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[Shallowain]

Just great.



Bioware, you know that you become a total laughing matter with your announcements? First you announce this epic fail you call Bioware bazar to "thank" your community where about 80-90% of said community is excluded and now you you anounced an "exciting new DLC" that consists of 2 helmets and one pre-order armour that actually costs money?



Are you taking part in an experiment how long it takes to drive away a a fanbase or did your MBAs just get completely nuts?



I am definitely NOT going to get this, I am NOT paying for items I already have. ( I have Terminus gear and Inferno armor).



If you continue with this asinine DLC and "community" policies it takes probably not even 6 Months until I can't be bothered to give a flying **** about your company anymore. That saying, I own almost every (PC) game you ever made since Shattered Steel and except for some items all DLC for ME1, ME2 and Dragon age.



And Just for your interest, I know there is a crack to override the DLC authentification. I don't have it, I'm just sayin...

[hkstuned]

EatChildren wrote...

Burdokva wrote...

I'd still appreciate if a dev would enlighten me how exactly is it fair to pay for something I already paid for with pre-order, was marketed as "exclusive", and in the long run is inferior to the one released later. So?

Its not fair and there's no way to justify this as fair. Its a casebook example of product release for maximum profit.

They'll release most, if not all, of the bonus/pre-order DLC in packs like this. As someone earlier pointed out, being so stretched out will force everybody who wants the bonus stuff to buy all the packs, spending the maximum amount of money. It also allows them to pack in more content to make it seem a higher value to those with nothing, yet screw over those who already have part of it. In this case, the Inferno Armor was finished before ME2 hit stores, so they're got a pack of three items of which they only had to build two of since release.

As I said, they'll do it with the rest of the stuff too. Terminus Armor? It will be alone in a pack with one or two extra items as well. Incisor Rifle? Same thing. It will be interesting to see how they do the Collectors stuff, if its released. Stretch it over two packs, or release a three item pack with the Collectors rifle and armor included, with only one 'new' item, screwing people over further?

So yeah, ultimately this is not a fair situation or package and there's no viable way for it to be argued as such. Its a screwy way to deal with fans and pretty poor form on BioWare's behalf. I'm not even whining about it being items, the price, lack of story DLC, or anything like that. Its simply unfair to package in something many people already own and give no option to remove it.

Bad call BioWare. I expected better.

Two letters... E and A... Since they had their hands in the pie everything seems to be about money and not about makin the best game known to men...

[Kajan451]

AnathamaDye wrote...
I don't care if it costs a few bucks, I'm still going to get it.  People need to realize that's how it's going to be from now on.

Only because some people pay for it. But really, i don't care. I just don't get the whole Cerberus deal. They said they wanted to do it for people who paid for the game, instead to pirate it. Which is fine with me... but whats the point in releasing apperance DLCs when it could be used for the cerberus Network?

Its not like this nonsense would make me replay the game another time or like i would need it in ME3.

As long as there are people with to much money on their hands to pay for stuff like that, it won't stop. But that doesn't mean i have to join in and buy crap like that.

I'll never pay for anything that has no game value. Meaning that is no new missions or some new story.

And Missions... better don't bother with anything that has less than 6 hours content. Money doesn't grow on Trees and i am to stingy to spend money on "decals".

[sonsonthebia07]

Shallowain wrote...

Just great.

Bioware, you know that you become a total laughing matter with your announcements? First you announce this epic fail you call Bioware bazar to "thank" your community where about 80-90% of said community is excluded and now you you anounced an "exciting new DLC" that consists of 2 helmets and one pre-order armour that actually costs money?

Are you taking part in an experiment how long it takes to drive away a a fanbase or did your MBAs just get completely nuts?

I am definitely NOT going to get this, I am NOT paying for items I already have. ( I have Terminus gear and Inferno armor).

If you continue with this asinine DLC and "community" policies it takes probably not even 6 Months until I can't be bothered to give a flying **** about your company anymore. That saying, I own almost every (PC) game you ever made since Shattered Steel and except for some items all DLC for ME1, ME2 and Dragon age.

And Just for your interest, I know there is a crack to override the DLC authentification. I don't have it, I'm just sayin...

