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[Tyrax Lightning]

Milana_Saros wrote...

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

Why would lotsa bright colors be a bad thing, especially in a sci-fi game? I can agree on hoping on a lack of WoW influence. I like Starcraft, but not WoW, at the same time. I would be suprised if I was alone on this.

I take it you're not familiar with having light-sensitive eyes coupled with migraine tendency? I could not use Full Screen glow or specular lighting in WoW for more than 5 minutes before my head started splitting open. Things probably aren't that bad in D3 and SC2 since they are different type of games (you don't stare at your characters butt all the time and look things from a far more distant angle) but bright colors aren't needed to make a stylish game...

Did you look at this?
http://www.maxfreak....eenshot-big.jpg

Just look at the difference, it's incredibly huge. And what does it matter even if it's a sci-fi or a fantasy game? It has nothing to do with it. Does ME2 have a world filled with bright colors? It doesn't. What I mean is, there's colorful, and then there's a rainbow with sun shining on the background.

At least provide people with a separate Contrast adjustment. In WoW, I ran out of gamma/contrast/brightness adjustment both in the game and in my monitor. Playing around with video card settings isn't very fun either in the long run.

I can play all other games hours and hours straight, but WoW causes headache after a couple of hours. Still, as I said, probably isn't such a big deal in a game that rolls in a different perspective. Besides the games aren't even out yet, we'll have to wait and see for the final result.

Edit: Bah, neverwind, the guy on the link had hardware issues (surprise ). Still, full screen glow in WoW is a no-go.

Ouch. What you're describing to me sounds like 'Epilepsy'. Epilepsy sucks, it would perturb anyone to have to put up with it.

I don't know much about WoW, but it does tend to sound kinda 'cartoony'. I seriously doubt Starcraft 2 will be like that, since it's geared toward adults. Maybe teenagers as well.

[Sad Dragon]

exterminator wrote...

Guys Starcraft 2 will come in 3 separate games ...

First for Terrans

Second for protoss

and third for Zerg

Actualy the order is, as stated by Blizzard, Terran, Zerg, Protoss - though from the Terran trailer with Jim and Zeratul it is safe to say Kerrigan will still play a major roll through the whole trilogy.

Also they have stated that the reason that they have split it up into 3 parts is to give each campaign more polish and lenght. As someone already said each campaign will be about the same size as the SC1. While we will only get one race for the campaign - with the excaption of the smaller zeratul missions that have been rumored, if they are real - the multiplayer will alow all 3 races.

For all the people who say that they are not so good at RTSs, i bring good news. The game has removed a lot of smaller things to make the gameplay flow better - multiselect for buildings for instance. The Beta is great - and the reason i havent been posting here for a while ^^;;; - and i have to say i think people who wherent awesome before will at least get a chance to become average in SC2 due to the slight changes to how micro and macro works now.

With that said i shall head off to sleep, will try not to neglect these forums too much... but the beta is just so much fun

/TSD

[Tyrax Lightning]

Sad Dragon wrote...

exterminator wrote...

Guys Starcraft 2 will come in 3 separate games ...

First for Terrans

Second for protoss

and third for Zerg

Actualy the order is, as stated by Blizzard, Terran, Zerg, Protoss - though from the Terran trailer with Jim and Zeratul it is safe to say Kerrigan will still play a major roll through the whole trilogy.

Also they have stated that the reason that they have split it up into 3 parts is to give each campaign more polish and lenght. As someone already said each campaign will be about the same size as the SC1. While we will only get one race for the campaign - with the excaption of the smaller zeratul missions that have been rumored, if they are real - the multiplayer will alow all 3 races.

For all the people who say that they are not so good at RTSs, i bring good news. The game has removed a lot of smaller things to make the gameplay flow better - multiselect for buildings for instance. The Beta is great - and the reason i havent been posting here for a while ^^;;; - and i have to say i think people who wherent awesome before will at least get a chance to become average in SC2 due to the slight changes to how micro and macro works now.

With that said i shall head off to sleep, will try not to neglect these forums too much... but the beta is just so much fun

/TSD

One of the nuisances of SC1 was the 12 unit limit for group selection. Did they do something about that in SC2? I heard unconfirmed intel that the SC1 number selection limit was to interfere with the use of cheap zerging tactics, but I don't think it worked at all. I hope it's not being kept.

