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[TMA LIVE]

mi55ter wrote...

VA_FyreHeart wrote...

Frankly several $2 DLCs don't bother me, when you consider Firewalker was free. Personally, I think they should have done it the other way around: FireWalker should have been a paid download, and these appearance/armor components should be $. I consider the armor packs as payments toward my enjoyment of Firewalker

Yes, I thought they did do a couple of the dlc pricings a-ss backwards. I wouldn't have minded paying for the Firewalker either, but nevermind. I take free stuff whenever I get it, ha ha ha

If Bioware desperately needs your 2 dollars to give you more crappy DLC, then that's god damn low. And Firewalker already seems half finished for something that's free. Seriously guys, they've sold over a million by now. They don't need 200 dollars from 100 fans.

Anyways, I care about getting good content. I only care about money if it's worth the price. I'll never wear these helmets, and if the Inferno Suit wasn't added in, then I won't have gotten it.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 10 mai 2010 - 08:46 .

[eternalnightmare13]

It's not about cost or free. It's about content. If **** doesn't interest me I ain't gonna download it regardless. Word up!

[seawolf77]

oh shoot, why i dont read this threath before i purchased the damn thing.... zucht... there goes my 160 pts. Oh wel.. ill be damn,

anyway, im done playing this game already lol... just waiting for ME3 released. i just cant stand watching another John Sheppard on my screen. BBOORRIINGGGG

[Palathas]

The thing that baffles me about this DLC is that surely someone in the area that approves what goes into DLC would have realised that including pre-order items would tick people off and make them baulk or outright refuse to buy the DLC.
If you wanted to release pre-order items in purchasable DLC then why not include it all in one pack so that noone is left out? Well, the only people I could see being disadvantaged would be the people that pre-ordered five or six copies of the game to get all the pre-order offers then cancelling all but one of the pre-orders.

Modifié par Palathas, 11 mai 2010 - 12:26 .

[Cloaking_Thane]

1) where is the gun?

2) Don't buy a big mac meal for one day...buy dlc (this or kasumi)

3) forum members will complain about absolutely anything and complain about prices and being ripped off...........last i checked bioware/ea pay their employees in money not hugs from forum members.

4) forum members are a small yet hardcore fraction of the fanbase the sooner they realise this the better...........you either like the game or dont............they've proffered a DLC you get it or dont....the b**ch fests on these forums are comical...........get a paper route jesus

5) for the "content" arg.......you either think its worth it or not............is 2-3 bucks worth and extra % damage to your enemies for the entirity of your gameplay?

Its the way the market works..................

Modifié par Cloaking_Thane, 11 mai 2010 - 12:48 .

[scotty062295]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

1) where is the gun?

2) Don't buy a big mac meal for one day...buy dlc (this or kasumi)

3) forum members will complain about absolutely anything and complain about prices and being ripped off...........last i checked bioware/ea pay their employees in money not hugs from forum members.

4) forum members are a small yet hardcore fraction of the fanbase the sooner they realise this the better...........you either like the game or dont............they've proffered a DLC you get it or dont....the b**ch fests on these forums are comical...........get a paper route jesus

5) for the "content" arg.......you either think its worth it or not............is 2-3 bucks worth and extra % damage to your enemies for the entirity of your gameplay?

Its the way the market works..................

It is called constructive criticism. People don't like these small DLC packages for $2, so they're voicing their opinion on it. To restrict their opinion would be stupid. If they don't like it they won't buy it, that is obvious. Stating it is pointing out the obvious. No it is not worth the extra damage.  They do not think it is worth it, but by your definition must hold all of their feelings inside. That is a terrible way to go. If people don't point out problems, they stay problems. I'm sure if Bioware released Kasume-sized DLC more often, there would be less complaining. Would there still be some? Sure. But there would be less. For the most part that is what people want

[Neo Hex Omega]

At first I was quite vehement about this pack(and I believe I made a rather nasty post last week about it actually), and while I still think bundling the pre order armor with it was a bad idea, I decided that I had enough excess points to take a plunge, since at least this stuff has an in game benefit, unlike the appearance pack.



