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[Alphyn]

Honestly, HUGE potential to be one of the most epic space-fights EVER.

Imagine it: 300 to 1,000 huge asari dreadnoughts, 2,000 to 4,000 massive Alliance (and maybe Cerberus) cruisers and assault-frigates, millions of turian fighter crafts and thousands of their cruisers, and, of course, the Normandy -- all against 2,500 to 4,000 Reapers, which completely dwarf the dreadnoughts and make the turian cruisers look like ants.

Whatever happens, I want to be a part of it. I want to see Reapers blow up from massive cannons or whatever. I want to be right on the frontline.


If BioWare does this right, it will simply be one of the most awesome things, like, ever.

Um... discuss, I guess.

[Mister Mida]

Yeah, Bioware has practically gold in their hands with Mass Effect 3. It could be as epic as the battle of Minas Tirith in The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King. Or they can just throw in the Deus Ex Machina card...

Modifié par Mister Mida, 28 avril 2010 - 12:02 .

[Alphyn]

Mister Mida wrote...

Yeah, Bioware has practically gold in his hands concerning Mass Effect 3. It could be as epic as the battle of Minas Tirith in The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King. Or they can just throw in the Deus Ex Machina card...

Oh, good lord, I hope not.

[Aceyalone7777]

I just cant imagine the amount of awesome if they do it right...

[Alphyn]

Bump.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Alphyn wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

Yeah, Bioware has practically gold in his hands concerning Mass Effect 3. It could be as epic as the battle of Minas Tirith in The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King. Or they can just throw in the Deus Ex Machina card...

Oh, good lord, I hope not.

Agreed, Tolkien ruined RotK that way. No need for BioWare to do the same with ME3.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 28 avril 2010 - 12:58 .

[Alphyn]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Agreed, Tolkien ruined RotK that way. No need foor BioWare to do the same with ME3.

So, what Deus Ex Machina are we talking about here?

Modifié par Alphyn, 28 avril 2010 - 12:58 .

[adam_grif]

I'm guessing we won't take the full brunt of the Reaper fleet. If we do, then it will turn out to only be 200 or so Reapers. Maybe less.

[Alphyn]

adam_grif wrote...

I'm guessing we won't take the full brunt of the Reaper fleet. If we do, then it will turn out to only be 200 or so Reapers. Maybe less.

Only 200?

[Kaiser Shepard]

Alphyn wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Agreed, Tolkien ruined RotK that way. No need foor BioWare to do the same with ME3.

So, what Deus Ex Machina are we talking about here?

Not sure if it was exactly the same in the book, but I remember Jackson hated to use them in the movie.

[Sina84]

My guess is Shepard will be working to activate the ancient doomsday machine to wipe out all the Reapers while this battle is going on, and not actually take part. But I think the Reapers will roam free for alot of the game, cities and planets being completely annihilated so we really understand the point that we're f***ed unless Shepard saves the day.

[adam_grif]

Alphyn wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

I'm guessing we won't take the full brunt of the Reaper fleet. If we do, then it will turn out to only be 200 or so Reapers. Maybe less.

Only 200?

We never saw more than that at the end of ME2. We don't have any solid figures. Thousands of reapers is totally infeasible to fight, the "1000 asari dreadnoughts" given by OP is totally ludicrous and ME3 would have to take place like 300 years in the future for that to be possible.

If they put "thousands of reapers" in, the only possible solution is Deus Ex Machine, ala the ending to Independence Day, which was mega lame.

[Mister Mida]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Agreed, Tolkien ruined RotK that way. No need foor BioWare to do the same with ME3.

So, what Deus Ex Machina are we talking about here?

Not sure if it was exactly the same in the book, but I remember Jackson hated to use them in the movie.

I've read the book and I can tell you Aragorn had already released them by the time he arrived at Minas Tirith. He only used the Dead to defeat the corsairs of Umbar if I remember correctly.

[cruc1al]

A solution that does not involve directly fighting and defeating the reaper fleet with an army of space ships doesn't have to be a deus ex machina solution. There are ways you could make a compelling, internally logical/consistent story for ME3 in which the reaper fleet is defeated without a huge predicable space battle (or a story that somehow makes defeating them unnecessary).

[nov_pl]

I want to see that battle, but I guess there's more than few thousand of Reapers.

Just look.

The Universe is probably 13 750 000 000 yrs old. If the Reapers are building single Reaper by killing a civilization, then the Cycle was repeated 275 000 times, and 275k of Reapers were created.

Tho, we aren't sure if the Reapers are created of a single nation, so this is just a theory.

[Alamar2078]

Alphyn wrote...

Honestly, HUGE potential to be one of the most epic space-fights EVER.

Imagine it: 300 to 1,000 huge asari dreadnoughts, 2,000 to 4,000 massive Alliance (and maybe Cerberus) cruisers and assault-frigates, millions of turian fighter crafts and thousands of their cruisers, and, of course, the Normandy -- all against 2,500 to 4,000 Reapers, which completely dwarf the dreadnoughts and make the turian cruisers look like ants. 

[IMHO] Practically none of the above is going to happen ....

First the number of dreadnoughts are strictly controlled by treaty.  IIRC Turians have less than 40 ... Humans less than 8.  The Asari & Salarians are likely inbetween those two numbers.   There are probably a buttload of cruisers but there's in-game evidence that the Alliance has nowhere near that many warships.   IIRC the Quarians have one of the biggest [war] fleets in Citadel space but all that involves are 49000+ plus ships retrofitted to have some guns & barriers and only "hundreds" of dedicated warships.

On the other hand I think a max number of only 4000 reapers is likely off by an order of magnitude ... I.E. there are likely more Reapers than there are COMBINED warships in both the CItadel space && Terminus systems.  This wouldn't be an EPIC fight .... It would be an EPIC FAIL if the fleets in ME3 tried to hit the reapers head-on.  The best we can likely hope for is guerilla tactics and maybe an EPIC stalling / distraction battle that gives Shep time to pull a rabbit out of his @ss.

I'm sure ME3 will be a VERY GOOD / HIGH ENERGY ending to the ME trilogy but [IMHO at best] the epic space battle won't even matter other than to buy time to do something else ...

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

My guess is some guerrilla warfare with people that you gain loyalty of buying you more time.

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

Shepard will probably ride to the rescue with a combined Geth/Quarian/Urdnot/Rachni fleet, save the Alliance and Council, then fight his/her way to the heart of the Citadel again and activate some big anti-Reaper weapon. You can keep your big space battle, give me Wrex leading an army of Krogan swarming over the praesidium.

Modifié par Gyroscopic_Trout, 28 avril 2010 - 03:27 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm dying to see that with my own eyes and be part of it as well. Imagine a cutscene with all the fleets the OP mentioned with the Normandy SR-2 as their leader, heading towards another fleet with Reaper ships. The epic battle begins!



I really, really hope BioWare don't mess things up with ME3. It's literally a golden opportunity to present just how far the creative nature of human imagination can go.

[FREEGUNNER]

Admiral Ackbar cameo apperence to save the day, you heard it here first folks.

Alphyn wrote...

Honestly, HUGE potential to be one of the most epic space-fights EVER.

Doubt it, this is unreal engine 3 we're talking about.

[ObserverStatus]

Perhaps Shepard can convince Harbinger to go away with an alignment check.

[JRCHOharry]

Can someone fill me in here... Deus Ex Machina?