I somewhat agree here. I mean, was it really necessary to hype up such a small and purely cosmetic DLC at all? I have no issues with these types of DLC, but from the hype I was expecting announced mission DLC or something.

So I guess you can say that I am rather disappointed.

[hark659]

2 Buck for those pointless things? Why not free? 

Bioware,  are you making fool of yourself?

[TheTrooper1138]

Kajan451 wrote...

Only because some people pay for it. But really, i don't care. I just don't get the whole Cerberus deal. They said they wanted to do it for people who paid for the game, instead to pirate it. Which is fine with me... but whats the point in releasing apperance DLCs when it could be used for the cerberus Network?

And the funny part is that you get ALL DLC on certain "pirate" sites, even those pre-order ones that you can't even buy now... well done BioWare, again those who paid for the game get less content than those who don't! :innocent:

[EatChildren]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

And the funny part is that you get ALL DLC on certain "pirate" sites, even those pre-order ones that you can't even buy now... well done BioWare, again those who paid for the game get less content than those who don't! :innocent:

This is a very silly comparison, as with that attitude BioWare should give Mass Effect 2 away for free full-stop, as should all developers give away their games.

[bas273]

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

You should be glad that Bioware is creating any new DLC's at all. If you don't like these new items, don't buy it. Personally, I want every addition to the ME2 universe so I'm gonna get it.

[EatChildren]

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.
You should be glad that Bioware is creating any new DLC's at all. If you don't like these new items, don't buy it. Personally, I want every addition to the ME2 universe so I'm gonna get it.

Read the goddamn thread.

[cruc1al]

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

Are you serious? How do you justify that people who have paid for inferno armor have to pay for it again if they want the two helmets?

[Krigwin]

Zinoviy wrote...
It seems to me it's you guys who don't get the point. If you already have the CN, why are you here complaining? Who cares, you already have the armor, right? All I hear about is how the armor is mediocre anyway, covers the face, etc. If it's so bad why do you care if they release it to others for a price? It makes no sense.

...Are you by chance a sociopath, or just 12 years old? "Wow guys I got totally ripped off but at least I got what I wanted, thus I don't care if other people get ripped off too!" seriously wat

I'm seeing a lot of the same, tired, shortsighted arguments again, so it's time for another lesson with Professor Krigwin:

1. "But Professor, it's only $2! That's so cheap, it's like the price of one [insert product here]! Clearly, it's insignificant!"

Me: Ah well students, it just so happens I'm a multi-billionaire. $2000 is cheap for me, that's like the price of a cheap suit, and I go through five suits a week. I think video games should be sold for $2000 each, what do you think?

The point is, the price does not matter, it's the principle behind it. Microtransactions is a sleazy, underhanded business practice that is fast replacing the old model of actual quality, full-length expansive content. The pricing seems low, but this is until you grow up and realize you're not the center of the universe, and thus realize there are other people on Earth besides you, and some of them also happen to purchase video games.

In fact, the entire purpose behind microtransactions is to deliberately price each item low, to fool the consumers into thinking that it is good value and not an enormous waste of money. This works so well because a lot of video game consumers apparently have the IQ of chimpanzees and don't realize value is a relative concept. If I try to sell you a cup of my urine, it doesn't matter if I'm asking for 20 thousand dollars or 20 cents, it's still not worth the price.

There's actually a psychological effect behind this called the money illusion (http://www.pnas.org/...06/13/5025.full) that basically states your brain is stupid and has a hard time understanding that six $1 bills is more money than one $5 bill. This is why strippers accept tips in singles and why most slot machines take nickels or quarters instead of singles now. By making the price arbitrarily low, your brain is fooled into thinking its not spending a lot of money, when in fact once the purchases ramp up, you've spent more money than you probably would have if it came at a high cost to begin with, because then you would've rationalized it was too much money and not worth the value.

It should come to no surprise that the pioneer of this deceptive and exploitative practice is EA, the benefactors of Bioware now. So basically, when you buy low-priced DLC, you're basically telling EA, "Yes I'm too dumb to see what you're doing, please keep doing it to me, here let me help you by unzipping my pants and bending over."

2. "But Professor! It's okay if I don't do it! After all, why does it matter to me if other people do it?"

