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[Busomjack]

The sooner people find it in their hearts to embrace the wisdom I offer, the sooner they will unleash their true potential.

My victory is inspiring not just because I am an exceptional athlete, but also because I am one of the most diverse athletes on the planet. Every athletic activity I engage in one way or another relates to my overall physical prowess and skill.

I study freestyle martial arts for hand to hand combat, sword fighting for armed combat, wrestling, running for endurance, weight lifting for strength, ninjutsu for stealth and I could go on.



I'm not some bag of skin and bones from Kenya who runs so he can buy more cows for his farm, no. I'm a true leader and my accomplishments define me.

[Mr.Skar]

That post you just made? Prime example of why you will fail to inspire people. Your attitude is all wrong for it. As far as most diverse athelete on the planet, I doubt that (Mariusz Pudzianowski has you beat for one). Freestyle martial arts is another way of saying you have no training at all, a discussion we have already had. Wrestling with your homeboys is not the same as getting real training, sparring against people who have actual skill, and fighting in real tournaments.

[Mr.Bombastic_]

 I would hardly call a half marathon extreme. I the only thing you inspire in you fellow gamers is shame for you to associate yourself with us. I you want truly inspiring you should look at this video because finishing a triathlon with out use of your legs is truly inspiring. You on the other hand are just an over inflated meat head that need th be taken down a few pegs   

[Busomjack]

No training at all?! My fighting skills are freestyle but I still incorporate many various forms of martial arts into my own fighting form. Fighting is an art form after all and I am a master at this art. In my training I have endured pain and beatings that would've killed most people. My survival is a testament to my limitless fighting prowess.

Being inspired is not a one way street. I've done my part in showing a display of my exceptional athletic abilities, now it is up to you and others to show the humility necessary to to accept my wisdom. There have been others such as yourself who have resisted me but once they realized how short life was, they accepted my wisdom and I have crafted many a men into weapons of ultimate destruction and death.



However, I was not born great. I will not give you my life story but let me tell you about something which inspired me for the better.



You see, I have always been a warrior, but I was skeptical of the path of the Samurai as I felt they dishonored themselves by using guns during the Satsuma Rebellions. However, I watched a movie in 2003 called The Last Samurai starring Tom Cruise. Like Cruise's character, I was skeptical of the Samurai's teachings but by the end of the film I had not only come to accept it, but to embrace it and follow the path of the Samurai myself.

Ever since that time I have trained in the art of the sword and have achieved mastery in many of it's forms. It was through my own humility that I learned to embrace this wisdom and better myself,. Once you've learned humility, perhaps you can learn to be more like me too.

[Busomjack]

Mr.Bombastic, I have nothing but the utmost respect for that guy. There were a few wheelchair racers during the half-marathon I ran in and I think it's the sign of a true warrior to not let an injury destroy your spirit and will.

However, keep in mind that I am going to be participating in the Ironman Triathalon. That is a consecutive 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike ride, and then a full marathon(26.2 miles).

That is truly X-treme.

[Mr.Skar]

Like I said, we already had the training discussion. Unless you test yourself against your fellow martial artists in a hard sparring environment (legitimate contact/submission wrestling, no lock flow or point sparring stuff) or in a tournament of some kind, your "freestyle" is just brawling. Which has its merits, but is not a martial art.

[enormousmoonboots]

People taking Busomjack seriously?



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[Busomjack]

Testing myself against fellow martial artists? I've been tested against real life trained assassins.

My freestyle fighting techniques go beyond mere brawling, it is very much an art in itself. Indeed there are many cases where I can over power an enemy just through my sheer strength but in cases where the coward tries using a gun, I have trained in many abilities to incapacitate an opponent both lethally and non-lethally.

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[Mr.Skar]

Like what? Trained with who and where. Be specific please, I'm curious. In your wrestling, what submissions do you use most? You can't just say "I have trained in many things" and leave it at that, the what and where is important as well.

[Busomjack]

Mr.Skar wrote...

