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Busom...you said...as I quoted....



"Meat is actually a bad choice for bpody builders"....



Are you now going to deny that?



You want facts? Ok, the fact that 9 top professional body builders (which I provided you with) with more awards and competetion wins than you can probably imagine would disagree with you.....



So basically, you are saying that professional body builders and weight lifters have no idea what they are doing, yet some random forum user (and again, for an *cough* athlete *cough* such as yourself you do spend an awful amounf of time sat on your backside posting in forums (and not just this one I might add) knows better than they do? Yeah....sure.....cool story....



If I have insulted you....can you please provide evidence (or facts) ?

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Statulos wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

That is what you think Statulos. The fact of the matter is though that rampant exploitation of the weak has created a massive underclass in society that is growing larger by the day.
Society attempts to control the masses by giving them a false glimmer of hope that maybe they can drag themselves out of their squalor. That false promise can only last for so long and eventually the people will revolt against their cruel masters.

I however will not delve any deeper in this for this thread as it is treading dangerously close to politics which I know is not welcome in these forums.

Stuff like that has been said since the times of the Sumerians. Revolt does not take that form and it will not bring the pseudo-feudal society you want.

Besides, true modern day warriors wear badges such as SAS, KS or USMC 1st Recon; not delusional jargorn like yours.


But when you have a society as interconnected as ours through global communication.  The collapse of one super power will result in the collapse of just about every.
Feudal societies were self-sufficient.  If they failed, then life moved on elsewhere.  That is not the case anymore.

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The collapse of one super power will result in the collapse of just about every.




very unlikely.....

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Maviarab wrote...

Busom...you said...as I quoted....

"Meat is actually a bad choice for bpody builders"....

Are you now going to deny that?

You want facts? Ok, the fact that 9 top professional body builders (which I provided you with) with more awards and competetion wins than you can probably imagine would disagree with you.....

So basically, you are saying that professional body builders and weight lifters have no idea what they are doing, yet some random forum user (and again, for an *cough* athlete *cough* such as yourself you do spend an awful amounf of time sat on your backside posting in forums (and not just this one I might add) knows better than they do? Yeah....sure.....cool story....

If I have insulted you....can you please provide evidence (or facts) ?


Those are not facts Mavirab, that is called an anecdotal argument.  It is the same as saying books are bad because Hitler wrote a book.  You don't just name drop in a serious discussion, try focusing on the actual science behind things if you want me to take you seriously.
meat protein is a bad source for body builders because what good is it if you can build your body to look like a tank but you can't even go on the treadmill for longer than 10 minutes without feeling winded?

Your body needs more than just protein to fuel itself for high intensity work outs.  Carbohydrates are your body's preferred fuel source and meat has almost none.  Also, meat has no fiber so it takes a lot of energy just to digest the meat which is energy that could've been spent on your actual work out.

So what better source of protein is there than a source such as Amaranth, Quinoa, lentils etc that are great sources of not just protein, but also complex carbohydrates(for energy) and fiber(for easy digestion)?

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This is the second time you've accused me of lying Tirigon, with the first time being when you claimed I didn't really run a half-marathon.  I proved you wrong and rather than apologize like you should have you just accused me of lying again.
Sorry, but in a serious discussion there must be respect, even with those you dissagree with.


This is not the first time you ignore my point either.....

Well you shouldn´t be surprised people don´t believe you you can deflect bullets.
Come on, don´t tell me you expect anyone to believe that.......

I do also not see how I claimed you lied when I said you run the marathon, re-read:

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Your pictures don´t prove anything;
for all we know you could be posting pictures of someone else claiming
it´s you.
Mind you, I´m not saying that is the case, and I
couldn´t care less anyways, I´m just saying that your "proof" is rather
weak.


And you can´t do anything to prove this wrong.

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"And you can´t do anything to prove this wrong."