Me: Contrary to what you may believe and what your parents and the whole of American elementary-grade education told you, children, you're not actually better or worth more than any other person. In fact, in great numbers, other people are worth a whole lot more than you, especially when it comes to economics.

Why does it matter what other people do? Well, because, if you care about consumers' rights and the state of the industry, these other people are deciding the future of the industry for you. Let me use another analogy: let's say you live in a village where the farmers sell you milk, either in one gallon for $5, or a half-gallon for $4. Clearly, it's more value to buy the whole gallons. Unfortunately, every customer is only limited to buying a single whole gallon per period of time, and unlimited half-gallons.

Now, you're fine with just buying just the whole gallon everytime, but other villagers happen to want or need more milk than you. Some of them realize it's a bad value to buy the half-gallons but don't care, others are so rich it doesn't matter to them that the half-gallons are overpriced. Gradually, the number of people buying half-gallons increase. Eventually, the farmers realize they can make much more money per amount of milk off the half-gallons than the whole-gallons, and stop selling the whole-gallons altogether. Now, you, the original villager, are basically forced to buy the overpriced half-gallons even though you never supported the practice to begin with, simply because of what the other villagers did.

To say that it "doesn't matter what other people do" shows a level of myopia and lack of critical thinking that is frankly, quite disturbing. It doesn't matter if any one individual consumer sees this DLC as a deceptive practice and refuses to support it, it only matters if all the consumers refuses to support it. Otherwise, the message is still being sent to the industry that this practice works and is profitable, and they will continue, and eventually the old models that were better for the consumers to begin with (like, actual expansion packs) will disappear.

[legend of kane]

For me personally, i skipped the alternate pack and i'm skipping this pack too. I will pay for

missions, I WILL NOT PAY FOR CLOTHS AND ARMOR.



At this point in ME 2's life span, i am waiting for after MQ missions, more Hammerhead missions,

anything that doesn't require me paying to put on another helmet or make some of my team look

only slightly different with sunglasses.

[bjdbwea]

There should be a serious discussion about the Cerberus network too. So far it's been pretty useless, and I doubt there'll be more to come. If that's all they have to prevent people from buying second-hand, I doubt it'll work again.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 04 mai 2010 - 07:24 .

[cruc1al]

Krigwin wrote...

In fact, the entire purpose behind microtransactions is to deliberately price each item low, to fool the consumers into thinking that it is good value and not an enormous waste of money. This works so well because a lot of video game consumers apparently have the IQ of chimpanzees and don't realize value is a relative concept. If I try to sell you a cup of my urine, it doesn't matter if I'm asking for 20 thousand dollars or 20 cents, it's still not worth the price.

This a million times.

Modifié par cruc1al, 04 mai 2010 - 07:26 .

[TheTrooper1138]

EatChildren wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

And the funny part is that you get ALL DLC on certain "pirate" sites, even those pre-order ones that you can't even buy now... well done BioWare, again those who paid for the game get less content than those who don't! :innocent:

This is a very silly comparison, as with that attitude BioWare should give Mass Effect 2 away for free full-stop, as should all developers give away their games.

Since the original point was that the CN was there to reward players for buying the game new, it is not. Because even if you bought the game new, pre-ordered it even, you still miss out on some content that you could easily just have "pirated"... therefore the whole CN/DLC concept is again just another way of ripping off loyal customers... well, I will not support this bs any longer, I won't buy ANY future DLC until BioWare stops this crap and gets back to a reasonable customer-friendly policy without trying to rip us off for every little piece of garbage any modder could have made in a matter of days...

[legend of kane]

Eh, the Cerberus Network makes it a pain to download anything, the whole signing in and out is

a royal pain, i hope they drop the network for ME 3... But I'm sure EA will come up with another

way to squeeze every penny out of us.

[cruc1al]

legend of kane wrote...

Eh, the Cerberus Network makes it a pain to download anything, the whole signing in and out is
a royal pain, i hope they drop the network for ME 3... But I'm sure EA will come up with another
way to squeeze every penny out of us.

What signing in and out

[GothamLord]

cruc1al wrote...

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

Are you serious? How do you justify that people who have paid for inferno armor have to pay for it again if they want the two helmets?

Who paid for the Inferno Armor?? The people that got the code off ebay?  No one paid *extra* for the Inferno code! It was a pre-order bonus.   Pre-orders are typically $5 downpayments to reserve a copy and guarentee a sale not an extra cost to the game.

