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[Cypher0020]

Thinking of rerolling DAO with a new CE (warrior ftw!) and was wondering about the wedding...did your CE's actually feel any affection for your would be spouses? I thought Nelaros kinda screamed  Conrad from ME... but he was the ONLY elf along with Soris that actually did anything for the women.... and yeah.....

Lets just say my PC always keeps her wedding ring


Also.... how come you can never mentioned you were almost married? Or at least had feelings for your would be spouse??

[Gilsa]

I roleplayed my CE as wanting to get married when I saw another poster say that she wore her wedding dress to Landsmeet. She said if you were excited about getting married, it could play out as a rage-filled origin when you show up at Landsmeet. I thought that was brilliant. I liked how positive the dialogue was when you expressed excitement and what a wonderful rapport there was with Nelaros. To be honest, pouting about getting married seemed kind of dickish, especially when you know he's going to die for you later on. It also helped to set the tone for the Zevran romance in the sense that she had her future planned out. She was going to get married and settle in her new life. Now she has no idea what's coming -- she's in a freefall of sorts. So that's why she's all over asking Zevran where their relationship is going, what about being in love, etc. It was a fun RP playthrough. She did the ultimate sacrifice in the end, leaving Loghain alive.

Edit: BTW, you've been missed in the dwarf thread! 

Modifié par Gilsa, 29 avril 2010 - 08:04 .

[Aisynia]

My first one didn't. but subsequent playthroughs have.



I feel like the story has a lot more impact when you lose someone you actually feel like you could have loved.



<--Kaylee mourns Nelaros and the life they could have had together that was robbed from them.



I modded in the wedding ring with some decent stats so I could wear it the whole game.

[Aisynia]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Thinking of rerolling DAO with a new CE (warrior ftw!) and was wondering about the wedding...did your CE's actually feel any affection for your would be spouses? I thought Nelaros kinda screamed  Conrad from ME... but he was the ONLY elf along with Soris that actually did anything for the women.... and yeah.....

Lets just say my PC always keeps her wedding ring


Also.... how come you can never mentioned you were almost married? Or at least had feelings for your would be spouse??

Oh, and replying to some specific points.

I find if you are super nice to Nelaros, he is really quite dreamy, very super nice guy.

That said, you can mention it, in a way, a couple times. When flirting with Bann Teagan you can say your fiance was murdered by a human. If you take your love interest with you to the alienage towards the end of the game, they will be shocked (Leliana especially will say "Y-you're married?!") and ask you about it. You can be straight forward, but you can also react defensively.

Also, outside Flemeth's hut.. if you say "Alistair is the real Grey Warden here, not me", you have the opporunity to say after that something like "I lost my fiance before coming here, I know how you feel".

[mousestalker]

I've played it several ways, but the happy, joyous bride plays the best, IMHO. If you are nice to him, Nelaros is quite lovely. There is exactly one sour apple in the alienage on your wedding day, Elva. Most of the elves you speak with seem genuinely glad you're getting married and are quite supportive.



All of which makes for an emotional contrast with what happens at the Arl's palace and afterwards. You go from a warm, close knit community of relatives and distant relatives to strangers and enemies. You go from people you have known your entire life to Alistair, who is naive, self absorbed and human and he is the one person you will have known the longest in the game outside of those in your Alienage.

My wardens get especially wistful at the Dalish because the community reminds them of what they have lost (at least temporarily).

[Remaix]

My City Elf (Signe) didn't want to get married... until she met the guy, that is. It was mainly that she was afraid of being stuck with a jerk. When she saw that wasn't the case, she cheered right up. Until, you know, the origin happened.

I made her wear that wedding ring the whole game... until the final battle. I saw it as her learning to let go and just be happy with what she had now (Alistair, for one! XD), not what she had lost. Or, at least, that's how I RPed it! ^^

[nranola]

My CE wasn't too keen on getting married, but was resigned to the idea. There wasn't much she could do about it anyhow. Never harbored any remote feelings for Nelaros up until she found out he was the brains behind the rescue; that's when she thought having him as a husband wouldn't be so bad after all. And then, he gets slaughtered in front of her eyes.

So as far as feelings were concerned, my CE wasn't quite sure if she had them herself, but watching him get cut down still sent her in a fury. I RPed it as something that confused her, a feeling that she struggled with ever since. Needless to say she kept her wedding ring on for the majority of the game.

It meshed really well with the Zevran romance, I think, which is one of the reasons why I had so much fun with this particular origin. x3

[Aisynia]

mousestalker wrote...

I've played it several ways, but the happy, joyous bride plays the best, IMHO. If you are nice to him, Nelaros is quite lovely. There is exactly one sour apple in the alienage on your wedding day, Elva. Most of the elves you speak with seem genuinely glad you're getting married and are quite supportive.

