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[Mythria]

The arch demon is dead. Alister has ditched my character. Now he won't even talk to her.  What happened to the idea of a mistress. If he has so much character he should never have asked her to sleep with him in the first place.   (I hope he caught something from Morrigan!) Then, of all things, Bioware lets me go on playing. Great but Morrigan is still there, no one knows we killed the arch demon.  And to top it all off, I can go two places, back to where Shale was and the expansion.  Can I do anything there? No, bec ause I have finished those areas.  So what's the point?  The game was so good up to that point.  It's so sad to see the story just end. :(Then there is awakening.  A whole different game with different characters.  What a disappointment.

[Meowbeast]

Your character should take Allistair on a medieval Maury Povich show and tell that playa what for.

[Elhanan]

What a bad dream that must have been. Good thing you can go to a prior save, and use this 'Vision' to alter this drab future event to one that is more desirable.



I often use saves as a way of playing out imaginative flights of fancy (eg; daydream of romances rather than remain unattached and focussed on the Blight), or as Omens much like the tainted dreams I experience.



It is your future; live it as you wish.

[DWSmiley]

Yes, the first time I romanced Alistair I ended up in the same disappointing situation. But unhappy endings were par for the course for my romancing. My very first LI was Morrigan and of course she ditched me after the DR. And I made the ultimate sacrifice when Leli was my love. I finally got a lasting relationship with Zev - ironically.

[mousestalker]

Zevran is very loyal. Treat him right and he will never leave. Unlike *cough* (Alistair/Morrigan) *cough*.

[Zy-El]

I think you have to know what you want from the beginning. As a HNF, I chose to become Queen with Alistair as King but not a love interest (though I think he wanted me anyways). He kept talking about babies and whatnot. I had all I wanted and needed in Leliana (hardened) who stayed with me to the very end - even the Origins epilogue. Yes, it is possible to have your cake and eat it too!

[ellyssa]

mousestalker wrote...

Zevran is very loyal. Treat him right and he will never leave. Unlike *cough* (Alistair/Morrigan) *cough*.

Morrigan makes it crystal clear throughout the adventure that she's not loyal to anyone but herself, and that will never change.

[Revalc]

funny, i managed to marry alastair in one playthrough (and he slept with morrigan so yay i got to be queen \\o/), and on another i managed to get morrigan to admit that she loves me, which is easier then it sounds, you can even choose to ''follow'' (find?) her at the end of the game if you chose to sleep with her.

[CybAnt1]

I think "hardened" King Al will take you as his mistress if you're not a FHN (that's the only one he'll marry) and he either marries Anora or rules alone.



Non "hardened" won't take such an arrangement. (This is what I've read, anyway.)



MHNs also have the option to have Leliana as mistress or Zev on the down low, if they marry Anora.

[DWSmiley]

CybAnt1 wrote...

I think "hardened" King Al will take you as his mistress if you're not a FHN (that's the only one he'll marry) and he either marries Anora or rules alone.

Non "hardened" won't take such an arrangement. (This is what I've read, anyway.)

That's what I thought, too, but you also have to execute Loghain.  I instead let Loghain make the ultimate sacrifice.  Alistair later admitted that was a good decision but there was no reviving the relationship.

[Mythria]

Tlena who is my female noble finally, figured out how to become queen with King Al!! I only started to do it just before the landsmeet although I had gotten him to the point he said he wanted to sleep with me. I did find joking with him seems to work the best but I think the start was when I told Arl Emmon that I wasn't sure Al wanted to be king or should. That made Al make the ultimate decision himself to be king and I think that's the key. Still I was surprised when Tlena rushed up and said Allistair will be king and I will be his queen. I'm now playing Awakening over just to see if Bioware followed through on that.

[Mythria]

I played the "before the landsmeet" thing over so many times (with Anora and Arl Emmon) making saves with each different approach that my husband (who hasn't finished the game) started yelling from the next room for me to put on my headphones. LOL

[Mythria]

Due to the goodie bag in the expansion that just came out, I was able to get everyone to love me. At the end of the story (before you meet the public) go around and talk to them all. There were a number of surprises.