Should the other two helment items be free and in a seperate pack? Yes.   Does BioWare/EA have the right to offer the other pre-order items at cost now since most people didnt go out and reserve multiple copies? Yes

[legend of kane]

cruc1al wrote...

legend of kane wrote...

Eh, the Cerberus Network makes it a pain to download anything, the whole signing in and out is
a royal pain, i hope they drop the network for ME 3... But I'm sure EA will come up with another
way to squeeze every penny out of us.

What signing in and out

When you download something from CN on the 360, you have to start the game, then on the game menu click CN, click
on the dlc item, then go back to your 360 dash board wait for it to tell you the dlc is complete, then start the game again.
Its a pain.

[cruc1al]

GothamLord wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

Are you serious? How do you justify that people who have paid for inferno armor have to pay for it again if they want the two helmets?

Who paid for the Inferno Armor?? The people that got the code off ebay?  No one paid *extra* for the Inferno code! It was a pre-order bonus.   Pre-orders are typically $5 downpayments to reserve a copy and guarentee a sale not an extra cost to the game.

Should the other two helment items be free and in a seperate pack? Yes.   Does BioWare/EA have the right to offer the other pre-order items at cost now since most people didnt go out and reserve multiple copies? Yes

They paid for the inferno armor when they paid for the game. Why should those people pay for less content than people who didn't bother to pre-order? It's called a pre-order bonus for a reason.

[omnitremere]

Krigwin wrote...

Zinoviy wrote...
It seems to me it's you guys who don't get the point. If you already have the CN, why are you here complaining? Who cares, you already have the armor, right? All I hear about is how the armor is mediocre anyway, covers the face, etc. If it's so bad why do you care if they release it to others for a price? It makes no sense.

...Are you by chance a sociopath, or just 12 years old? "Wow guys I got totally ripped off but at least I got what I wanted, thus I don't care if other people get ripped off too!" seriously wat

I'm seeing a lot of the same, tired, shortsighted arguments again, so it's time for another lesson with Professor Krigwin:

1. "But Professor, it's only $2! That's so cheap, it's like the price of one [insert product here]! Clearly, it's insignificant!"

Me: Ah well students, it just so happens I'm a multi-billionaire. $2000 is cheap for me, that's like the price of a cheap suit, and I go through five suits a week. I think video games should be sold for $2000 each, what do you think?

The point is, the price does not matter, it's the principle behind it. Microtransactions is a sleazy, underhanded business practice that is fast replacing the old model of actual quality, full-length expansive content. The pricing seems low, but this is until you grow up and realize you're not the center of the universe, and thus realize there are other people on Earth besides you, and some of them also happen to purchase video games.

In fact, the entire purpose behind microtransactions is to deliberately price each item low, to fool the consumers into thinking that it is good value and not an enormous waste of money. This works so well because a lot of video game consumers apparently have the IQ of chimpanzees and don't realize value is a relative concept. If I try to sell you a cup of my urine, it doesn't matter if I'm asking for 20 thousand dollars or 20 cents, it's still not worth the price.

There's actually a psychological effect behind this called the money illusion (http://www.pnas.org/...06/13/5025.full) that basically states your brain is stupid and has a hard time understanding that six $1 bills is more money than one $5 bill. This is why strippers accept tips in singles and why most slot machines take nickels or quarters instead of singles now. By making the price arbitrarily low, your brain is fooled into thinking its not spending a lot of money, when in fact once the purchases ramp up, you've spent more money than you probably would have if it came at a high cost to begin with, because then you would've rationalized it was too much money and not worth the value.

It should come to no surprise that the pioneer of this deceptive and exploitative practice is EA, the benefactors of Bioware now. So basically, when you buy low-priced DLC, you're basically telling EA, "Yes I'm too dumb to see what you're doing, please keep doing it to me, here let me help you by unzipping my pants and bending over."

2. "But Professor! It's okay if I don't do it! After all, why does it matter to me if other people do it?"

Me: Contrary to what you may believe and what your parents and the whole of American elementary-grade education told you, children, you're not actually better or worth more than any other person. In fact, in great numbers, other people are worth a whole lot more than you, especially when it comes to economics.