All of which makes for an emotional contrast with what happens at the Arl's palace and afterwards. You go from a warm, close knit community of relatives and distant relatives to strangers and enemies. You go from people you have known your entire life to Alistair, who is naive, self absorbed and human and he is the one person you will have known the longest in the game outside of those in your Alienage.
My wardens get especially wistful at the Dalish because the community reminds them of what they have lost (at least temporarily).

My city elves' enchantment with the idea of how cool the dalish are wears off pretty quickly after meeting them.

Modifié par Aisynia, 29 avril 2010 - 11:25 .

[nranola]

Aisynia wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

I've played it several ways, but the happy, joyous bride plays the best, IMHO. If you are nice to him, Nelaros is quite lovely. There is exactly one sour apple in the alienage on your wedding day, Elva. Most of the elves you speak with seem genuinely glad you're getting married and are quite supportive.

All of which makes for an emotional contrast with what happens at the Arl's palace and afterwards. You go from a warm, close knit community of relatives and distant relatives to strangers and enemies. You go from people you have known your entire life to Alistair, who is naive, self absorbed and human and he is the one person you will have known the longest in the game outside of those in your Alienage.
My wardens get especially wistful at the Dalish because the community reminds them of what they have lost (at least temporarily).

My city elves' enchantment with the idea of how cool the dalish are wears off pretty quickly after meeting them.

Haha! Same here. xD The fascination faded about two lines into the Dalish camp.

[Axekix]

Remaix wrote...

My City Elf (Signe) didn't want to get married... until she met the guy, that is. It was mainly that she was afraid of being stuck with a jerk. When she saw that wasn't the case, she cheered right up. Until, you know, the origin happened.
I made her wear that wedding ring the whole game... until the final battle. I saw it as her learning to let go and just be happy with what she had now (Alistair, for one! XD), not what she had lost. Or, at least, that's how I RPed it! ^^

This is pretty much exactly how I'm playing my current CE.  She was reluctant at first but was happy once she met Nelaros, and of course was devastated by his murder.

[Cypher0020]

@ Gilsa



Yeah I see my thread is 84 pages! Daaaaaaaaang!





Wow... I'm happy to see so much Nelaros love! I thought he would be one of the most disliked npc's or something amongst other female gamers



I played the happy bride and then the harpy ***** type..... and I think that being happy is the best outcome.... well a little spunk/sass and some cheerfulness



stupid humans :>[ now I dont know weather my new PC will hate Alistair or woo him... or be anti human and go with Zev

[Hyper Cutter]

Personally, I think fighting the marriage to the last is more entertaining. Every time I made/remade my female CE rogue, she did that. I'd say it fit her personality, but saying that it defined her personality for me would be more accurate.

My male CE warrior was much more interested in marriage, on the other hand.

[odiedragon]

Mine didn't want to get married, and then felt hugely guilty when she realized that Nelaros literally would die for her. She didn't feel like she deserved that kind of devotion, especially from a stranger. I forget exactly how long she wore that wedding ring, but it was a good long while. It was hard for her to take it off.

[Aisynia]

Nelaros is a super awesome guy.

[Sarah1281]

Mine didn't. I don't really understand people saying 'yes, I don't want an arranged marriage, I don't want to get married right now, I'm going to plot my escape...wait, is that the groom? DAMN is he fine...' and then being okay with it. Does the fact he's not ugly suddenly make this a good situation? That really strikes me as shallow. You don't know he's a better person then most of the other elves until he rescues you and by then he dead. My CE was upset that he died for her when she resented his very existence so much but she didn't have sentimental 'if only's about how awesome married life would be because she still knew practically nothing about him so that would just be pointlessly idealizing a dead guy.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 29 avril 2010 - 01:56 .

[Aisynia]

Well if you give him a chance, and you aren't a b**** to him, he shows himself to be an incredibly nice guy.



If I was stuck with an arranged marriage, I think I could do a lot worse lol.

[Sarah1281]

True. But would that make you WANT to be stuck in an arranged marriage?

[Aisynia]

You mean what would make me want to be?

Hard to say. Obviously within my culture, it's unheard of, and I would be amazingly unlikely to be willing.

However in alienage elf culture, that's just how things are in general. Being raised that way (male and female) from a young age, it wouldn't be as bizarre or alien as it is to us. It wouldn't be at all, in fact.

The vast majority of couples in the alienage seem happy enough, and Cyrion and Adaia apparently loved each other greatly (and Cyrion himself is a very good person).

I'm not saying arranged marriage is the way to go, or that it always turns out happy, or anything like that, I'm just saying that as a city elf, you would have a different cultural viewpoint than we do as players. I take that kind of thing into account.