The helmets look better in game than in the screenshots, to be fair, and the archon visor actually looks pretty snazzy on my Soldier Shepard. However, this is definitely my last micro DLC purchase for Mass Effect 2, unless Bioware adds more bang for the buck in the future. I hope to see them return back to making small stuff free through Cerberus Network(otherwise what is the point of having it), and only charging for bigger modules like Stolen Memory.

[insochris]

scotty062295 wrote...

It is called constructive criticism. People don't like these small DLC packages for $2, so they're voicing their opinion on it.

if more people knew what "constructive" meant, people wouldn't complain about the complaints.

the following do not count as constructive:

- calling Bioware "subhuman pieces of trash"
- threatening to go on a killing spree in EA's offices
- comparing charging for this DLC to the Holocaust (trying to even remotely joke about it is sick)
- accusing Bioware of taking advantage of your obsessive complusiveness
- comparing Bioware to the Church of Scientology
- threatening to boycott future Bioware releases because of some optional DLC packs
- one word responses like "LAME", "boo", sad faces, etc.

examples of constructive criticism:

"This would be better suited as Cerberus Network DLC, since it is just a few armour pieces"
"The Inferno Armour could have been a separate download since a lot people likely already have it"
"Announcing a larger DLC pack alongside the release of this pack could have reduced fan outrage"

and such. note the lack of death threats and unbackable comparisons to cults and fascist dictatorships.

that said, there have been constructive posts here. the more absurd ones just tend to stand out more.

[Heather Cline]

Has anyone noticed that the Inferno armor is just a re-color of the assault gear. Hell the assault gear and Inferno armor for female Shepard looks like the male version. The chest and hips and everything just looks like it was made for a male.



LAME!

[cerberus1701]

insochris wrote...

scotty062295 wrote...

It is called constructive criticism. People don't like these small DLC packages for $2, so they're voicing their opinion on it.

if more people knew what "constructive" meant, people wouldn't complain about the complaints.

the following do not count as constructive:

- calling Bioware "subhuman pieces of trash"
- threatening to go on a killing spree in EA's offices
- comparing charging for this DLC to the Holocaust (trying to even remotely joke about it is sick)
- accusing Bioware of taking advantage of your obsessive complusiveness
- comparing Bioware to the Church of Scientology
- threatening to boycott future Bioware releases because of some optional DLC packs
- one word responses like "LAME", "boo", sad faces, etc.

examples of constructive criticism:

"This would be better suited as Cerberus Network DLC, since it is just a few armour pieces"
"The Inferno Armour could have been a separate download since a lot people likely already have it"
"Announcing a larger DLC pack alongside the release of this pack could have reduced fan outrage"

and such. note the lack of death threats and unbackable comparisons to cults and fascist dictatorships.

that said, there have been constructive posts here. the more absurd ones just tend to stand out more.

Thank you.

The fact that this needs to be explained to people is mind-boggling.

[Heather Cline]

Well here is some constructive criticism for the developers at bioware. If you are going to make a DLC armor available for people, make female and male versions. Don't just make the certain parts narrower, make the chest more visible. Actually make the female armors meant for females and the males meant for males. Just doing minor alterations makes the armors look bad especially on the female ones.



I'd also like to see a female version of the male Shepards orange coat and jeans ensemble in the casual wear. The one you got now that looks like an orange jumpsuit looks ugly and gangly at best. The orange vest with gloves and jeans and combat boots looks amazing on the male shepard and I believe female shepard could pull it off just as well. The current one is horrendously ugly. Please make a fix for that.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

mi55ter wrote...

VA_FyreHeart wrote...

