I was thinking about this, knowing that Harbinger has the ability to control sentient life, could it be possible that Harbinger is controlling the Council. Which makes sense because they always refute Shepard's evidence of the Reapers.
Harbinger controlling the Council?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:42
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Well, they're not glowing and don't have a grating, evil voice like those controlled by Harbinger, so I don't think so. An interesting thought, though.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:51
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That is an intriguing thought. I never thought of that possibility before.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:56
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i pretty sure harbingers control was limited to the collectors, remember he had FIFTY THOUSAND YEARS to
tinker with them. as for the council, personally im waiting for the other two to realize the turian's an indoctrinated stooge; i mean, c'mon that's almost literally the only explanation i'll take for him such incredible dick.
tinker with them. as for the council, personally im waiting for the other two to realize the turian's an indoctrinated stooge; i mean, c'mon that's almost literally the only explanation i'll take for him such incredible dick.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 01:16
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Bioware can get silly at times, but not this silly.
Turian councilor is just an idiot.
Turian councilor is just an idiot.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 01:19
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Tlazolteotl wrote...
Bioware can get silly at times, but not this silly.
Turian councilor is just an idiot.
Hey, hey, HEY! You leave him alone. He's got airquotes!
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 01:21
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Ya I can't see this happening really, mostly we have seen Harbinger take control of Collector Drones and not of any being with intelligence (I am assuming the collectors only understand basic orders since they were cannibalized from Protheans and have no real intellect) if they could it would be more likely to take control of Shepard or someone close to Shepard to kill him/her.
That's why the Disconnect button in my Normandy gets overused
Turian Councillor: Shepard did you cut me off?
Shepard: I don't know did it happen like this? <Disconnect>
janeym27 wrote...
Tlazolteotl wrote...
Bioware
can get silly at times, but not this silly.
Turian councilor is just
an idiot.
Hey, hey, HEY! You leave him alone. He's got
airquotes!
That's why the Disconnect button in my Normandy gets overused
Turian Councillor: Shepard did you cut me off?
Shepard: I don't know did it happen like this? <Disconnect>
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 01:25
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Shepard: "No" ...wolfsite wrote...
Turian Councillor: Shepard did you cut me off?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 01:28
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StinkyNelkin wrote...
inb4 Sten says "No"
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:03
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foolish replica wrote...
i pretty sure harbingers control was limited to the collectors, remember he had FIFTY THOUSAND YEARS to
tinker with them. as for the council, personally im waiting for the other two to realize the turian's an indoctrinated stooge; i mean, c'mon that's almost literally the only explanation i'll take for him such incredible dick.
And so the secret purpose of the Keepers is revealed (remeber Babylon 5)! Did you honestly think they just took care of the Citadel? MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:16
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I'm going with no. If Harbinger could do that, why not just indoctrinate Shep save a lot of time.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:28
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I don't think Harbinger and, by extension, the Reapers are controlling them... I think it's the Citadel. Rather than actively controlling them or actively indoctrinating the council, the Reapers are passively indoctrinating them via the Citadel (Maybe indoctrinating isn't the -best- word). The Reapers have designed the relay network so the Citadel is ALWAYS the seat of government. Why wouldn't they have put a fail safe in their that passively 'pushes' ideas about the Reapers out of the bureaucracy's head? It would explain why so many others around the galaxy (Can't remember any, but I know there are AT LEAST a few non-Citadelians around the galaxy who believe in the Reapers, probably some specifically on your team. Many of them don't really have reason to believe in the Reapers) believes in the Reapers, yet no one on the Citadel believes in them. Anyone who spends enough time on the Citadel would not believe in the Reapers because some sort of software or program in the Citadel pushes it into there brain that the Reapers CAN'T be real. Shepard hasn't spent enough time on the Citadel yet. As I recall, ME1 was the first time he went to the Citadel, and honestly, he doesn't REALLY spend enough time there in EITHER games to allow for an indoctrination type of effect.
Of course, this wouldn't explain why Anderson still believes in the Reapers, but... Aside from him, I think that's a pretty sound theory. Perhaps there's some sort of caveat? Like, it affects different races differently? (Turians, and species similar, in particular get angered at the idea of quote-on-quote 'Reapers', whereas humans have an easier time resisting the effects...? Humans are also, apparently, more genetically 'diverse'. I mean, not using that as proof... But rather, trying to say, humans are different. The Reapers may not have accounted for the possibility of something so... Human?) Other than that... I believe it's a relatively sound theory.
Can anyone point out potential other information possibly disproving it?
Of course, this wouldn't explain why Anderson still believes in the Reapers, but... Aside from him, I think that's a pretty sound theory. Perhaps there's some sort of caveat? Like, it affects different races differently? (Turians, and species similar, in particular get angered at the idea of quote-on-quote 'Reapers', whereas humans have an easier time resisting the effects...? Humans are also, apparently, more genetically 'diverse'. I mean, not using that as proof... But rather, trying to say, humans are different. The Reapers may not have accounted for the possibility of something so... Human?) Other than that... I believe it's a relatively sound theory.
Can anyone point out potential other information possibly disproving it?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:32
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They're too irritating to be indoctrinated. I am convinced of this logic.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:41
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anyone give any thought to the fact that anderson tells you that pieces of sovereign rained down on the citdel?
possible wide spread low level indoctrination?
possible wide spread low level indoctrination?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:45
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The Turian Councilor controls Harbinger
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:49
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Wasn't the new normandy partially built from old soveriegn, or did I imagine that?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:50
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No, if they did they'd just get the council to activate the Citadels Mass Relay.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:51
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janeym27 wrote...
Wasn't the new normandy partially built from old soveriegn, or did I imagine that?
EDI has some Reaper cyberwarfar hardware as a part of her system and Garruses cannon upgrades are based on reaper tech, but otherwise no.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 02:58
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foolish replica wrote...
anyone give any thought to the fact that anderson tells you that pieces of sovereign rained down on the citdel?
possible wide spread low level indoctrination?
Weren't all those pieces mostly destroyed?
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 03:00
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Harbinger controlling the council?
We have dismissed these claims.
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Posté 01 mai 2010 - 03:00
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Landline wrote...
janeym27 wrote...
Wasn't the new normandy partially built from old soveriegn, or did I imagine that?
EDI has some Reaper cyberwarfar hardware as a part of her system and Garruses cannon upgrades are based on reaper tech, but otherwise no.
Ah. That's where I got that from. The rest must have been the wine (Clan Vakarian tradition, y'know. Very important stuff)
Although, I can't help but think that will be significant at some point.
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