For the city elves, marriage means the end of childhood, starting a real life, doing something with themselves, and adding to the community, which is very important to them. If you happen to get hitched to a nice guy like Nelaros ("I will spend every waking moment learning to make you happy" *swoon*), then all the better. I think it's something the vast majority of them celebrate and look forward to.

Modifié par Aisynia, 29 avril 2010 - 02:29 .

[mousestalker]

Most marriages on this planet are still of the arranged variety. Think of Africa, India, China and Indonesia as well as the entire Muslim world. Arranged marriages were also the norm for much of Western history as well. It's not what I'd ever want, but those are the facts.



If you grow up in a culture where you know your parents will be choosing your spouse you accept that as your future. My view is that my last CEF loved and trusted her father. She knew that he would make the best possible match for her. She was anxious to start her own household and to begin as an adult. That Nelaros was a sweety was just icing on the cake. So of course she was looking forward to her wedding.



Her best male friend, Soris and her would be beginning a new venture side by side. Their children would would play with each other. They would be there for each other in good times and bad.

[Aisynia]

mousestalker wrote...

If you grow up in a culture where you know your parents will be choosing your spouse you accept that as your future. My view is that my last CEF loved and trusted her father. She knew that he would make the best possible match for her. She was anxious to start her own household and to begin as an adult. That Nelaros was a sweety was just icing on the cake. So of course she was looking forward to her wedding.

Pretty much how my characters approach it.

Her best male friend, Soris and her would be beginning a new venture side by side. Their children would would play with each other. They would be there for each other in good times and bad.

Lol my first playthrough was city elf. I was so confused by the information overload, I thought Soris was my betrothed. Then he called me cousin, and I was like o.o; but then he mentioned we had to go meet our betrothed.. and I was like phew!

Soris is a super awesome cool guy though, he and Shianni would make great cousins to have around.

[AnniLau]

The CEF I played just to see the Origin didn't, but when I came back with the intention of actually playing the character through, she did...it made it all more meaningful.

[Cypher0020]

Is the CEF the only origin when you save everyone?



- Soris lives and moves to Highever... right?



- Shiannai lives and can become the Bann? (how does that work?)



- Through choices.... you can save the PC's dad from being sold off??



I haven't finished the run... but the CEF seems to be one if not the only origin when you save/help your family

[nranola]

Aisynia wrote...

Lol my first playthrough was city elf. I was so confused by the information overload, I thought Soris was my betrothed. Then he called me cousin, and I was like o.o; but then he mentioned we had to go meet our betrothed.. and I was like phew!

Soris is a super awesome cool guy though, he and Shianni would make great cousins to have around.

This is exactly why I chose to go with a Human Noble on my first playthrough. I just knew I'd get smothered with information and thought it best to view the world first through human eyes, something we're all most familiar with. After that it was easier settling in on the culture of other races.

Soris is adorable! And gorgeous. If he and my CE weren't cousins, and if I could get my dirty OOC hands on him, she would have went for him instead. Just saying.

Modifié par nranola, 29 avril 2010 - 03:39 .

[nranola]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Is the CEF the only origin when you save everyone?

- Soris lives and moves to Highever... right?

- Shiannai lives and can become the Bann? (how does that work?)

- Through choices.... you can save the PC's dad from being sold off??

I haven't finished the run... but the CEF seems to be one if not the only origin when you save/help your family

Hmm... I'm not very sure about this as I've not finished the run yet, but if you play a Dwarf Commoner and survive after the battle with the archdemon, I guess you sort of save your family too? xD

Shianni becomes an elder in one epilogue slide, and in another your PC can become the Bann of the alienage, though I personally haven't seen the latter. I hear Soris runs off to be with a human girl but I haven't seen that myself as well. And yes, you can choose to save your dad later on.

[Aisynia]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Is the CEF the only origin when you save everyone?

- Soris lives and moves to Highever... right?

- Shiannai lives and can become the Bann? (how does that work?)

- Through choices.... you can save the PC's dad from being sold off??

I haven't finished the run... but the CEF seems to be one if not the only origin when you save/help your family

1) Soris does indeed move to Highever, having married a human woman (Valora, his elven wife, was sold to Tevinter). They moved because of the discrimination issues of an elf-human coupling and wanted to get away from the crap. They had lotsa babies.

2) If you survive thge battle with the Archdemon, Alistair or Anora offer to make you the new Bann of the Alienage. The idea is that the Alienage will have its own ruler with an equal voice in the landsmeet. You can decline, and say that Shianni would make a better bann than you. If you sacrifice yourself, the monarch makes your father, Cyrion, the bann.

3) When you go to stop the slavers, Cyrion is there instead of Valedrian. Valendrian already got shipped away, as did many others, but you do save your "immediate family", yes.