[Sad Dragon]

They have alowed you to select ... think the limit might be 8*4*6 units at the time. 8 is the number of units in one row of your selection, think each tab then holds 4 rows of units, and think they alowe for maybe 4-5 tabs. Safe to say you will be able to select all the units you want to select.



For units with powers, like the high templars psi-storm or the stalkers blink you can cycle through which units you want to have the "action square" for so that even if different units are in the same group you can - through tabbing - get to the "action square" that you want to use the abilities.



/TSD

[Tyrax Lightning]

That sound sweet! Interface power makes a major difference in fun factor.

[insochris]

well, it sure is still Starcraft, and i still suck at it.



ah, that takes me back 10 years



i really wish they enabled players vs CPU for the beta though.

[Sad Dragon]

You can play vs the computer in the beta... though last i checked the computer might as well not have any AI at all as it hardly built any units. Mind you the difficulty for the AI can only be set to "very easy" in the beta - more settings to come im sure ^^



/TSD

[ObserverStatus]

Milana_Saros wrote...

Was expecting Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 as well but everything seems to be so horribly WoWified that it puts me off quite a bit...don't they eye-stress-test their graphics at all? WoW made my eyes squeal, now even SC2 and D3 are in bright colors...

Still I quite enjoyed SC and D2 back in the day so we'll see I guess.

Personally I like D3's color scheme, while watching the trailers I didn't ahve to squint at the screen.

[Milana_Saros]

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

Ouch. What you're describing to me sounds like 'Epilepsy'. Epilepsy sucks, it would perturb anyone to have to put up with it.

I don't know much about WoW, but it does tend to sound kinda 'cartoony'. I seriously doubt Starcraft 2 will be like that, since it's geared toward adults. Maybe teenagers as well.

Nah, not epilepsy, thankfully. Just this nagging pain behind my eyes whenever I played WoW and then sometimes migraine. I have to wear sunglasses almost all the time when driving. My fiancé got headaches from WoW too even if he doesn't have tendency towards it.

The rainbow-pony jokes circulating Diablo 3 are too much I agree. Still, I hope that the screenshots of D3 and SC2 simply give the wrong impression. I should watch more trailers when I have the time.

[Sad Dragon]

SC2 has about the same colour scheme as SC1, some bright colours that are essential to distinguise between factions but with the exception of the team colours its not that bad.

Sure it isnt all watered out, but its no more crayon colouring then ME2 - at least that is my impression. ^^



/TSD

[insochris]

Sad Dragon wrote...

You can play vs the computer in the beta... though last i checked the computer might as well not have any AI at all as it hardly built any units. Mind you the difficulty for the AI can only be set to "very easy" in the beta - more settings to come im sure ^^

/TSD

the button is grayed out, and the tooltip says "disabled for beta"

Modifié par insochris, 09 mai 2010 - 03:20 .

[Sad Dragon]

insochris wrote...

Sad Dragon wrote...

You can play vs the computer in the beta... though last i checked the computer might as well not have any AI at all as it hardly built any units. Mind you the difficulty for the AI can only be set to "very easy" in the beta - more settings to come im sure ^^

/TSD

the button is grayed out, and the tooltip says "disabled for beta"

Create a custom game and then you can add AIs to the melee game - and by custom i dont mean a UMS game but just the same way you create a game for you and a friend and you will find the +AI button

/TSD

[Tyrax Lightning]

Milana_Saros wrote...

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

Ouch. What you're describing to me sounds like 'Epilepsy'. Epilepsy sucks, it would perturb anyone to have to put up with it.

I don't know much about WoW, but it does tend to sound kinda 'cartoony'. I seriously doubt Starcraft 2 will be like that, since it's geared toward adults. Maybe teenagers as well.

Nah, not epilepsy, thankfully. Just this nagging pain behind my eyes whenever I played WoW and then sometimes migraine. I have to wear sunglasses almost all the time when driving. My fiancé got headaches from WoW too even if he doesn't have tendency towards it.

The rainbow-pony jokes circulating Diablo 3 are too much I agree. Still, I hope that the screenshots of D3 and SC2 simply give the wrong impression. I should watch more trailers when I have the time.

