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[AlanC9]

purplesunset wrote...

They are being held hostage by EA. They get their mountain dew allowance only once per week (doritos are reserved for holidays), hence they have no energy to make a patch after so much work on DLC's.

Really? I always thought we had to pay for DLC with points because the point/dew exchange ratio is better than using cash. Isn't that why Microsoft set up the system?

[wanderon]

purplesunset wrote...

wanderon wrote...

Indeed if you don't want to feed the money machine why are you buying games or expensive computers capable to run them to begin with? Why not go for a walk? Take up bird watching? Volunteer your spare time to help those less fortunate?

Tired of the high price of oil? Sell your car and buy a bike?

Sorry but I don't see the whole "DLC is just a money machine" stance you usually see around the forums as being fueled by a wish to lessen moneys grip on society. To me they seem more driven by the sort of entitlement mentality that says you shouldn't have to pay for anything and an almost total lack of understanding of how business works in the real world. (and little or no desire to learn anything about it)

I understand the point you're making, and it's certainly true for many  of the people who whine about DLC.

But you have to be careful with that word entitlement.  It goes both ways. Producers could have a sense of entitlement too. "I deserve to get more for the least amount of effort possible"

I thought I read an article somewhere (I know, this could not be any more vague) which essentially said that the more people get, the more they feel that they are entitled to more.

Well the difference between a business and a consumer when it comes to entitlement is the consumer is the boss of himself and can think and act in almost any way he pleases where as the business - especially one large enough to be producing major CRPGs for worldwide distribution generally has an extremely complex formula for making decisions about product pricing and all of the other decisions that must be made in the course of producing a product.
 
This almost always involves numerous different people and often entire departments full of people that come together to make any such decision. The chance of the sort of attitude you are portraying in the bolded statement above being the end result of that process is pretty much nil I think.

Thats the trouble with people trying to talk about corporations and even smaller businesses as if they were a single minded person instead of the large group of individuals that they actually are claiming they are greedy or don't care about their customers or they are the evil incarnate - it makes nice prose or political rhetoric but it's mostly just fantasy with almost no relationship to the reality of what they are or how they work.

[AlanC9]

Suddenly I find myself thinking of Gathering of Developers. Remember them?