Frankly several $2 DLCs don't bother me, when you consider Firewalker was free. Personally, I think they should have done it the other way around: FireWalker should have been a paid download, and these appearance/armor components should be $. I consider the armor packs as payments toward my enjoyment of Firewalker

Yes, I thought they did do a couple of the dlc pricings a-ss backwards. I wouldn't have minded paying for the Firewalker either, but nevermind. I take free stuff whenever I get it, ha ha ha

I rather they overcharge Zaeed (suck ass Loyalty mission, and it was free) and underpriced Kasumi (would love to download that awesome DLC badly, I think their current price is totally worth the content though) <_<. I was rather surprised the whole Firewalker thing was free, great extension play. 
I hope they constantly have more DLC missions/percs to extend the ME2 experience/gameplay. I thought the whole ME1 was going to be that way (yet only had 2 major DLC's). I wish there were DLC replayable locations, new missions or scenarios. 

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 11 mai 2010 - 06:56 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

1) where is the gun?

2) Don't buy a big mac meal for one day...buy dlc (this or kasumi)

3) forum members will complain about absolutely anything and complain about prices and being ripped off...........last i checked bioware/ea pay their employees in money not hugs from forum members.

4) forum members are a small yet hardcore fraction of the fanbase the sooner they realise this the better...........you either like the game or dont............they've proffered a DLC you get it or dont....the b**ch fests on these forums are comical...........get a paper route jesus

5) for the "content" arg.......you either think its worth it or not............is 2-3 bucks worth and extra % damage to your enemies for the entirity of your gameplay?

Its the way the market works..................

Microsoft Studios pay employees aswell. If money was considered hugging, Microsoft could literally hug harder than EA. EA is like 60% weaker vs. MS's big hugs. So who gives a ****? They were probably better off being under some other company, rather some desperate organization trying to suck on some product's sweet fanbase. But some other organization likely promised more money than their previous company to then **** up **** the way they want instead of how it should have been.

Steve Jobs should try and hug BioWare too, probably make a even better product (like ME1 and the iPad).

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 11 mai 2010 - 07:10 .

[mi55ter]

insochris wrote...

scotty062295 wrote...

It is called constructive criticism. People don't like these small DLC packages for $2, so they're voicing their opinion on it.

if more people knew what "constructive" meant, people wouldn't complain about the complaints.

the following do not count as constructive:

- calling Bioware "subhuman pieces of trash"
- threatening to go on a killing spree in EA's offices
- comparing charging for this DLC to the Holocaust (trying to even remotely joke about it is sick)
- accusing Bioware of taking advantage of your obsessive complusiveness
- comparing Bioware to the Church of Scientology
- threatening to boycott future Bioware releases because of some optional DLC packs
- one word responses like "LAME", "boo", sad faces, etc.

examples of constructive criticism:

"This would be better suited as Cerberus Network DLC, since it is just a few armour pieces"
"The Inferno Armour could have been a separate download since a lot people likely already have it"
"Announcing a larger DLC pack alongside the release of this pack could have reduced fan outrage"

and such. note the lack of death threats and unbackable comparisons to cults and fascist dictatorships.

that said, there have been constructive posts here. the more absurd ones just tend to stand out more.

I loved the way you did this. Not only did you explain constructive criticism, you used some of it (with humour: 'note the lack of...'). Great!

[Mars8309]

I pre-ordered and didn't get the gun or the cool armor. The helmets are just odd and they should bring back the armors people have missed along with the guns to. Along with filling up the missing two characters. or a DLC to have millions of credits... Wishful dreaming here.

Joey

Modifié par Mars8309, 11 mai 2010 - 08:35 .

[Aradace]

I dont give a damn about "contructive" when it comes to talking about BW...Why? Because they NEED to be ripped on for making the retarded ass decision to hook up with EA. Im not a passive person....Im not even what you'd call "nice"....You want me to be PC about something? Tch, yea, good luck with that, I dont do PC. It's the consumer's right to express whatever discontent they want to whenever something doesnt live up to their standards (such as this recent excrement pack.) Remember, the customer is always right.

[Mars8309]

Customer isn't always right. Customers can be disappointed but being right as it never happens. Only the business can make the Customer happy again later on.



