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[ell46]

I know the ending was rubbish, walking to a door expecting to see your adoring public and then nothing but a written epilogue, would it really be asking too much that BW could at least have added a video of the Kings coronation combined wedding?  I was at least expecting that.

[Schwinni]

Yes, the ending was too abrupt. One more movie would have been nice.

[Schwinni]

But a movie showing the Warden stepping out the throne room would have been nice...

[BHRamsay]

The scene in my head is better then anything else they could have rendered anyway. I picture something along the lines of the end of ROTJ with ghostly figures waving at you from the back of the crowd. --- with Hayden Christensen replacing Bryce Cousland :-)

[Zy-El]

Actually, I pictured more of a scene akin to LOTR: Return of the King.



As a side note, the marriage ceremony happens six months after Origins but before the events in Awakenings. I played a HNF who married Alistair the King (much to his surprise!). The epilogue balloon said we were married six months after the coronation then the epilogue went on to mention Amaranthine and the roving bands of darkspawn still ravaging the countryside.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

This is something that I'd love to see DLC for; just to see the marriage ceremony and how hubby and I settle into life at the palace. Is my warhound busy cruising the kennels? Must have been one heck of a short honeymoon with me running off to Amaranthine to battle more dark spawn. Hmmmm, is Anora still in the dungeon? I'd love to find out the answer to this question!!!

[Raiil]

I would have liked a better segueway into the crowd- you know, just an opening the doors and walking into sunlight sort of thing.



On the wedding aspect, well, that would be cool for those of us who could marry the King/Queen, execpt there's only one origin who can do that unless you're playing with a mod on the PC. What about my fem!Amell, who is chancellor and mistress to the King? What cool video would I get? Would the Chancellor ending override the Queen ending if they decided to be both? You're looking at 20+ potential endings. I have another Amell who is going to go wander the world with Alistair and Zevran, how do you plan for that? All things being equal, it would have taken waaaay too many resources to do all that.





It would, however, make an awesome mod.

[Marso40]

I'm not complaining about the end of Origins- I thought it was okay. If I were to make one change, it would be a super-short cutscene before the slideshow, with the camera following your character as the doors open and the crowd beyond catches sight of him/her and roars their approval, then immediately fade to white and cut in the slides.

[Schwinni]

Marso40 wrote...

I'm not complaining about the end of Origins- I thought it was okay. If I were to make one change, it would be a super-short cutscene before the slideshow, with the camera following your character as the doors open and the crowd beyond catches sight of him/her and roars their approval, then immediately fade to white and cut in the slides.

Yes, something like that.

[Zy-El]

An ending cutscene with your Warden marching by your allies . . . Kordic and the Legion of the Dead raising their axes, Mithras and the Dalish Elves raising their bows, Teagann and the Redcliffe soldiers raising swords, Branka and her golems pounding the earth, Witherfang and the werewolves howling to the heavens, Irving and the Circle mages putting on a light show (the crowds would change depending on your choices, of course).

[Raiil]

Also, I think when you go out to greet the crowd, there should be an option to take whatever member of your party with you. In my playthroughs, Alistair goes everywhere with me, and their reactions would be interesting. I'm bff with Zevran, so when I ask him, there could have been a moment of deciding whether he wants to hide from the Crows, or, like in my last playthrough, since I'm mistress and chancellor to the King, it would show that he has friends in very high places, and it might be prudent to let the world know that. It would be amusing to see people's reactions to it.

[Fault Girl]

all the above suggestions are brill! I wish something like that occured.

[Dokarqt]

What I was expecting was something similiar to how they did in kotor 1 and jade empire.



With the PC stepping outside in front of a huge crowd of applauding people or something with the PC standing there looking kinda uncomfortable and awkward.



Those scenarios seem to be the standard for how these scenarios play out anyway.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Valentia X wrote...

I would have liked a better segueway into the crowd- you know, just an opening the doors and walking into sunlight sort of thing.

On the wedding aspect, well, that would be cool for those of us who could marry the King/Queen, execpt there's only one origin who can do that unless you're playing with a mod on the PC. What about my fem!Amell, who is chancellor and mistress to the King? What cool video would I get? Would the Chancellor ending override the Queen ending if they decided to be both? You're looking at 20+ potential endings. I have another Amell who is going to go wander the world with Alistair and Zevran, how do you plan for that? All things being equal, it would have taken waaaay too many resources to do all that.


It would, however, make an awesome mod.

I disagree slightly.  They created six origin stories to begin with so it's not unreasonable for them to create six different crowd presenting endings, or six dlc for each origin and how your preparing for your role as Commander for Amaranthine. DLC of one hour play for each origin.  Not that difficult, time consuming yes, cost effective...probably no.  I can still hope.   Start the dlc on the baloney for your adoring public.   That would be awesome. 

If you're a dwarf...did you return to orzammar, city elf....help rebuild alienage, and so on.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 04 mai 2010 - 08:27 .

[Tellervo]

Valentia X wrote...

I would have liked a better segueway into the crowd- you know, just an opening the doors and walking into sunlight sort of thing.

This.  I was happy, but this would've made it extra awesome.

[Raiil]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I would have liked a better segueway into the crowd- you know, just an opening the doors and walking into sunlight sort of thing.