Like what? Trained with who and where. Be specific please, I'm curious. In your wrestling, what submissions do you use most? You can't just say "I have trained in many things" and leave it at that, the what and where is important as well.

The one's who have taught me would prefer to stay anonymous.
As for my wrestling, it depends on what kind of opponent I'm facing.  For larger opponents, I will try to subdue them using a basic arm triangle choke since they often won't have much range of motion with the rest of their limbs and will be at my mercy but for medium and smaller opponents I will not just focus on defeating them but also on demoralizing them using particularly humilliating holds like the Fireman's carry before proceeding with a slam or powerbomb.
I have extremely powerful arms so I usually go for chokeslams as I find going for the neck is a great way to subdue even strong opponents.
Still, like I said I am freestyle and can switch from completely different styles of martial arts on a whim.  Wrestling is great in close range combat where you don't have enough limb extention to throw an effect kick or punch. 
When I fight kickboxers they usually try to push themselves away but that leaves them vulnerable to my death grip.

[Omicrone]

Dude, you eat a vegan diet and you weightlift. Get over yourself, you're a joke.

[Busomjack]

Omicrone wrote...

Dude, you eat a vegan diet and you weightlift. Get over yourself, you're a joke.

Of course I eat a vegan diet.  What better way to get your protein than through sources which are also great sources of complex carbohydrates such as amaranth, quinoa, lentils, hemp etc?
Meat has protein, sure but it also has a lot of fat which slows down the absorbtion of carbohydrates and gives me less energy.
The idea that you got to eat meat to be an athlete is just another one of those outdated ideas about nutrition.  Kind of like how people used to think margarine was better for you than butter, it's not true.

Besides, did you see my pics?  If you can't be big being a vegan, how do you explain those awesome pecs, deltoids, triceps, and biceps?

One of my inspirations for my fighting styles, Mac Danzig is also a vegan.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mai 2010 - 08:22 .

[Massadonious1]

Steroids.

[Busomjack]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Steroids.

If I used stereroids I would be much bigger than I am.  My body is built for strength but it is also built for agility and and endurance.  
using stereroids would make me stronger by altering my body's chemistry, that would cost me in the long run.  I would not even consider it.

[Mr.Skar]

On a larger opponent you would use arm triangle? You do know the arm triangle is from the top position right? A larger opponent is less likely to be taken by that particular move, as the have more raw power to push around. Plus, you listed what are essentially pro-wrestling moves in dealing with a lighter fighter. Probably not your best choice. Fireman's carry is nice (you can do a particularly cruel hiplock once you dump your opponent on the ground) but a chokeslam?



Actually, I'm surprised you didn't say Guillotine Choke or Armbar really. You missed some simple and effective moves.

[Busomjack]

Mr.Skar wrote...

On a larger opponent you would use arm triangle? You do know the arm triangle is from the top position right? A larger opponent is less likely to be taken by that particular move, as the have more raw power to push around. Plus, you listed what are essentially pro-wrestling moves in dealing with a lighter fighter. Probably not your best choice. Fireman's carry is nice (you can do a particularly cruel hiplock once you dump your opponent on the ground) but a chokeslam?

Actually, I'm surprised you didn't say Guillotine Choke or Armbar really. You missed some simple and effective moves.

Yes, my fighting style is highly unorthodox and that is precisely what makes it so effective.  I use styles which would normally be ineffective and thus give my opponent the impression that I am less experienced than I really am.  A fighter who does not take you seriously is much easier to incapacitate.  My body is almost all muscle so I am able to over power people twice my weight so even larger opponents are easily subdued by my arm triangle.  You know how they say a fight is 50 percent psychological?  It's no joke.  The same can be said of just about any athletic event.
I didn't miss any those moves you mentioned.  I was giving you an example of some of my preferred techniques rather than a complete run down.  That would take far too long to list in it's entirety.
I have been practing professional wrestling ever since I saw WWF for the first time in the late 80's.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mai 2010 - 08:34 .