I did prove it wrong though. Look at the picture I posted recently that has me holding my bib number and check out my youtube profile videos conveniently named "Kevinbusomjack"(Kevin is my real first name) where I mention posting on this forum in several of my videos.

http://www.youtube.c.../KevinBusomjack

This proves you wrong.

As for your point, I did address it.  You may not have found the answer satisfactory but that is not any concern of mine, especially since you insult me with your accusations that I'm a liar despite posting indisputable proof otherwise.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mai 2010 - 07:00 .


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Busomjack wrote...

"And you can´t do anything to prove this wrong."

I did prove it wrong though. Look at the picture I posted recently that has me holding my bib number and check out my youtube profile videos conveniently named "Kevinbusomjack"(Kevin is my real first name) where I mention posting on this forum in several of my videos.

http://www.youtube.c.../KevinBusomjack

This proves you wrong.

As for your point, I did address it.  You may not have found the answer satisfactory but that is not any concern of mine, especially since you insult me with your accusations that I'm a liar despite posting indisputable proof otherwise.


That's strange, I don't see any videos of you defelecting bullets with your sword...

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Maviarab wrote...

The collapse of one super power will result in the collapse of just about every.


very unlikely.....


It's true though.  As powerful and wonderful as the USA claims to be we would be nothing without the third world slave labour of nations like Mexico, China and Indonesia and likewise those nations wouldn't have much of an economy if it weren't for us.

Just one eocnomic power falling would create a domino effect which would cause economic collapse across the globe.

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bullet deflection with a sword is an art known by very few and a knowledge that few are worthy of.

The very fact that so few believe that bullet deflection is possible is precisely what gives swordsman like me an advantage in such fights. If I were to prove it through a video, I would lose that advantage.

Like I said, I like giving my enemy the idea that he has the advantage.

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Busomjack wrote...
http://www.youtube.c.../KevinBusomjack

This proves you wrong.

As for your point, I did address it.  You may not have found the answer satisfactory but that is not any concern of mine, especially since you insult me with your accusations that I'm a liar despite posting indisputable proof otherwise.


See, my whole point was that you might be posting pics of someone else than you. Posting a video doesn´t prove that wrong.

And again, I´m not claiming this is the case because I can´t know, I´m just saying it´s possible.

The only thing that could prove otherwise would be a objective source, for example a news report about your heroic deeds in which you state you´re the Busomjack on this profiles.

Unfortunately, something like that doesn´t exist.

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If I'm posting pics of someone else then explain how the person in my youtube profile who identifies himself as Busomjack(as seen on my Falcon Northwest video) looks EXACTLY the same as the person in the picture I posted.



You think I have a twin brother?



The burden of proof is on you.

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Busomjack wrote...

bullet deflection with a sword is an art known by very few and a knowledge that few are worthy of.


No it's not, I know tons of people that can do it and I know for a fact that there are several insturctional videos on YouTube already.

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Busomjack wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

The collapse of one super power will result in the collapse of just about every.

very unlikely.....

It's true though.  As powerful and wonderful as the USA claims to be we would be nothing without the third world slave labour of nations like Mexico, China and Indonesia and likewise those nations wouldn't have much of an economy if it weren't for us.

Just one eocnomic power falling would create a domino effect which would cause economic collapse across the globe.


I do actually agree with you that the USA gain much by cheap, illegal workforce.

I do also agree that the fall of a superpower might have consequences for everyone.

I don´t think your idea of a good society is a preferrable alternative, though. You´re basically saying the "weak", that is everyone but you and your sensei apparently, should be slaves to the strong - that is you.

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Busomjack wrote...
You think I have a twin brother?


Yes, he goes by the name of BorschBeet :whistle:

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I'm glad you agree but please drop it. No politics.



The weak would not be "slaves" to the strong. The weak still have vital roles to play in society and thus would be treated with respect they deserve.

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Busomjack wrote...

If I'm posting pics of someone else then explain how the person in my youtube profile who identifies himself as Busomjack(as seen on my Falcon Northwest video) looks EXACTLY the same as the person in the picture I posted.

You think I have a twin brother?

