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[Pacifien]

I started thinking about this while posting to another thread, but I'm curious as to everyone's preferred tactics for various battles throughout the game.

For instance, on Haestrom with the Colossus. I've had various squad combinations consisting of Garrus, Miranda, Kasumi, Grunt, and Zaeed. My tactic in getting to the Colossus has always been the same. First, Kal'Reegar gets to play with his missile launcher. Second, I give no squad commands whatsoever. Third, I immediately go for the left side of the battlefield and cut through the Geth as quickly as possible in order to make it to the other side. By then, I almost solely concentrate on the Colossus, depending on my squadmates to keep me alive.

I do this no matter what difficulty or class I'm playing. It's probably the only time in the entire game I depend on my squadmates to do their job. It's never failed me, and Kal'Reegar has always lived.

But what about going to the right or through the middle? Being methodical and slow? I tried to go through the middle once, died just as soon as I made it to the other side, and Garrus died like he usually does. Oh right, and there was that time I tried to kill the Colossus with Charge, but I never managed it before getting too frustrated to continue. (Yes, I know it can be done.) I'm just curious as to what other strategies have worked for others.

Horizon is another battle I'm quite curious about because that one I'll actually alter depending on difficulty and class. Damn scions. (Yes, I know I can cheat and kill them while on the stairs.)

[Tlazolteotl]

Depends on class & build, really ...

I usually go along the right, get to the platform, then shoot the colossus in relative safety until it goes down.

As for horizon, I have a video uploaded of that ... but admittedly it's with an infiltrator, and I just snipe down the scions before fighting the husks.

[Pacifien]

Tlazolteotl wrote...
Depends on class & build, really ...
I usually go along the right, get to the platform, then shoot the colossus in relative safety until it goes down.
As for horizon, I have a video uploaded of that ... but admittedly it's with an infiltrator, and I just snipe down the scions before fighting the husks.

Aw, you cheater.

What do the geth do while you're sniping the colossus from the right? They all seem to come for me, but if they're not directly in front of me, I leave it for my squadmates to handle.

[Tlazolteotl]

What? Oh, you think I'd shoot the scions from outside?!

I shoot the scions from the platform on the left, where the medikit is. Infiltrator DPS is so high you can take them both down before the husks get to you.

Edit:
Oh, and once you make it to the platform on the right, you have to fight off most of 1 wave of geth.
Some of them stay on the left side, though ... so more don't spawn. Ever.
It's just you vs. colossus and then hunt down 1 or 2 stray troopers.

Modifié par Tlazolteotl, 05 mai 2010 - 04:21 .

[swk3000]

Re: Colossus - As a Soldier, I started going on the left side. However, I now take the right. The Sun makes it a risky move, but there are fewer Geth, so it's easier to move forward. Once you get far enough, there's a Med Kit and a bunch of ammo, then a little farther forward, you've got a clear shot at the Colossus. A Sniper Rifle or a Heavy Weapon will make short work of the Colossus from this vantage point.



I haven't yet reached the Colossus fight on my Vanguard, but I fully intend to use Charge and my Shotgun to kill it. Just to say I did.



As for squad members, I usually took Miranda. The other rotated between Garrus (Overload), Kasumi (Shadow Strike), Grunt (Tank), and Zaeed (Weapon Damage).



For my Vanguard, I'll probably use Garrus and Zaeed. I'll only have one Overload, but I'll have two Sniper Rifles. Start them off with Assault Rifles to clear out the Geth near the starting point, then switch to Sniper Rifles and have them target the Colossus from long range while I take it on at point-blank range.



Re: Horizon - My strategy at this point is half cheating and half legit. I'm at the point where I take out one of the two Scions from the door, then head in and deal with the rest normally. One Scion and some Husks I can deal with. Two Scions and some Husks is more work than I'm willing to do.



As for my party, it's usually either Miranda/Grunt, or Miranda/Mordin.

[Tlazolteotl]

I recommend the avalanche if ever anyone has issues with husks. It really is quite cool.

I don't use heavy weapons for the videos I record, though. It's not like there's anything to learn from that. "save up hw ammo for using the cain" is poor strategy.

[FoFoZem]

I agree with Tlazolteotl on that your particular class and build can dramatically affect your combat logistics.



I am currently playing a Strategic Control Soldier, as I like to call it, and just the build alone means that I am playing almost every battle differently from other playthroughs.



With the Colossus, though, my general strategy is to eliminate and immediate enemies on or near my right flank. Then I supress the geth that are funneling down the middle until I see an opening. Then I switch my squaddies to their more rapid-firing weapon and have them lay down fire in a defensive position while I establish a foundation on the left side of the map. From that area with the palladium I hold my position until I have dealt with the two Geth Destroyers. I advance to the colossus and take out its shields with any Heavy Weapon Ammo I have remaining at that point. I focus on the Colossus but I unload on any enemy that enters my safety threshold. It's a fairly simple battle but it's fun.



With an Infiltrator or Engineer I tend to take the right but I consider the left to be the most tenable path to completion of the mission.