[Mr.Skar]

So again we are back to you training yourself. Or did you learn pro-wrestling from one of your nameless masters? Moves that only require strength (chokeslam) are useless against real grapplers, again proving my point that you don't spar against other TRAINED grapplers. At all. Also, asking what moves you used most shows more about your style than you think, as not all submissions fit everyones game.

[YR_Lim]

Let's for a second assume that you are not trolling...

Busomjack wrote...

Mr.Skar wrote...

Like what? Trained with who and where. Be specific please, I'm curious. In your wrestling, what submissions do you use most? You can't just say "I have trained in many things" and leave it at that, the what and where is important as well.

The one's who have taught me would prefer to stay anonymous.
As for my wrestling, it depends on what kind of opponent I'm facing.  For larger opponents, I will try to subdue them using a basic arm triangle choke since they often won't have much range of motion with the rest of their limbs and will be at my mercy but for medium and smaller opponents I will not just focus on defeating them but also on demoralizing them using particularly humilliating holds like the Fireman's carry before proceeding with a slam or powerbomb.
I have extremely powerful arms so I usually go for chokeslams as I find going for the neck is a great way to subdue even strong opponents.
Still, like I said I am freestyle and can switch from completely different styles of martial arts on a whim.  Wrestling is great in close range combat where you don't have enough limb extention to throw an effect kick or punch. 
When I fight kickboxers they usually try to push themselves away but that leaves them vulnerable to my death grip.

Arm triangle choke is mostly pulled off from groundfighting positions, and the opportunities to pull it off is actually very limited, most experienced fighters are only too aware of the danger of triangle chokes and if you notice it is very hard to find a triangle choke submission in PRIDE or UFC etc.

Assuming a larger opponent not having much range of motion is a assumption that will cost you your fight, against a large opponent, moves like arm-bar will be more effective as his arm can never be as strong as your combined both arms+you back+your leg muscles. Or if you are not good at arm-bars a Kimura is a good move if you see the opportunity which is WAY more common than you getting the chance to do an arm triangle.

No expereinced fighter would waste time on "humiliating" holds or even bother to demoralize them, because there is no point.

If you think Chokeslams are going to work, you obviously watched too much wrestling. Strength is relative, there is always a stronger person.


There are only 2 types of fight,

1. To save yourself from a life threatening situation. which means demoralizing and humiliation and style is pretty much out of the window, as your enemy is probably armed, desperate for $ and your priority is to disable and escape, don't even think about drawing you sword.

2. Professional fights, or sparring etc. You will be fighting in your weight class and experience fighters, not those back alley low life that tries to mug you.  If you attempt the chokeslam them or overpower them with your "extremely powerful arms", you would not last more than a 5 min round as you will be either too gassed to fight or already got your ass handed to you.

If you are not trolling, I would like to see a fight video of yours, without your sword that is. So you don't like guns? and believe that you can deflect A bullet? I say swords are for ******! the body is the ultimate weapon.



Two to the chest, 1 to the head. deflect that.

[Busomjack]

Mr.Skar wrote...

So again we are back to you training yourself. Or did you learn pro-wrestling from one of your nameless masters? Moves that only require strength (chokeslam) are useless against real grapplers, again proving my point that you don't spar against other TRAINED grapplers. At all. Also, asking what moves you used most shows more about your style than you think, as not all submissions fit everyones game.

Wrong.  WWF was my inspiration.  I sought out professional training though at an early age.  When facing larger opponents, I can usually overpower them with my strength but when going up against actual expereinced grapplers(which is rare on the streets) I find the guillotine choke to be the most effective.
If i'm against a real big opponent who is also a grappler I will focus more on pressure point striking, usually on the neck and temple as their other pressure points are usually well guarded by fat/muscle.

[Busomjack]

YR_Lim wrote...


Let's for a second assume that you are not trolling...

Busomjack wrote...

Mr.Skar wrote...

Like what? Trained with who and where. Be specific please, I'm curious. In your wrestling, what submissions do you use most? You can't just say "I have trained in many things" and leave it at that, the what and where is important as well.