[errant_knight]

Mythria wrote... The arch demon is dead. Alister has ditched my character. Now he won't even talk to her.  What happened to the idea of a mistress. If he has so much character he should never have asked her to sleep with him in the first place.   (I hope he caught something from Morrigan!) Then, of all things, Bioware lets me go on playing. Great but Morrigan is still there, no one knows we killed the arch demon.  And to top it all off, I can go two places, back to where Shale was and the expansion.  Can I do anything there? No, because I have finished those areas.  So what's the point?  The game was so good up to that point.  It's so sad to see the story just end. :(Then there is awakening.  A whole different game with different characters.  What a disappointment.

As people have said, you can vary the outcome a great deal depending on your choices and your origin. Personally, I think that Alistair's feeling that making the PC his mistress is less than fair to his future queen and to the PC herself is quite admirable. You can change that by talking to him if you've convinced him to look out for himself ('hardened' him). And if you're a HNF you can arrange a marriage to him at Landsmeet.

[Mythria]

I'm really not sure what you mean by hardened as I have been supportive of Allister all the way. The only thing I did differently this time was never "tell" him he should be king. Instead I suggested we run away to Orlais and did a lot of joking.

[errant_knight]

Mythria wrote... I'm really not sure what you mean by hardened as I have been supportive of Allister all the way. The only thing I did differently this time was never "tell" him he should be king. Instead I suggested we run away to Orlais and did a lot of joking.

Do you want me to tell you the actual  mechanism to do it?

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

If your not a noble make alistar duel loghain he'll kill him automatically then let anora have the throne and run away with alistar thats the best ending you can get for him if your not of noble blood, And in my oppion the best ending alistar can have.

[errant_knight]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote... If your not a noble make alistar duel loghain he'll kill him automatically then let anora have the throne and run away with alistar thats the best ending you can get for him if your not of noble blood, And in my oppion the best ending alistar can have.

That's pretty open to debate. It  really depends on how you feel about Anora, and whether you think allowing Alistair to remain someone who doesn't stand up for himself is a good thing.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

True but atleast the way i saw it when i romanced alistar on my mage that anora is a good leader and a strong woman and able to run the country, And it just seems more romantic to run off with prince and continue there adventures but your right its up for debate i make him king with anora on all my males. Had to do somthing diffirent and more dramatic for some of my females.

[TanithAeyrs]

Zev is still my favorite for happy endings - "I would travel to the gates of the Black City with you" not an exact quote, but he is incredibly loyal if you win his love (or even his friendship).



Awakenings feels more like an interlude in the Warden's story. I don't know if I hope for a continuation for the Warden or a whole new story. I would at least like to reach a post Awakening epilogue that gives more of a resolution for the love interests.



I have to admit I am writing my own ending (fanfic) for whatever that's worth.

[Wittand25]

On the two places you can go after the final battle. Those are from DLC and if you read the text that appears the first time you load the post archdeamon savegame you would know that Bioware decided to allow players to play DLC even with a character that completed the main story (the game does pretent that it is still before the landsmeet)

[errant_knight]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote... True but atleast the way i saw it when i romanced alistar on my mage that anora is a good leader and a strong woman and able to run the country, And it just seems more romantic to run off with prince and continue there adventures but your right its up for debate i make him king with anora on all my males. Had to do somthing diffirent and more dramatic for some of my females.

I agree with you in principle. Ruling a country and having to spend most of one's life at court is less than ideal for both Alistair and the PC. I always harden him, though. It just feels like he'll be happier in the long run if he's willing to stand up for himself, and that results in him feeling pretty strongly that he want's to be king and that Anora isn't a good option, so...king it is. He has such a strong sense of duty that I find it difficult to believe that he wouldn't feel guilt when Anora made decisions as ruler that he disagreed with hardened or unhardened.

Modifié par errant_knight, 29 avril 2010 - 06:58 .

[Orchomene]

I always let Loghain survive and Anora be the queen.

Alistair is really too childish for my taste.

[Elhanan]

If one requires motivation to ditch Anora, have her reveal herself during her escape, then speak to her afterwards. Having her blame me for almost ruining her plans was all I needed to choose Alistair.

[bzombo]