stop cures to the genophage from being made.

I mean, it might nuke a garden word or three, but it's not illegal or anything.

#153
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Seth Burns wrote...

That's like saying "Saren is trying to do something good by working with the Reapers and Geth, BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! HE IS ABOVE THE LAW!" Um, no.

They can revoke your status if they find you're not doing the right thing. Working for a terroist group? Yeah that's not exactly the right thing, even if you can justify it the Council wouldn't understand.

it's a plot hole... why would shep work for cerberus if he fought them in mass effect 1?

Because strangers who have fought have never made common cause against a greater enemy. Nope, never. Must be a plot hole.

#154
jklinders

jklinders
  • Members
  • 502 messages

alienatedflea wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

in my playthrough, the council reinstated my spectre status even when i worked with Cerberus. so theres no issue here.

well yes they do reinstate your spectre status but until the condition that you would not go into the terminus systems i think or its the veil...one or the other...but you still didnt get the status for very long...Image IPB


Actually the reinstatement was contingent on Shepard not operating in Citadel space. The 'reinstatement' was just a formality that actually did not mean anything. The council regardless of whether thay are alien or human want Shepard out of their hair in as quiet a way as possible.

#155
Solenai

Solenai
  • Members
  • 83 messages
I didn't read the whole thead, just skimmed a page or so, but is the council aware that Cerberus actually saved them?

#156
Spartas Husky

Spartas Husky
  • Members
  • 6 151 messages
Turian Councilor:

"cerberus saved us??....we believe that you believe, but that doesn't make it true"



"the word of... a "former" cerberus agent is suspect... we refer to you shepard"



"ah... yes "cerberus charity" we have dismissed that claim"



either way it wont matter much unless is through force... which I am looking forward to my renegade shep and paragon alike using :P

#157
Guest_Elithranduil_*

Guest_Elithranduil_*
  • Guests
I just can't get over the fact saving the Council's life effectively changed nothing. Back in the Mass Effect 1 days I thought such a decision would have incredibly dramatic consequences for the sequel. Boy was I wrong! :P