[mosor]

With the colossus, with any class, I go middle, kill the geth there, then I go left and kill the geth there and finally I kill the few remaining on the right catwalk. I set myself on the sniper perch on the right side and just machine gun it's shields, they don't regenerate there. Then I just use my powers, heavy pistol or sniper rifle and wear down the armor. The perch give good cover. Squadmates, that depends on the class. Uusually miranda or garrus + Zaeed if I don't have disruptor.



Horizon Scion battle, I usually take mordin and miranda. I know some people think they need a tank like grunt, but mordin is pretty durable and deals a ton of damage with his incineration blast if you have his omni tool researched. I send mordin and miranda to take cover in the open truck while I go to the balcony to give the scions multiple targets. I usually play adept, so I cast heavy singularity to slow em down and just bomb the scions with the incinerate warps and heavy pistol from the balcony.

[Kid_SixXx]

For Tali's recruitment mission on Haestrom, I tend to stick with Garrus and Mordin and I used the Avalance before the Arc Projector DLC came out. I used the Arc Projector on a second playthrough.  I used the Avalance on enemies sitting in groups, but the Arc Projector adds the perk of doing lots of damage to synthetics as well as taking down enemies attacking in close formations.

Firstly, I tell Kal'Reegar to stay put..

I play a Soldier so I take point while Garrus and Mordin stay in cover. After we deal with the Geth in the center section, we sweep to the right and pick our way to the Sniper's Nest.

I park Mordin and Garrus at the sniper vantage point and position myself on the ledge to the right of the Colossus.

I usually take the time to do N7 missions and planet scan for minerals so that I have money / raw materials to get at least 2/5 weapon damage mods for the Sniper Rifle and the Sub-Machine Gun, as well as the AP mod for the SR and the Shield Damage mod for the SMG.

I equip everyone's rapid-fire weapons and we all work down the Colossus's shields .  When they drop, I switch to the Arc Projector while I equip Garrus's sniper rifle and Mordin's heavy pistol so that we can work on bringing the armor down.

Garrus can usually take out the Colossus's armor in two or three shots with the sniper rifle, and Mordin's Incinerate tech helps speed that process along.

Depending on how much time I have to let the Arc Projector charge up, I can usually destroy it in one blast after the shields and armor are gone.

Modifié par Kid_SixXx, 05 mai 2010 - 02:55 .

[Kid_SixXx]

As for the Horizon battle, I usually take Miranda and Garrus.

Garrus's sniper rifle usually chews through Scion armor so I try to position him at the best vantage points (usually elevated sections of the battlefield if I can get to it), but sometimes the AI of the game doesn't listen to me, and Garrus just wanders from place to place and gets his butt shot off.

Miranda is there to use Warp on Collector barriers. Since there are usually more armored enemies than shielded ones, I stick with Incinerate Ammo and tend to use the shotgun a lot,

Except when dealing with Scions. Then it is Incinerate Ammo and a Sniper Rifle for me so that I can keep some distance.

Husks are no problem. I like to melee with them and then blast them with the shotgun when they are staggered. Miranda and Garrus are there to provide cover fire while I take care of things up close and personal.

The most important thing in that scenario is figuring out which cover is safe and which cover is crap. I try to keep my troops on the raised platforms or bridges that connect structures and not on level ground. If I place my folks properly, they tend not to suffer damage from the Scion biotic shockwaves.

Modifié par Kid_SixXx, 05 mai 2010 - 02:54 .

[IMethos]

I go to the right, of course garrus dies...but i spam a few medi-gel to get them back up. Basically just kill kill kill and handle the colussos with arc projector and Hand Cannon (GREAT for armor)

[kiltysue]

Paragon, so I ask quarian marine to stand down for the points.



At start, I place squad behind initial cover, with me farthest to right

on our starting platform with Kal Reeger. From there, we clear a couple

of waves of geth to get a feel for respawn rhythm, and take colossus

shields down 50% (which does not trigger self-repair).



When a geth spawn cycle ends, I run (or charge depending on class) to

far right, repeatedly asking squad to follow. We then emplace on far

right, me on point, detailed place of squad behind (keybinds are nice!).

Hopscotch forward because it's fun, Shepherd eventually in sniper

perch, squad placed nearer opening to hold off geth from cover (that

they have been specifically placed in).



From that point, I guess you can easy win with heavy weapons. But

it's such a fun spot! I usually use a pistol on Colossus to make this

part last a little while. Helping out squad if they're under heavy pressure

from Geth.



That works really well for adept/vanguard/infiltrator/sentinel, even level 30

new game plus. Squad, Miranda and another overload if you want easy mode.

I tend to use Miranda and Samara because I like their vocalizations!

[OniGanon]

I send Zaeed to the cover in front down the ramp, while Garrus goes to the right side of the starting platform with his sniper rifle, I charge to the cover right of Zaeed, wait for a Colosses blast, charge up the ramp on the right hand side of the map. I take out the Geth in front, and Garrus and Zaeed make sure none come up behind me. I snipe the Geth down and advance up this side, and call the squad up when I'm partway through.