The one's who have taught me would prefer to stay anonymous.
As for my wrestling, it depends on what kind of opponent I'm facing.  For larger opponents, I will try to subdue them using a basic arm triangle choke since they often won't have much range of motion with the rest of their limbs and will be at my mercy but for medium and smaller opponents I will not just focus on defeating them but also on demoralizing them using particularly humilliating holds like the Fireman's carry before proceeding with a slam or powerbomb.
I have extremely powerful arms so I usually go for chokeslams as I find going for the neck is a great way to subdue even strong opponents.
Still, like I said I am freestyle and can switch from completely different styles of martial arts on a whim.  Wrestling is great in close range combat where you don't have enough limb extention to throw an effect kick or punch. 
When I fight kickboxers they usually try to push themselves away but that leaves them vulnerable to my death grip.

Arm triangle choke is mostly pulled off from groundfighting positions, and the opportunities to pull it off is actually very limited, most experienced fighters are only too aware of the danger of triangle chokes and if you notice it is very hard to find a triangle choke submission in PRIDE or UFC etc.

Assuming a larger opponent not having much range of motion is a assumption that will cost you your fight, against a large opponent, moves like arm-bar will be more effective as his arm can never be as strong as your combined both arms+you back+your leg muscles. Or if you are not good at arm-bars a Kimura is a good move if you see the opportunity which is WAY more common than you getting the chance to do an arm triangle.

No expereinced fighter would waste time on "humiliating" holds or even bother to demoralize them, because there is no point.

If you think Chokeslams are going to work, you obviously watched too much wrestling. Strength is relative, there is always a stronger person.


There are only 2 types of fight,

1. To save yourself from a life threatening situation. which means demoralizing and humiliation and style is pretty much out of the window, as your enemy is probably armed, desperate for $ and your priority is to disable and escape, don't even think about drawing you sword.

2. Professional fights, or sparring etc. You will be fighting in your weight class and experience fighters, not those back alley low life that tries to mug you.  If you attempt the chokeslam them or overpower them with your "extremely powerful arms", you would not last more than a 5 min round as you will be either too gassed to fight or already got your ass handed to you.

If you are not trolling, I would like to see a fight video of yours, without your sword that is. So you don't like guns? and believe that you can deflect A bullet? I say swords are for ******! the body is the ultimate weapon.



Two to the chest, 1 to the head. deflect that.

I don't fight competitively, I fight as a means of defending myself against my enemies.  There may be limited opportunities for a triangle choke in an oragnized fight setting but when you don't restrict yourself to rules, you find ample opportunity to use all types of submissions, triangle choke included.
By larger opponent, I mean fatter opponent and yes fatter opponents do have shorter range of motion, and I use that weakness to my advantage.
You must not have been in many fights yourself if you discount the importance of demoralizing your enemy.  There is a huge psychological component to any fight and if your enemy thnks you are just toying with him he will lose his cool or he will become discouraged, either way it can be exploited to my advantage as I have done many times.
Also, I would never ever consider posting a video of me displaying my fighting style.  I have many enemies and the last thing I would want to do is give them the chance to study my style, as unorthodox as it may be so they can find a weakness.
I use swords, but I only use it when against an armed opponent.  I maintain a strong sense of honor and sportsmanship.

[Mr.Skar]

Pressure point striking is BS no matter what body type. Sorry, but it is (yes, I do have experience in this). The strike points have too many variables to be used effectively. The only pressure points that work regardless of body type and weight are the rub points on your face (middle of your eye brow, directly under the nose, etc). Besides, an arm triangle is nearly impossible to muscle as you are using the other opponents arm against them. It requires a bit of a set up.



Again you throw out that you trained, but not who with. Why the secrecy?



I'll respond to whatever you type out later. Sleep calls to me.

[Busomjack]

I'm sure my wrestling instructor would respect my discretion when it comes to dropping his name on an internet forum. He doesn't need people googling him, finding personal details on his life, etc. He's nobody terribly famous anyways so it's not like you'd recognize the name.

