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[Krigwin]

Krigwin wrote...

Looking through this thread, I must say, whoever came up with the "free" Day One DLC scam is a genius.

You see so many people going "Well, some of the DLC isn't really worth it... but then again I got so and so DLC for FREE when I bought the game. That must mean Bioware is good, right?"

Yeah, how incredibly generous of Bioware to give you part of the game you paid for for free. I mean, when I buy a six-pack, and they give me the sixth can FOR FREE, that's when I know I'm getting a deal!

It's gotta be the easiest time ever right now for the gaming industry when you can chop up games, sell half of it for full price, and then release some of the parts of the other half for free and other parts for an inflated cost. And instead of being outraged, the consumers will thank you and happily fork over their money because we have to support Bioware, they're so generous giving us so much DLC for free!

Again, the "free" DLC is not free. It's part of the game you already paid for. Saying that it's free is like saying when you buy a bottle of water, they give you the water inside the bottle for free. No, you paid for that water when you bought the bottle... of water.

The "free" Day One DLC is a scam, a sleazy practice intended to stamp out the secondhand game market. It's completely outrageous, especially as you don't see this happening in any other industry. I mean, people buy clothes secondhand. That's unacceptable. Clearly we should put chemicals inside clothing that cause them to break down when people stop wearing them. People buy furniture secondhand. Unacceptable. We should put explosives into furniture that destroy them when people try to sell them. People buy books secondhand. Unacceptable. We should burn all books once people have read them.

I hate secondhand retailers like Gamestop as much as anyone, and I'm actually in favor of supporting companies, such as Bioware, firsthand by purchasing their games, but practices like this Day One DLC scam is not the way to go. The Day One DLC is basically Bioware saying "if you can't get it from us, you can't get it from anyone", and that's completely selfish and a huge slap in the face to consumers.

[hex23]

"It's the principle of it" seems to be code for "it's really not worth b*tching about, but I will anyway".



It's $2. If you don't want it don't get it. If you do, buy it. I don't think it's worth it personally. But I'm not going to throw a fit or write several paragraphs on it, because realistically Bioware had their DLC plan outlined before the game even shipped. Nothing we say or do is going to make them deviate from that plan, because the alternative is they don't release this DLC, and it makes them 0 dollars. Even if 2 people buy this DLC from a business stand point it's better than the alternative of giving it out free, or not releasing it.

[hex23]

Oh and one more thing.



The Cerberus Network DLC was free. They didn't add an extra cost onto the game, so you can't say you "paid for the Cerberus Network" when you bought the game. The game was the exact same price as any other game out, so it's silly to say "the price was included". No, the price was FREE which is why it didn't affect the retail price of the game. As such, any DLC via it was free too. It's kinda simple really.

[Vena_86]

I don`t really understand the need of BioWares DLC team to always try hiding the eyes. The eyes are the most detailed and importnat part of the characters faces, why is all the DLC always trying to obsucre the faces and not even with something that looks good? The blood dragon armor helmet looks good but thats about it, everything else is just a downgrade that hurts the atmosphear.

[cruc1al]

@ hex23



You know you just wrote several paragraphs about not complaining about the DLC. LOL

[tomh115]

hex23..

its only free if you bought a new copy..used it costs 20 extra dollars making the used copy 15 dollars more pricey than the new copy. personally i feel ripped off for the 2 dollars i spend on an armor set i already had. i thought it was supposed to be a preorder item only like the 2 game stop pieces. oh well masks are nice and N7 armor is better than any other set so far....looking forward to the next DLC pack for either DA:O/A or ME2 whatever it is.

[Shallowain]

hex23 wrote...

Oh and one more thing.

The Cerberus Network DLC was free. They didn't add an extra cost onto the game, so you can't say you "paid for the Cerberus Network" when you bought the game. The game was the exact same price as any other game out, so it's silly to say "the price was included". No, the price was FREE which is why it didn't affect the retail price of the game. As such, any DLC via it was free too. It's kinda simple really.

Yes it is simple, most people don't understand economics. The Price for the "free" DLC was calculated into the retail price of the game. And since they give a seperate price for the CN you can calculate, what they consider the price for the game alone (excluding any taxes, that complicates things a lot).

[Vena_86]

hex23 wrote...

Oh and one more thing.

The Cerberus Network DLC was free. They didn't add an extra cost onto the game, so you can't say you "paid for the Cerberus Network" when you bought the game. The game was the exact same price as any other game out, so it's silly to say "the price was included". No, the price was FREE which is why it didn't affect the retail price of the game. As such, any DLC via it was free too. It's kinda simple really.

I tell you whats simple. When you purchased the game you also paid for the cerebus network and all the "free" content it comes with. If you get the game second hand, you have to buy the CN extra. There wont be anymore free DLC. It was all calculated as part of the prize tag from the beginning. Cerebus Network is part of the full game! It is not some extra charity. There are games with more content then ME2 at the same prize. Seriously, it is incredible naive to assume anything of this is free, specially since the DLC has been planned out and announced as such from the beginning.

[Monstruo696]

 New Motto for Bioware:

"Bioware:  Shooting Ourselves in the Foot, One DLC attaTime."

[noobzor99]

Monstruo696 wrote...

 New Motto for Bioware:

"Bioware:  Shooting Ourselves in the Foot, One DLC attaTime."

So it seems....
as to the OP, if you think it is too much (like me) don't buy it.