Joey

[Aradace]

still, someone coming on here and telling me or even suggesting that I dont have the right to be angry is just rediculous. Being constructive is great....when it works. Like with companies such as Square/Enix for example.....But when a company makes a bonehead move like teaming up with another company that already has a tarnished reputation, they deserve whatever they get in terms of slander from the customers.

[Inxentas]

Ha ha ha! I've really rubbed some people the wrong way by making a comparison with the Church of Scientology. Why?



1 - Scientology sells you books which you must repurchase if you want more.

2 - BioWare / EA sells you DLC which you must repurchase if you want more.



What's the difference? Also, I find it entirely fair to state BW / EA is creating a situation that abuses completion compulsions. They created the need for completion themselves no less, by offering a huge chunck of content through DLC instead of releasing a game that is complete in and of itself. They have created a situation where one fan envies another, people can't purchase or own parts of the game other people do own... unless they pay for content they already have. This sucks hard.



I don't find it surprising people stop submitting 'constructive criticism' in favor of simple forum rage. BioWare / EA has brought this on themselves, and they deserve it ten times over.

[Erinlana]

szekeres2010 wrote...

I agree, the female shepard suit looks really bad, she looks like a farmer or something...

If your meaning  the inferno armour , i think it is fitting to femshep ,

Now the cerberus armour  has poor design texture , it makes your  femshep ..not "fem" as such.

[Icinix]

Erinlana wrote...

szekeres2010 wrote...

I agree, the female shepard suit looks really bad, she looks like a farmer or something...

If your meaning  the inferno armour , i think it is fitting to femshep ,

Now the cerberus armour  has poor design texture , it makes your  femshep ..not "fem" as such.

It makes your femshep look like a tissue box basically.

[Erinlana]

Icinix wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

szekeres2010 wrote...

I agree, the female shepard suit looks really bad, she looks like a farmer or something...

If your meaning  the inferno armour , i think it is fitting to femshep ,

Now the cerberus armour  has poor design texture , it makes your  femshep ..not "fem" as such.

It makes your femshep look like a tissue box basically.

'

Yes I agree , but if the helmet were removable it wouldn't look so bad , it seems as if it was designed to be more fitting for the male ..

[Lumiya03]

Aradace wrote...

I dont give a damn about "contructive" when it comes to talking about BW...Why? Because they NEED to be ripped on for making the retarded ass decision to hook up with EA. Im not a passive person....Im not even what you'd call "nice"....You want me to be PC about something? Tch, yea, good luck with that, I dont do PC. It's the consumer's right to express whatever discontent they want to whenever something doesnt live up to their standards (such as this recent excrement pack.) Remember, the customer is always right.

clearly you have never worked in retail....The customer is always right my ass. %90 of the time the customer is wrong and we have to abide by his indignant ass because he wants to throw a tantrum about however he feels he has been slighted. consumers are stupid plain and simple. Don't like it? then don't buy it. problem solved. You got your money's worth for buying the ME2 disc. Sit down, Shut up, and let people who want to spend thier money on this enjoy it or not.

[Erinlana]

Lumiya03 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

I dont give a damn about "contructive" when it comes to talking about BW...Why? Because they NEED to be ripped on for making the retarded ass decision to hook up with EA. Im not a passive person....Im not even what you'd call "nice"....You want me to be PC about something? Tch, yea, good luck with that, I dont do PC. It's the consumer's right to express whatever discontent they want to whenever something doesnt live up to their standards (such as this recent excrement pack.) Remember, the customer is always right.

clearly you have never worked in retail....The customer is always right my ass. %90 of the time the customer is wrong and we have to abide by his indignant ass because he wants to throw a tantrum about however he feels he has been slighted. consumers are stupid plain and simple. Don't like it? then don't buy it. problem solved. You got your money's worth for buying the ME2 disc. Sit down, Shut up, and let people who want to spend thier money on this enjoy it or not.

Dam...thats bad ass