On the wedding aspect, well, that would be cool for those of us who could marry the King/Queen, execpt there's only one origin who can do that unless you're playing with a mod on the PC. What about my fem!Amell, who is chancellor and mistress to the King? What cool video would I get? Would the Chancellor ending override the Queen ending if they decided to be both? You're looking at 20+ potential endings. I have another Amell who is going to go wander the world with Alistair and Zevran, how do you plan for that? All things being equal, it would have taken waaaay too many resources to do all that.


It would, however, make an awesome mod.

I disagree slightly.  They created six origin stories to begin with so it's not unreasonable for them to create six different crowd presenting endings, or six dlc for each origin and how your preparing for your role as Commander for Amaranthine. DLC of one hour play for each origin.  Not that difficult, time consuming yes, cost effective...probably no.  I can still hope.   Start the dlc on the baloney for your adoring public.   That would be awesome. 

If you're a dwarf...did you return to orzammar, city elf....help rebuild alienage, and so on.

But like I said, it goes beyond the Origins. I play a human female mage who is mistress and Chancellor to the King. That's five different variables right there. Granted, the 'I don't know' option can probably share the 'seeing the world'. You'd have to consider, at the very least, the following:

a) race
origin
c) gender
d) Landsmeet decision (purely in regards to Alistair, Anora, or Alistair/Anora)
e) boon

From there, for females in a relationship with Alistair, it branches three ways: active, non-King romance, mistress (thus adding an Alistair hardened variable) and Queen. For human noble males, you'd have to see whether they became consort or not. You have to figure who would stand on the dias with you. No-one? The ruling party? The ones who fought against the Archdemon with you? Whatever three you asked, or everyone? Would there be differences if you're in an active romance with someone? Would it only be a love interest?


It's long and complicated. It would, however, be awesome if someone would want to take the time to create that mod. >.> I would do it, but I don't know the mechanics, I can only write dialogue and such. :/

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

They could do this with the decision of Alistair, Anora, or Alistair/Anora. Your imported character would be predetermined at this point, this would probably work better as an expansion - bigger file storage for the different option decisions of your imported character.



I agree, long and complicated however the builds for the areas are already there for this build of the game. This could work but would be time consuming. Regardless of origin every player has to make that choice of ruler.

[ejoslin]

Well, they did do that in Awakening, and there were people who just were NOT happy. Me included. My favorite character (my avatar) was the first character I imported. Married to Alistair for political reasons, in a committed "love" relationship with Zevran. Only the marriage to Alistair was taken into consideration (same thing happened to HNM who married Anora and kept Zevran on the side), the actual LI was ignored.

I ended up importing a different character only to be disappointed on that one as well, but at least not to the extent of the political marriage import. She leaves the landsmeet telling Alistair she's going to be trying for a baby with someone else, talks to that particular someone else who agrees to stay since the marriage is just political, goes off to rebuild the grey wardens with said someone else... Awakening comes, Zevran's gone, Alistair is way affectionate and calling her a minx, and I'm just shaking my head and wondering why.

I know they can't take all endings into account, but still, disappointing.

Modifié par ejoslin, 05 mai 2010 - 12:11 .

[Xandurpein]

I think that the ending for DA:O was good, but the neding for Awakening was way to abrupt. The problem with any ending is striking a balance between the generic and the specific. There is simply no way for the game to account for just what feelings go through your head at the ending.



You could add a cut scene with the warden surrounded by cheering crowds as he or she exits the throne room, but how should it be shot? Some people envision themselves smiling happily, accepting the gratitude of the adoring crowds. Others imagine themselves as sad, tired and weary heroes and that requires the cut scene to be shot in a completely different manner. How can you make the game differ between them?



What you ultimately seek is an end that captures the feelings you put into the game, but the only way to do that is probably to present things in a way that leaves a lot of things open instead.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Excdellent points here. I'd still like to see them try and give the opportunity to see some of these endings as dlc or a mini expansion. I just think it'd be fun to play and watch.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 05 mai 2010 - 07:39 .

[Sarah1281]

You could add a cut scene with the warden surrounded by cheering crowds as he or she exits the throne room, but how should it be shot? Some people envision themselves smiling happily, accepting the gratitude of the adoring crowds. Others imagine themselves as sad, tired and weary heroes and that requires the cut scene to be shot in a completely different manner. How can you make the game differ between them?

I don't think you would have to. You know you're supposed to go out and let the crowds see their hero so why would you be all mopey and scowling? Really bad taste. Regardless of how you feel, the occasion pretty much mandates smiling and waving.

[Carmen_Willow]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

This is something that I'd love to see DLC for; just to see the marriage ceremony and how hubby and I settle into life at the palace. Is my warhound busy cruising the kennels? Must have been one heck of a short honeymoon with me running off to Amaranthine to battle more dark spawn. Hmmmm, is Anora still in the dungeon? I'd love to find out the answer to this question!!!

Such is the life of royalty.  If you aren't running off to put down a rebellion, or slay darkspawn, then you're going on progress to visit all your nobles and remind them why it's a bad idea to rebel.....(plus they pay for your food, drink and lodging and saves your treasury).

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Not this royal, I had enough gold at the end to pay for my own bloody food. Hehehe!

[Maria13]

I'd be happy with a cutscene between Alistair and my female character upstairs...

But that's only going to happen in my head.