The only other thing I can think of then, is to try lowering the 'Brightness' & 'Gamma' Settings in the game Options Menu. Some have trouble with those settings & i'm still a Padawan at it myself, but that's the only other solution I can think of for your WoW experiences. Should be able to do it in SC2 as well. The way WoW sounds suggests to me that it might be plausible for the game settings for those 2 options to default to an awfully high setting to try to make their colors look sickenly bright as part of it's strategy.

I remember a time when I was checking out my rl friend's new Wide Screen TV & my eyes hurt like unholy buggers for the rest of the night after watching & playing on the new TV. Lowering it's 'Brightness' setting solved the problem.

Hope i'm helping.

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 09 mai 2010 - 05:18 .

[matt coll]

mattp420 wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

The box presents itself as if it has the freakin' original Ten Commandments stored.

The picture is of the $100 C.E.   I don't think it has the original Ten Commandments, but I think it comes with a World of Warcraft pet.

pretty cheap for a WOW pet:P
but that box, i'm fairly sure i drive to work in something smaller, standard edition for me

[ObserverStatus]

Is the beta really ending may 17th? According to the latest patch notes they are having severe difficulties balancing the Ultralisk, for example, and many other issues which seem like they will take longer than that to resolve.

[Morthrax Kildara]

What? Beta ending the 17th? I hope that isn't true...

That is too soon! I don't even have my key yet!

[Milana_Saros]

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

Hope i'm helping.

I did lower brightness/contrast as low as possible. They're all 0 on my monitor, hehe. I'm enough of a techie to know how to tamper around with adjustments
like that, so it's not a hardware issue. One thing left would be to adjust my video card settings and I'm not really a fan of that considering how it affects everything. I would have to crash contrast down for WoW and then pump it up higher to see anything in Oblivion dungeons.

You simply shouldn't have to do that, you know?

It's the high graphics, full screen glow and specular highlights especially. I recently re-installed Oblivion and noticed that using HDR had the same impact whereas bloom was much more neutral and actually playable.

So yeah, I'd say it's how the WoW engine handles that "high graphic" stuff. Pretty silly really. They even have this loading problem with WotLK, the game trying to load up graphics that are far far away and it causes the game to stall even on high end computers. When flying from Dragon's Blight to Dalaran, you get these long load times of 15-30 seconds at least once or twice. So their engine is hardly perfect I think.

Still, I'm done with torturing myself with WoW, both graphic and gameplay wise so you don't have to worry

Let's just hope that all the rainbow-pony jokes have blown this graphic thing out of proportion. Even if I'm cautious about SC2 and D3 I'm definitely going to get both. Wish they would announce that final class for D3. Can't wait to play D3 online with my brother.

Oh and...kekekekekeke zerliing ruuuuusshhh!

[Tyrax Lightning]

Milana_Saros wrote...

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

Hope i'm helping.

I did lower brightness/contrast as low as possible. They're all 0 on my monitor, hehe. I'm enough of a techie to know how to tamper around with adjustments like that, so it's not a hardware issue. One thing left would be to adjust my video card settings and I'm not really a fan of that considering how it affects everything. I would have to crash contrast down for WoW and then pump it up higher to see anything in Oblivion dungeons.

You simply shouldn't have to do that, you know?

It's the high graphics, full screen glow and specular highlights especially. I recently re-installed Oblivion and noticed that using HDR had the same impact whereas bloom was much more neutral and actually playable.

So yeah, I'd say it's how the WoW engine handles that "high graphic" stuff. Pretty silly really. They even have this loading problem with WotLK, the game trying to load up graphics that are far far away and it causes the game to stall even on high end computers. When flying from Dragon's Blight to Dalaran, you get these long load times of 15-30 seconds at least once or twice. So their engine is hardly perfect I think.

Still, I'm done with torturing myself with WoW, both graphic and gameplay wise so you don't have to worry

Let's just hope that all the rainbow-pony jokes have blown this graphic thing out of proportion. Even if I'm cautious about SC2 and D3 I'm definitely going to get both. Wish they would announce that final class for D3. Can't wait to play D3 online with my brother.

Oh and...kekekekekeke zerliing ruuuuusshhh!

Actually, I was referring to the Brightness & Contrast Settings within the WoW Game's Options Menu. But I don't blame ya a bit for not wanting to spend too long on it. It's boring stuff.

[YR_Lim]

It cost about US$145 in my country for the CE =(