Why do so many people seem to want multiplayer?
#26
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 04:57
#27
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 05:01
Would also be a nice way to show the unbelievers the benefits of working with EA.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 30 avril 2010 - 05:02 .
#28
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 05:03
Now I'm not saying I support this, because I don't. I'm just saying that this would be the only way I could see it being done in a tasteful manner. I still say that Bioware should just stick to the main plot of the game, and not take away from it just to add multiplayer. Mass Effect already has enough replay value to the point of where I've heard of people playing through it over 100 times.
#29
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Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:16
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#30
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:21
#31
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:24
Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Multiplayer if done correctly can extend the life of a product indefinitely.
Only if the game was intended to be a multiplayer in the first place.
Not everygame would be excellent if it had co-op or multiplayer. Mass Effect and other type of RPG games, immerse the gamer into there own world, making there own story come to life. You cannot escape into that fantasy 'Badger Smasher 316' is screaming down the mic and fooking about.
Here's another thing. You could be there day dreaming about what could be the ultimate game, you imagine you and your mates going on missions and bringing alsorts of treasures back to trade for money. You could imagine everything, but put that into reality and your brilliant game would become a pile o' ****e within minutes. Why? Because no 2 gamers want to do the same thing, so imagine what it would be like mixing it up with thousands of gamers. This is another reason why not every single player game could be made better by having multiplayer.
#32
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:25
#33
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:27
slimgrin wrote...
I think the current trend in action/adventure games is to supplement a weak single player campaign with even weaker multiplayer. I want them to keep Mass Effect a rich single player experience.
Thats the other thing. With the tech available for the likes of the 360, we always end up getting half a 1 player game and half a multiplayer game. End result being you usually get a single player story that lasts around 4-5 hours, and a multiplayer that dies within a week online because it tried to be clever but fell on its arse.
Its very rare to get a great 1 player and multiplayer game on console. It does happen, but its very rare.
#34
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:28
#35
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:32
Sure I get that people enjoy gaming around the world with other people. But I pretty much hate the idea of chatting away whilst I am trying to enjoy my game. Give me an amazing 1 player game any day of the week.
#36
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:45
-In short I think it comes from players who see Mass Effect 2 (and ME3 unfortunately) as nothing more than a third person shooter game. Nothing more and nothing less. Even the mentioned co-op is nothing more than a poor mans multiplayer mode for shooters.worm_burner wrote...
It seems like multiplayer would ruin a game like mass effect. Even co op in my opinion is a bad idea for a game like this, if you want a 3rd person multiplayer game go play gears of war. Could some one explain how this could even be possible in a game like this and how would not it not ruin the experience of mass effect?
The Mass Effect story is a single player one and adding any kind of multiplayer mode would just cheapen the game more than what has already has been done to it.
#37
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:47
Brako Shepard wrote...
Personally, if BioWare ever made a game that had co-op or multiplayer. I would save my money for something else.
Sure I get that people enjoy gaming around the world with other people. But I pretty much hate the idea of chatting away whilst I am trying to enjoy my game. Give me an amazing 1 player game any day of the week.
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#38
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 06:54
Once upon a time, there was this company called Retro Studios that made an amazing game called Metroid Prime. Metroid Prime was a great single-player FPS/action-adventure without any multi-player mode. Some people wanted multi-player, though, so it was put in the sequel.
Needless to say, the multi-player mode was crap.
The lesson of this story is that BioWare should stick to what they do best, and that is putting all of their strength in to crafting a high-quality, polished single-player experience instead of allocating a portion of their resources in to what could be a half-assed multi-player mode that's just there for the hell of it.
Modifié par Batman90, 30 avril 2010 - 06:55 .
#39
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:25
cruc1al wrote...
worm_burner wrote...
co op would be kinda dull for the second player. All of the dialog would still have to be controlled by the first player. They would have to sit out some of the best aspects of the game.
Of course if there was a co-op mode it should be possible to just skip the conversations and get on with the real fun. It would work best for players who aren't interested of the conversations, probably because they're heard them before. And I guess some would actually like to go over the conversations any way, by deciding together which conversation option to take.