Why does it matter what other people do? Well, because, if you care about consumers' rights and the state of the industry, these other people are deciding the future of the industry for you. Let me use another analogy: let's say you live in a village where the farmers sell you milk, either in one gallon for $5, or a half-gallon for $4. Clearly, it's more value to buy the whole gallons. Unfortunately, every customer is only limited to buying a single whole gallon per period of time, and unlimited half-gallons.

Now, you're fine with just buying just the whole gallon everytime, but other villagers happen to want or need more milk than you. Some of them realize it's a bad value to buy the half-gallons but don't care, others are so rich it doesn't matter to them that the half-gallons are overpriced. Gradually, the number of people buying half-gallons increase. Eventually, the farmers realize they can make much more money per amount of milk off the half-gallons than the whole-gallons, and stop selling the whole-gallons altogether. Now, you, the original villager, are basically forced to buy the overpriced half-gallons even though you never supported the practice to begin with, simply because of what the other villagers did.

To say that it "doesn't matter what other people do" shows a level of myopia and lack of critical thinking that is frankly, quite disturbing. It doesn't matter if any one individual consumer sees this DLC as a deceptive practice and refuses to support it, it only matters if all the consumers refuses to support it. Otherwise, the message is still being sent to the industry that this practice works and is profitable, and they will continue, and eventually the old models that were better for the consumers to begin with (like, actual expansion packs) will disappear.

But what about people like me who purchase the DLC to support the company? I've played ME2 at least 20 times at this point.  I've gotten WAYYYYY more value out of it than the 60 bucks I put down.  Not to mention the free DLC that Bioware has already released.  So yeah maybe it doesn't make much sense to purchase an appearance pack or a couple of headsets.  But I do it because of how much I love Bioware and it's games.  And I don't believe that makes me stupid.  And yes I would definitely prefer full expansion packs but Bioware has already pretty much made a commitment to doing that.  They've done it with Awakening which I thoroughly enjoyed and they've already hinted at a similar announcement for ME2.  Thusfar as far as I'm concerned Bioware has done right by me.  And this is from somebody who purchased a second copy of the game just so I could have the inferno armor.  So I'm definitely not particular pleased that not only did it suck but it's being packaged into another DLC pack.  But that doesn't change how I feel about supporting Bioware.

[The RPGenius]

I012345 wrote...
But what about people like me who purchase the DLC to support the company? I've played ME2 at least 20 times at this point.  I've gotten WAYYYYY more value out of it than the 60 bucks I put down.  Not to mention the free DLC that Bioware has already released.  So yeah maybe it doesn't make much sense to purchase an appearance pack or a couple of headsets.  But I do it because of how much I love Bioware and it's games.

Buddy, Bioware is not a starving company here.  They will not go bankrupt if you don't purchase most of their DLC packages.  In fact, they won't go bankrupt if NO ONE does, because they put out wildly successful games.  Buying a DLC like this is not so much supporting the company as it is supporting the company's marketing decision to rip off gamers who supported the company through pre-orders, and hype up a pointless add-on of meaningless trinkets rather than try selling an add-on with something of substance, like new missions and such.  They will not go broke either way, but they probably WILL go where the money is.  So if you WANT them to keep putting out inconsequential DLCs that negate previous support gamers gave the company with no apology, then yes, DO buy this.  Because THAT is what buying this supports.

And understand, I am a gamer who ALSO wants to support Bioware.  I love this series to death, Dragon Age Origins is very good, and KotOR1 was great.  I like Bioware and I want them to succeed.  But I like Bioware for the GOOD decisions they make and the WORTHWHILE content they provide, whether free or for a cost.  If I buy this DLC, which, again, offers me nothing substantial, just a hat, laser glasses, and armor that I may or may not already have, I am encouraging the company to take steps toward being one that I WON'T want to support.  I largely refuse to buy SquareEnix games nowadays because they've proven to have little to no artistic integrity, few ideas or writers left with worthwhile ideas, and are fully content with ripping off their audience in any way possible rather than provide a quality product (see: Final Fantasy 10-2, Grandia 3, the endless Final Fantasy 7 spin-offs, endless remakes priced as new games would be, and above all else, their outright stated refusal to make another Chrono Trigger sequel unless the CT remake sells better, even though at the time that they said that it had already outsold several successful recent ORIGINAL games, including some of their own).  If Bioware becomes a company that screws the audience in favor of profitable exploitation, I won't support them.  And in the end, they probably want my future business of buying multiple new games than my current business of buying $2 of nothing.