The burden of proof is on you.



Well borschtbeet posted pictures of someone looking exactly like you claiming it was him, yet you claimed to be 2 different people.

SOMETHING isn´t right there.

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Busomjack wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

That is what you think Statulos. The fact of the matter is though that rampant exploitation of the weak has created a massive underclass in society that is growing larger by the day.
Society attempts to control the masses by giving them a false glimmer of hope that maybe they can drag themselves out of their squalor. That false promise can only last for so long and eventually the people will revolt against their cruel masters.

I however will not delve any deeper in this for this thread as it is treading dangerously close to politics which I know is not welcome in these forums.

Stuff like that has been said since the times of the Sumerians. Revolt does not take that form and it will not bring the pseudo-feudal society you want.

Besides, true modern day warriors wear badges such as SAS, KS or USMC 1st Recon; not delusional jargorn like yours.


But when you have a society as interconnected as ours through global communication.  The collapse of one super power will result in the collapse of just about every.
Feudal societies were self-sufficient.  If they failed, then life moved on elsewhere.  That is not the case anymore.

Learn some history and then talk. Feudal systems were not self-suficient as the massive trade routes showed. In fact, a bad harvest in Southern Italy led to a generalized famine in the Republics on the North like Geneva or Venice. Another good example is the shortage of several kinds of sand in Anatolia that made the economy of Florence collapse very often times due to its use as dyers.

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Yes they are facts.

You state that you know better than professional body builders....I state you dont, fact proven that every top wight lifter/body builder in the world eats animal meat for protein. End of argument bud!



Yes your body does, it needs carbs and fat. Fibre comes from other dietry foods. Carbohydrates along with fat is where your energy comes from. Oh and btw, brown rice is actually as good as anything you quoted for carb content along with pasta. You dont need to believe your super fit and healthy by eating foods that make you look clever. The basics are perfectly acceptable 'if you know anything about dietry information'.



Like to point out again, that chicken is the worlds best source of protien, one chicken breast weighing 125grams will give 38.4g of protein and 1.8g of fat (now despite what you believe, the body cannot operate or live with fat, both daily and in reserves, though i guess your going to argue that too).



Top athletes aim for 6-7% body fat (healthy)....body builders will aim for between 4-5% for a competition to make the muscles more defined. Your fat % that you quoted in another of your retarded threads was what....3% iirc? And you think your healthy? Just from your supposed pics of yourself, I can tell your running at approx 7% body fat....



Also, as for your water comment in the other thread, you only neeed to consume so much water if your protein levels are too high, otherwise you can digest WHITE meat perfectly fine, its red meat thats hard to digest. As for your own diet, I would approximate that 30% of what you eat is basically water....so with you apparently drink every day (except say in strenous excersise) then you are actually over dsaturating your body, which as I am sure you do NOT know, is incredibly dangerous.

You will be either be dead by the time your 50, or you eill look 10-15 years older than you actually are (although according to your YOUR pics and supposed age) you already do anyway lol.



Again, I can guarentee Im just as 'healthy' as you are, I may not have the same stamina, but I am just as healthy, as i provide my body with a very wide range off foods and nutrients, both good and BAD, as it s what the bosy needs. Depriving your body of things you 'think' and 'believe' it doesnt need is notvery sensible really is it?



Again, we will both end up the same way.....said that to an old friend once, he was probably more paranoid and stubborn than you about his health and fitness, he had a heart attack at 28......well...I'm still here and eating what I like.....and I certainly dont look my age....in fact....I have 10 years on your supposed age and I look younger than you lol....



So.....so much for healthy living eh? Let me tell you the biggest killer in the world, its stress mate....diet has nothing to do with it.

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 At this point why are we even arguing. His lies have gotten so extreme that he cant even keep them straight.  He is only doing this to get attention. I know his kind, his is the arrogant person at the gym that screams as loud as he can every time he does a rep just to get attention.  the only reason he keeps posting her is not to inspire but to get the reaction he is getting right now. So why don't we just all let this thread die and ignore any other post/threads he put up and soon he will lose interest and go bother the people on the WOW forums. Until then here is a little video to entertain you

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lol Busom...you think China is a lsave world?