Which is exactly the type of person we don't want playing Mass Effect. If all you want is PEW PEW HEADSHOT and you're going to skip all the dialog and story (you know, the stuff that makes Mass Effect so good), then why not just... go play Gears of War.
God, why do the Halo tards have to try and ruin everything?
#40
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:28
#41
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:32
#42
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:33
I would assume that most of the people opposed to multiplayer have played resident evil 5.vhatever wrote...
I think a better question is "why are so many people opposed to MP".
#43
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:36
#44
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 08:59
bobobo878 wrote...
I would assume that most of the people opposed to multiplayer have played resident evil 5.vhatever wrote...
I think a better question is "why are so many people opposed to MP".
Using bassackward logic like that, we wouldn't even have a ME2, because "look at what happened to deus ex when they did a sequel!"
Modifié par vhatever, 30 avril 2010 - 09:01 .
#45
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:22
bobobo878 wrote...
I would assume that most of the people opposed to multiplayer have playedvhatever wrote...
I think a better question is "why are so many people opposed to MP".resident evil 5any multiplayer game on Xbox Live.
Fixed.
Seriously, most people who purchased Mass Effect did it for the story, the dialog and the roleplaying; none of which translate into multiplayer gaming easily (or at all). Thus when people bring up adding multiplayer components, they see everything they love about Mass Effect being thrown out so that some hacnkeyed co-op or competitive deathmatch nonsense can be shoehorned in and they can have people named "IPwnJew94" and "SuckItMuthaFugger69" swearing at them over a headset while shooting them in the face.
Honestly, I tried co-op in Fable II and it was godawful. You can't enjoy a story/dialog-heavy game when you have some other player tea-bagging the local wildlife and pestering you with "Are you done talking yet?!"
If you want multiplayer, they are literally a BAJILLION other co-op and competitive mutliplayer games out there. Mass Effect was designed to be a single-player experience and it should remain a single-player experience. Not EVERY GAME has to have a multiplayer component shoehorned into it.
Modifié par JKoopman, 30 avril 2010 - 09:23 .
#46
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:27
Borderlands is an excellent game for co-op or multiplayer.
Modifié par vhatever, 30 avril 2010 - 09:27 .
#47
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:30
vhatever wrote...
No one says you have to play multiplayer.
Borderlands is an excellent game for co-op or multiplayer.
MP and CO-OP is fun for games designed for it. Combat focus not story focus.
ME is not Borderlands.
#48
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:31
vhatever wrote...
No one says you have to play multiplayer.
Borderlands is an excellent game for co-op or multiplayer.
Borderlands is also a first-person shooter that was designed from the ground up with co-op multiplayer in mind.
EDIT: And incidentally, I hardly ever played it co-op because you get the same "rush rush get through the dialog so we can get back to the action" feeling as I mentioned in Fable II. I'd be taking my time reading though all the quest descriptions and meanwhile my partner would be bunny-hopping around the room like a coked-up terrier pestering me with "Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet?"...
Modifié par JKoopman, 30 avril 2010 - 09:34 .
#49
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:33
TJSolo wrote...
vhatever wrote...
No one says you have to play multiplayer.
Borderlands is an excellent game for co-op or multiplayer.
MP and CO-OP is fun for games designed for it. Combat focus not story focus.
ME is not Borderlands.
You can have combat AND story. There is no video game law against it. They are not mutually exclusive.
I don't know where people come up with this stuff.
#50
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 09:36
vhatever wrote...
TJSolo wrote...
vhatever wrote...
No one says you have to play multiplayer.
Borderlands is an excellent game for co-op or multiplayer.
MP and CO-OP is fun for games designed for it. Combat focus not story focus.
ME is not Borderlands.
You can have combat AND story. There is no video game law against it. They are not mutually exclusive.
I don't know where people come up with this stuff.
Read my edit. Multiplayer does not lend itself well to a slow pacing.





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