After the Destroyer is down and you're in the shade, I set both squaddies to watch the ramp so I don't get flanked, then I continue along the platform until there is a large pillar on the left with the Colossus behind it. Here, I kill any Geth I see and find the position such that I can see part of the Colossus but it is thoroughly unable to hit me because of that pillar. Then I kill it at my leisure. Easy.

[Daforth]

Most of my chars are assault sentinels (with shotgun) and I don't use heavy weapon on them (taken out in Coalesced, only Soldier and Adept have it in my ini file). Tungsten Ammo as bonus power.

At Horizon, in first battle I put the squad onto the platform right left to the entrance and alternating between husks and Scions (CQC for husks, range for Scions). After the comp hacking I put the squad onto the platform left side of the area (between the two houses) and clear the collectors/husks meanwhile keeping the Harbinger shutdown with Kasumi's Improved Flasbang Grenade. After this wave I call down the squad and prep for the husks on the platform then clear them. When no husks (quite fast clear with assault sentinel) put the squad back to the platfrom, start soften up the collectors (same handling to the Harbinger as before), then clear them. During the Praetorian the most important thing is that keep it focus on me while switch position frequently. I don;t care how long it lasts (ammos are respawning) I go for safe play and don't lose squadies (which happened earlier as if I do not watch them they tend to stay in too close when the Praetorian renew his barrier).

On Haelstorm I usually stand Kal down and put the squadies beside him. After some clearup in the middle I push forward right side, wait for the Destroyer appear before reach the end and eliminate it. When I am close to the possition I call the squadies, and wear down the Colossus, then clear up the remaining Geth, if any. (On Insanity it is one of the best fights btw).

For all Collector missions I always bring Mordin and Kasumi along, Incineration Blast is a beast, Improved Flashbang completely nullifies the Harbinger. (And Mordin is NOT squisy, after he has the passive skill maxed out and some Damage Protection upgrade he has very good shield, and Mordin IS smart, no kidding, somehow he moves smarter than e.g. Miranda or Garrus, who did holy**** stupid moves if I left them alone)

For Geth Missions, Garrus with Area Overload is always in my team, the other one changes.

Modifié par Daforth, 05 mai 2010 - 08:02 .

[mi55ter]

Pacifien wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...
Depends on class & build, really ...
I usually go along the right, get to the platform, then shoot the colossus in relative safety until it goes down.
As for horizon, I have a video uploaded of that ... but admittedly it's with an infiltrator, and I just snipe down the scions before fighting the husks.

Aw, you cheater.

What do the geth do while you're sniping the colossus from the right? They all seem to come for me, but if they're not directly in front of me, I leave it for my squadmates to handle.

Check out the OP's videos in his sig, they give me ideas on how to do things

[mi55ter]

I usually go up the right hand side. I'll tell Keegar to stand down (usually play paragon) and take Kasumi with me and someone else with overload. I piggyback them around and hide them out of the way when I make my move from the center to the right. Taking energy drain as my bonus power makes things much easier. When you finally make it to the end of the right hand side, I make sure to not cross over the little doorway that's there. I think that's the trick to not making the Colossuss turn towards you. Just plink away at him from there.

[OniGanon]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
With or without the help of the badassest Quarian in the game!

Shala'Raan?

[mcsupersport]

Reager always sits out the Colossus fight for me.

I started playing going left, but after discovering the right now that is the only way i go.



Last time through, with Adept, Kasumi, and Miranda, bonus power Shield Drain. My oh my, that was an easy fight as a whole. First knock back the enemies in the center and left, then bolt right, use cover and work up until you get a shot at the Colosus. Get your team to cover your flank and rear, may have to revive them, but once set killing time. I usually Cain the Colosus at the end, but this time didn't need too, because of two overloads, one shield drain combos kill his shields VERY fast(plus Shield drains acts same as overload on mechs) then two warps kill his armor almost as fast as Cain. So my new favorite team for Tali recruitment is Miranda and Kasumi.



Vanguards make going right even easier, since you can jump large areas with charge to get where you want to be. The only times I have went left, the fight was much harder, and more prolonged, hate the infinite spawns, very stupid design in my book.

[FoFoZem]

^ 2 warps destroyed the colossus' armor?

[mcsupersport]

FoFoZem wrote...

^ 2 warps destroyed the colossus' armor?

No, I as an adept have warp, plus Miranda has Warp, so it is just chain warps until death.  I fired less than 10 bullets at the thing to kill it, and no heavy weapons.

Miranda had level 3 Overload, and level 2-3 Warp.
Kasumi had level 2 Overload and 3 Shadowstrike.
I had heavy Warp(4), level 2 Energy Drain, plus of course the rest of Adepts usually asortment.

So it was Overload, overload, and Drain in succession until the Shield drops, since there were three characters casting, it was pretty fast chain of casts.  Then once shield drops, it was warps by two characters in chain repeating until dead.