Lmao...I hate to burst your patriotic America is the best thing slice bread stereotypicval brainwashed view of the world....



(and apolgies to any Americans I offend here.....but there is a reason your country is the most hated around the world, and its because of people like the op)



But America is on the verge of collapse, its certainly no longer the main super power, and if you believe China is a slave to the mighty US of A your more delusional that i first thought...



China is 10 times more powerful than America will ever hope to be....that is FACT!

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Well, I have never seen Borschtbeet's pictures so I can't determine similar we look. That wasn't the point though.

You claimed I might have posted pictures of someone else which is an extremely offensive accusation considering how hard I worked to achieve that marathon victory.



Yet that person you insinuate isn't really me...



Image IPB



looks identical to me as you see in my youtube videos.



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I think the fact that you have issues with me personally makes it hard for you to accept that I achieved my 1/2 marathon run.


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Busomjack wrote...


looks identical to me as you see in my youtube videos.

Image IPB

I think the fact that you have issues with me personally makes it hard for you to accept that I achieved my 1/2 marathon run.


I have no issues with you.

I have issues with Borschtbeet posting exactly this picture as his own.


Kinda makes one wonder if you aren´t the same after all, doesn´t it?

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Trigon...



We rarely agree mate...but this time...we agree lol :P



And Busom...marathon victory?....you didnt win lmao

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1.

No, that is not a fact.  That is just a list of names, it doesn't contain any science or conrete evidence.  It's merely a claim which isn't even a factual one since there are indeed vegan bodybuilders like Robert Cheeke and Kenneth G. Williams.
The reason it's not widespread is because of outdated misinformation about protein like the kind you're spreading.  You don't have any actual knowledge on the subject which is why all you can do is name drop.

2.

Fiber (or fibre, I guess that is British spelling), is ONLY found in vegetarian foods.  Meat contains NO fiber whatsoever which is a severe disadvantage for easy digestion.  You cannot have a fiber rich diet when the majority of your calories are coming from food that has no fiber in it.
I don't dissagree about brown rice but that is vegetarian so what is your point?

3.

Chicken also has NO fiber meaning it will spend a good several days rotting in your colon as your body struggles to squeeze it out.  Think about it, if you're an athlete wouldn't you want your energy to be concentrated on the actual athletic event you're engaged in?  Meat is slow to digest which is both a waste of energy and a colon cancer risk.  Being that my family has a history of colon cancer that is an especially big concern for me.


4.

6-7 percent isn't bad for men but really a top athlete should have 3-5 percent body fat.  Body fat itself stores estrogen and as such men with higher body fat levels have higher levels of estrogen, thus men should strive for as little body fat as possible.

5.

How is white meat easy to digest if it has no fiber in it?  You do realize that fiber is a essential for proper digestive health, don't you?
What I eat is basically water?  Obviously vegetables do contain minimal amounts of juice which has water but it comes nowhere near to reaching points of overhydration.  Just think about how many carrots you'd have to juice to get one glass of carrot juice.  A rediculous argument.

6.

Didn't you say you're overweight and a smoker?  I think that discredits that claim.

7.

Another anecdotal argument and a fallacy of exceptionalism.  Every rule has exceptions and in the case of your friend, he probably had congenital heart disease meaning he was born with such conditions.

Edit:noticed your political rant.  Just so we're clear, I hold NO allegiance to any political party, ideology or even nation so with that said, do not bring politics into this thread.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mai 2010 - 07:51 .


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Well thats Busomjack for you,  who in one thread (250lbs) went from thinking about martial arts, to refusing to pay the schools because the "honorable ones" don't want money for teaching the "worthy", to becomming a bullet deflecting (it is just not possible, are you such an idiot!) Ninja.

Busom, I have a question, what do you think will happen to you when you die?