Modifié par The RPGenius, 04 mai 2010 - 08:18 .

[GothamLord]

cruc1al wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

Are you serious? How do you justify that people who have paid for inferno armor have to pay for it again if they want the two helmets?

Who paid for the Inferno Armor?? The people that got the code off ebay?  No one paid *extra* for the Inferno code! It was a pre-order bonus.   Pre-orders are typically $5 downpayments to reserve a copy and guarentee a sale not an extra cost to the game.

Should the other two helment items be free and in a seperate pack? Yes.   Does BioWare/EA have the right to offer the other pre-order items at cost now since most people didnt go out and reserve multiple copies? Yes

They paid for the inferno armor when they paid for the game. Why should those people pay for less content than people who didn't bother to pre-order? It's called a pre-order bonus for a reason.

No they didnt.  You paid for the game, when you paid for the game.  The armor was a bonus given to you,because you chose to buy it on release day rather than wait.  There were three seperate pre-order exclusives. We can argue just the same that its not fair either to punish people for not being able to collect everything because they didnt go and buy three copies of the game. THAT would be truely money hungry and wrong.   BioWare is now giving people the oppurtunity now to get the other two pre-order items at a cost.  Yes its called a bonus, in this case its a bonus because you got to play with it free for several months before anyone else had the chance.   Is it annoying if you want the other two items its costs money?  Sure. I agreed that the Inferno and the other items should have been a seperate pack.  Seeing as you didnt pay anything for it in the first place though, people complaining about it the way they are is unjustified. 

Modifié par GothamLord, 04 mai 2010 - 08:15 .

[cruc1al]

GothamLord wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

bas273 wrote...

What's wrong with you people? These DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.

Are you serious? How do you justify that people who have paid for inferno armor have to pay for it again if they want the two helmets?

Who paid for the Inferno Armor?? The people that got the code off ebay?  No one paid *extra* for the Inferno code! It was a pre-order bonus.   Pre-orders are typically $5 downpayments to reserve a copy and guarentee a sale not an extra cost to the game.

Should the other two helment items be free and in a seperate pack? Yes.   Does BioWare/EA have the right to offer the other pre-order items at cost now since most people didnt go out and reserve multiple copies? Yes

They paid for the inferno armor when they paid for the game. Why should those people pay for less content than people who didn't bother to pre-order? It's called a pre-order bonus for a reason.

No they didnt.  You paid for the game, when you paid for the game.  The armor was a bonus given to you,because you chose to buy it on release day rather than wait.  There were three seperate pre-order exclusives. We can argue just the same that its not fair either to punish people for not being able to collect everything because they didnt go and buy three copies of the game. THAT would be truely money hungry and wrong.   BioWare is now giving people the oppurtunity now to get the other two pre-order items at a cost.  Yes its called a bonus, in this case its a bonus because you got to play with it free for several months before anyone else had the chance.   Is it annoying if you want the other two items its costs money?  Sure. I agreed that the Inferno and the other items should have been a seperate pack.  Seeing as you didnt pay anything for it in the first place though, people complaining about it the way they are is unjustified. 

So you agree that they should be in separate packs, but you think people shouldn't complain about them being in the same pack?

Right.

[bas273]

I apologize, I didn't know that the Inferno Armor was a pre-order bonus. I don't have enough time to read all the pages on this thread, but now I know .
Personally I'm against any pre-order or promotional items. When I pay the full price for this game, I should get access to all items available on the releasedate, except maybe for Collector's Edition items (but imo the CE should only contain stuff like an artbook and an action figure, not in-game items).
So that leaves the Archon Visor and Capacitor Helmet. They both look quite good and I think I'm gonna get this DLC, even though it feels like a rip-off.
It's a shame that these helmets are not compatible with the Blood Dragon Armor / Cerberus Assault Armor / etc. though. I ended up never using those armor sets because I don't want to wear a helmet (except for visors).

Modifié par bas273, 04 mai 2010 - 08:22 .