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#1
Downbyzed

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-Spoilers-
I got the ps3 version. During the power struggle in Orzammar Dulin wanted me to fight in the proving grounds for lord harrowmont while Vartag wanted me to convice others to vote for Dhelen. I think the problem started beacuse i signed up at the proving grounds as Lord Harrowmont's champion but then headed into the deep roads (i was actually looking for mayaj? spelling there.. who ended up being right there in the proving halls behind some door i didnt see) and showed the papers to Dace when i saved him.

Anway... what happened was that i finished Vartags side instead of Dulin's. Now they both think i'm working for the opposite side and they both want me to spy on each other by talking to either Dhelen or Harrowmont. The problem is they wont let me talk to them!. They just keep sending me back and forth in an endless loop.

rough re-enactment:

Dulin/Vartag: "did you talk to Dhelen/Harrowmont?"
Me: "no"
Dulin/Vartag: "well dont come back till you do!"

I hope theres a fix... i use 4 save slots but the only viable one would set me 10 hours back :(

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Downbyzed

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bump...



nothing?

#3
Dei3

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Bumping for good.

Have same problem here!

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Dei3

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BUMP AGAIN!

Bioware needs to see this, seriously.

#5
Downbyzed

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I know!



I don't know if its been discussed already in another post since search is still deactivated.



In any case i went back to my old save and started from there. Realizing how much 10 hours actually set me back got me extremely pissed. I'm pretty close to where i used to be though and most of that anger has subsided... but still, Bioware, FIX THIS.



Hopefully it wil be fixed in a patch.

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bezerker69

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same problem here... anyone found a fix... I am way deep to replay... this is bs

#7
Paintbalisgood4u

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This problem has been brought up a bunch of times. No word from Bioware or EA

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peter mobius

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damn I'm 60 hours in done everysingle other quest in the game (almost) and am now stuck in Orzammar from playing both sides of the king line. 60 freakin hours with my last save before Orzammar at leas 20 hours ago...

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xSpartan114x

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same issue except i did both promissary notes and fought the proving to the championship round. now neither dulin nor vartag will even speak to me. way around it?

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liromi

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I have Dragon Age fo the PC and 2 Major problems! My characters are stuck in nitefall in Redcliffe village after all undead are killed. I cannot get to the castle or out of the area. Also every time I try to get support it sends me only to the social page

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Adsa16

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Same problem here in orzammar. is there any way to skip the dwarves?

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zebrastealer

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This is BS, I've got the same problem, probably 25 hours of game play since I was last in Orizmar and couldn't figure out how to continue so I moved on. Bioware this is pathetic, you should have realized that if two quests are exclusive you can't permit someone to start both of them. I am really disappointed in this game - it is great in some ways, but a big let down in others. A bug like this really breaks the camels back.

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Same problem here, if it becomes an issue at the end, I will be ultra disapointed. This must be a P0 bug for the devs !

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I did something similar - started both quests initially, but decided to fight in the arena for Harrowmont. When Vartag confronted me, I told him I would spy on Harrowmont for him. He told me to tell him what Harrowmont wants me to do next.



After I talk to Harrowmont, my journal says to tell Vartag about it, but doesn't say where he is. He's not where he was when I last talked to him (Proving Grounds).



Why does the game force the conversation with Vartag after the fight and have him ask you what Harrowmont wants you to do next, when there's no possible way you could have seen Harrowmont before the conversation? Why doesn't the journal tell me where Vartag is, when it says I should speak to him? And where the hell IS Vartag? This is very frustrating.



Now I can't get to the section of the palace I need to in order to assassinate an ambassador for the Crows.

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Bump, also got sam problem, any updates on how to fix it WITHOUT restarting the game?

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Me too. Pretty severe.

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Tankenminnet

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I don't know of a solution but loading an old savegame or restarting completely. Surely someone using the toolset could force you one way or the other... maybe?

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If it's bugged, then there's no way to both kill the Ambassador for the Crows and also kill everyone in the Proving? I just want to kill as many people as possible. Is that so wrong?

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Downbyzed wrote...

-Spoilers-
I got the ps3 version. During the power struggle in Orzammar Dulin wanted me to fight in the proving grounds for lord harrowmont while Vartag wanted me to convice others to vote for Dhelen. I think the problem started beacuse i signed up at the proving grounds as Lord Harrowmont's champion but then headed into the deep roads (i was actually looking for mayaj? spelling there.. who ended up being right there in the proving halls behind some door i didnt see) and showed the papers to Dace when i saved him.

Anway... what happened was that i finished Vartags side instead of Dulin's. Now they both think i'm working for the opposite side and they both want me to spy on each other by talking to either Dhelen or Harrowmont. The problem is they wont let me talk to them!. They just keep sending me back and forth in an endless loop.

rough re-enactment:

Dulin/Vartag: "did you talk to Dhelen/Harrowmont?"
Me: "no"
Dulin/Vartag: "well dont come back till you do!"

I hope theres a fix... i use 4 save slots but the only viable one would set me 10 hours back :(


You are in the PC not the Ps3 tech forums.. so unfortunately none of the fixes I have will work for you ;(

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TallBearNC

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http://social.biowar...58/index/275974 has scripts that are in game that will fix or bypass you past bugged quests and plots, etc

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Adsa16

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oh wow, thanks for that tallbear :)

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Ok. When you follow up with Harrowmont and do the Jarvia quest, there's an option after the battle to plant some papers in Jarvia's "personal effects" that somehow links her to Harrowmont. Seems like there's a missing plot sequence there that's supposed to explain that option, but it was there for me.



After I planted the papers, I went back to the royal palace and found the door to the main section unlocked, allowing me to find both the Ambassador and Vartag. I think you're still capable of playing both sides at that point, but I haven't seen what happens if you don't plant the papers.



So it looks like the bug was some sort of missing conversation, but not fatal to the plotline.

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anarex

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stuck on 360, no word of any help wtf

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Is there any new word on this?



I have exactly the same thing. The earliest save I have is 20+ hrs before and I have gone between both Vartag & Dulin and talked to everyone in Orzammar.



Has anyone tried the debug script in the mentioned thread to bypass this?

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DarthStassen

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Same problem here.



@suiciety: I tried the debug script but it didn't work on my system. Maybe because I use the german version of the game.