Pressure point striking is certainly not bs even though there are variables as you mentioned. Generally though just about everyone will feel such as the Golgi organs and temple.

I have disabled many opponents using pressure point striking, it has saved my life even.  So be it, my amaranth is almost done cooking, time for breakfast.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mai 2010 - 09:10 .

[YR_Lim]

Look genius, when you already have the chance to demoralize your opponent you are already on the upperhand, therefore it is the best time to finish the fight with a submission or a K.O. rather than doing some stupid stylish move from WWF that would let him turn the whole thing around and rub it on your face. And when there are no rules, the best move is a kick to the nuts, proven to be effective in any setting, or eye gouging.



Pressure point striking with a grappler...seriously? When he is on side control or mount position ON you, you will not be able to strike anyway near that power to K.O by pressure point when he is on you. And your priority would be to escape his mount or put him in guard position. And if you are mounting him, it is hard enough to ground and pound due to his persistent attempt to bridge and roll/sweep you off and with his arms protecting himself, it would be impossible to strike a precise pressure point and knock him out.



Pressure point is not some "super-secret-ancient-technique", it is just striking nerve clusters and sending a massive shock through the body, and the reason that you dont see this in any professional fighting bouts is not because they have no knowledge or less informed then you are, it is simply because it is not practical when you are up against a real fighter.

[Busomjack]

"Look genius, when you already have the chance to demoralize your opponent you are already on the upperhand, therefore it is the best time to finish the fight with a submission or a K.O. rather than doing some stupid stylish move from WWF that would let him turn the whole thing around and rub it on your face. And when there are no rules, the best move is a kick to the nuts, proven to be effective in any setting, or eye gouging."



Not necessarily. Fighting is very much like playing poker. If you have an ace high, you don't want to display a lack of confidence. No, you want to make it seem like you just grabbed a royal flush. That is what will get your opponent to fold.

Same holds true in wrestling, boxing, and virtually every other competitive sport. You never make it seem like you're losing your cool and you toy with your opponent.

Kicking in the balls or eye gouging would never work on me as I always have my guard up and would never let my opponent get in a good position to make a swift kick to the nads.



Yes, pressure point striking is effective when up against a larger opponent. I'm not talking about when he's on you, I don't let it come to that. I use my superior speed and agility to reach a good pressure point, usually one where I do not have to face directly in front of him such as the temple, scalp, or lower arm.

Through my effective utilization of this ancient art I can disable even the strongest opponent.

I could even kill someone through a pressure point strike since a pressure point can increase blood pressure dramatically and induce a cardiac arrest, I have yet to be forced to have to use this skill fortunately.

Pressure point fighting may not be practical for your average fighter, but for someone of exceptional skill it is a true weapon to be feared.

[YR_Lim]

You said that you do not fight competitively, therefore it would be a kill or be killed situation for you, that is no poker, and I meant that you kicking the untrained person at the nuts, since there are no rules, using an arm triangle in that kind of situation is stupid. And a desperate person enough to attack for food or $ would not give a crap about how confident you are, apparently it is all or nothing for him.



You NEVER toy with you opponent ESPECIALLY in competitive matches, it will without a doubt cost you your victory as the guy you are fighting is most certainly the no-nonsense kind of guy. The main point of a martial art competition is to win and do it fast, but as you said you don't fight the professionals and only use your "skills" to defend yourself, you have never experienced such situations.



Immune to groin strikes and cheap shots? No one on the planet is immune to that, there are always chances to pull those off, if not they would not be called cheapshots. If you can guard yourself 100% you would NEVER be hit anywhere on the body.



"Superior speed and agility" is also relative like strength, you can never be sure your opponent is not fast than you. If you classify people who made a living out of mixed martial arts as the average fighter, you should REALLY try your amazing bullet deflecting agility and 250lbs bench press strength on them and see how you fare, but I guess you can never do that, because you want to keep your undefeatable fighting style as a secret and you will not expose it by fighting against a professional fighter as it would be a waste, since you could already defeat him so easily.