[Krigwin]

Research indicates that the right brain is more visual, and responds more readily to pictures, visible patterns, and guided imagery. I am now about to make use of both science and my limited MSPaint skills to carry a point across to all the right-brained people:

[Monstruo696]

noobzor99 wrote...

Monstruo696 wrote...

 New Motto for Bioware:

"Bioware:  Shooting Ourselves in the Foot, One DLC attaTime."

So it seems....
as to the OP, if you think it is too much (like me) don't buy it.

Oh, I won't buy it, I just wish Bioware would stop shooting themselves in the foot by being so godam stupid.  

Whoever your marketing guy is, BW/EA, fire him, there's way better methods of getting money from your costumers post-launch than pulling this **** and making yourselves look like total tools.

[GothamLord]

Krigwin wrote...

Research indicates that the right brain is more visual, and responds more readily to pictures, visible patterns, and guided imagery. I am now about to make use of both science and my limited MSPaint skills to carry a point across to all the right-brained people:

This isnt entirely accurate. You got the whole pizza when you purchased the game. You're paying for extra toppings now. A company like Capcom on the other hand is a company that is notorious for locking items on a disc and charging you for an unlock code in the guise of DLC material. That would more accurately fit your picture.

[TJSolo]

GothamLord wrote...

Krigwin wrote...

Research indicates that the right brain is more visual, and responds more readily to pictures, visible patterns, and guided imagery. I am now about to make use of both science and my limited MSPaint skills to carry a point across to all the right-brained people:

This isnt entirely accurate. You got the whole pizza when you purchased the game. You're paying for extra toppings now. A company like Capcom on the other hand is a company that is notorious for locking items on a disc and charging you for an unlock code in the guise of DLC material. That would more accurately fit your picture.

Hahaha missing slices o' pie.
Maybe the chef was advised by the owner to the establishment that those slices needing more "baking" time. I am sure the owner will place those slices for sale when they are done "baking".

Oh instead of talking about the issue at hand lets bring up a distraction, Ubisoft!
Ok Bioware youre in the clear now cause as long asa there is a worse offender means you can get by.

[FutureBoy81]

Since when did bioware turn there faithful fanbase into cow's ?

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

It must of been the wild magic mage class in Throne of Bhaal. Anyway, let's start tipping them over and have some fun!

[Zinoviy]

Krigwin wrote...

Zinoviy wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

Darth Drago wrote...

How is paying 67 cents for that armor really paying for it again? Bet you paid more for a 20 oz bottle of whatever you like to drink.

Because people will always find something to **** about.    Modern age Human nature.

Yup, and pretty much this.

If you guys are hung up so badly on this $2 DLC, you might want to try going outside or something.

Man, you guys are so cool. You must be rich and have your own cars and everything. Can you guys give me lessons on how to be as cool and successful as you?

Again, you cherry pick an angle in a post and try to exaggerate it to make yourself look good, then attempt to spin it into a personal attack.

The point of my post wasn't to harp on the price, but to point out the fact that yes it IS cheap, but it's also unsubstantial and completely irrelevant to the game. You DON'T have to get it, you WON'T be missing out on anything if you don't get it.

So don't get it. What's the problem? Why is this thread still here?

[Zinoviy]

Rhetorical question, by the way ^



I know the answer. Everyone just needs something to **** about.

[Monstruo696]

Zinoviy wrote...

Rhetorical question, by the way ^

I know the answer. Everyone just needs something to **** about.

You're a conformist idiot.  Have fun being spoon fed bull**** for the rest of your life.

It must be true what they say about ignorance and bliss.

EDIT: Also, nice double post.

Modifié par Monstruo696, 05 mai 2010 - 01:50 .

[GothamLord]

Monstruo696 wrote...

Zinoviy wrote...

Rhetorical question, by the way ^

I know the answer. Everyone just needs something to **** about.

You're a conformist idiot.  Have fun being spoon fed bull**** for the rest of your life.

It must be true what they say about ignorance and bliss.

EDIT: Also, nice double post.

Because the role of being a contrarian jackass is such a more flattering position.  Oh thats right, we're on the internet and we want to look cool. 

[Monstruo696]

GothamLord wrote...


Because the role of being a contrarian jackass is such a more flattering position.  Oh thats right, we're on the internet and we want to look cool. 

Because someone who makes up words like "contrarian" has the intellect to realize he's being ripped off. 

[The RPGenius]

Zinoviy wrote...

Rhetorical question, by the way ^

I know the answer. Everyone just needs something to **** about.

Yes.  Because the world is so great and problem-free already that people are just desperate to find something, anything to complain about in their idyllic lives.  Clearly that's what this is all about, because that makes sense.

[Id of Ith]

Monstruo696 wrote...

GothamLord wrote...


Because the role of being a contrarian jackass is such a more flattering position.  Oh thats right, we're on the internet and we want to look cool. 

Because someone who makes up words like "contrarian" has the intellect to realize he's being ripped off. 

That... is a word, you know.

I don't necessarily think it describes everyone in this thread, but some of the hyperbole people have spewed in this thread is pretty absurd.

Modifié par Id of Ith, 05 mai 2010 - 02:39 .

[GothamLord]

Monstruo696 wrote...

GothamLord wrote...


Because the role of being a contrarian jackass is such a more flattering position.  Oh thats right, we're on the internet and we want to look cool. 

Because someone who makes up words like "contrarian" has the intellect to realize he's being ripped off. 

LOL!!

Open a dictionary once and awhile there slick...

http://www.merriam-w...nary/contrarian