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#101
sassperella

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People on here are complaining about this dlc as if they have an entitlement to get the dlc they personally want. There are a lot of people that like this idea and are looking forward to it. If they'd released a leliaina romance dlc there would have been all the zevran fans moaning and vice versa. Whatever they release there will always be people that don't like it.



If you don't like it, don't buy it. Sales or lack thereof speak loader than a million words on this forum and if enough people don't buy it they'll rethink their ideas. If enough people buy it then there's enough interest that the complainers will just have to realise that some dlc they have to sit out.



Yes most people get why you don't like it, and they understand, but at the end of the day, you get what Bioware make and if you like you buy if you don't you wait for the next one.

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What if you are suppose to try and control the "rage" of the darkspawn. Like in BG2 when you start changing? So yes this could be an important part of the story. I don't know just a guess. The trailers always has things a little bit goofy to play on emotions.

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I'd like an educated guess here - Will Darkspawn chronicles have any relevance to Awakening you think? I've yet to get that expansion (as I was told I should wait for patch-fixes before playing)



I mean, I know you'll be the 'evil guys' but I don't wanna take the risk of ruining the story for myself.

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tom2504 wrote...

I'd like an educated guess here - Will Darkspawn chronicles have any relevance to Awakening you think? I've yet to get that expansion (as I was told I should wait for patch-fixes before playing)

I mean, I know you'll be the 'evil guys' but I don't wanna take the risk of ruining the story for myself.


No, it's a replay of the ending Origins battle in Denerim, but from the Darkspawn's perspective. BioWare has basically said that it's standalone - alternate universe - with no effect to the rest of our game.

And still...

Do. Not. Want.

Modifié par AnniLau, 13 mai 2010 - 03:07 .


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sassperella wrote...

Yes most people get why you don't like it, and they understand, but at the end of the day, you get what Bioware make and if you like you buy if you don't you wait for the next one.

Is stating the obvious really necessary?

The forum exists to discuss the games.  I suppose we could all "shut up and play" or don't play, but that would pretty much make the forums irrelevant, eh?

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sassperella wrote...

People on here are complaining about this dlc as if they have an entitlement to get the dlc they personally want. There are a lot of people that like this idea and are looking forward to it. If they'd released a leliaina romance dlc there would have been all the zevran fans moaning and vice versa. Whatever they release there will always be people that don't like it.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Sales or lack thereof speak loader than a million words on this forum and if enough people don't buy it they'll rethink their ideas. If enough people buy it then there's enough interest that the complainers will just have to realise that some dlc they have to sit out.

Yes most people get why you don't like it, and they understand, but at the end of the day, you get what Bioware make and if you like you buy if you don't you wait for the next one.


I'm guessing, though, that BioWare loves to have responses in this forum, so that they can compare actual sales to the chatter in this thread an others like it.  This is the place where we get to tell them why we don't want to buy it.  If enough people buy and like it, so be it.  I don't begrudge anyone that....if enough don't buy it and explain why on this forum, BioWare will have a clearer idea of what went wrong.  Sounds like a win-win scenario to me.

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People on here are complaining about this dlc as if they have an entitlement to get the dlc they personally want. 


Not true. I didn't personally want a darkspawn DlC, but as I said, although it's something I never personally asked for, I would have played a darkspawn DlC where I got to roleplay sentient darkspawn. This is not an opportunity for that. It's a minigame where I'm using nameless darkspawn puppets in a massive warhammer style battle. 

Now BTW as the end of the official announcement they said: "We want to hear from fans about what kinds of DlC they do and don't like". 

So that's exactly what I'm doing: telling them what I don't like, and going further, and being specific as to why, so maybe they might get an idea of what I would like. 

DlC for a roleplaying game that involve roleplaying. Imagine that! 

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Yeah, I agree with that. I want something where I get to choose which permutation of a story occurs. Right now, my best hope is that there are more cutscenes than are currently implied. Something that will give interesting insights into your companions or the darkspawn. However, I'm not forseeing a lot of choice in this DLC. Still. Hoping for some dialogue from the companions. That will mitigate things for me a bit.

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So I watched the interview with the lead DLC production guy yesterday. Apparently this is a new concept they're trying out. He also mentioned that there will be no dialog as such and that you can gain respect and fear from your darkspawn thralls by killing innocents. The one thing that did intrigue me was that at one point Ogrhen is suppose to run out of a tavern with a bunch of dwarfs to battle you. Battling a bunch of drunken dwarfs sounds like a hoot. I think I may purchase this, but let a friend of mine play it just to see how it plays out. I just can't stomach the whole "killing innocent" thing. My friend, however, is a lawyer. He'll love it!

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sleepingbelow wrote...

I just want to make sure I understand, is the reason that everybody's pissed off because this DLC is about killing beloved companions, or because it is likely not going to have a significant plot or contribution to the plot and just be a series of combat encounters, a combination of those, or a different reason all together?
Yay run-on sentence.


For me it's the no plot hack and slash issue that has me not interested in this DLC. As others have said, I'd be fine with playing a darker character and killing my former companions if there was a story driven reason to do so, like playing Loghain or a Loghain supporter. Or playing one of the intelligent darkspawn from Awakenings.

Someone upthread mentioned GTA games (Cybant, I think), and I just wanted to say, I love the GTA franchise. You do play a hardened criminal in those games and you kill lots and lots of people. But the stories and characters are well written, and while not an RPG, it is possible to get into the character's head and feel their world from their point of view. The killing is only mindless if you choose to engage in murdering random NPCs on the street while not doing a mission: you are mostly killing other criminals or cops as part of the story missions. My point being, this darkspawn DLC is too mindless hack and slash for this GTA fan. I suppose the kind of people who enjoy murdering random NPCs in GTA are the kind of people who will enjoy Darkspawn Chronicles. But for me, if I'm going to play a dark character, I want a personality and a story to go with it, not just running around killing everything I see.

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My own thought -- I looked forward to every DLC so far and have been disappointed with every DLC so far. This one, when I read about it, had me go, "Meh," instead of "Yay! Sounds like fun!" So I won't get it. I'm not crazy about RTS anyway, and all the stuff in DAO and DAOA are so good as it is, there's no need for something Even Better!



As far as complaining about it here? Why not? There's nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, we want more DAO story stuff!" Ultimately it will be the sales which determine which way they take, but DLCs like this one are probably incredibly cheap and easy to make so I expect they'll make more like this no matter what.

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sassperella wrote...

People on here are complaining about this dlc as if they have an entitlement to get the dlc they personally want. There are a lot of people that like this idea and are looking forward to it. If they'd released a leliaina romance dlc there would have been all the zevran fans moaning and vice versa. Whatever they release there will always be people that don't like it.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Sales or lack thereof speak loader than a million words on this forum and if enough people don't buy it they'll rethink their ideas. If enough people buy it then there's enough interest that the complainers will just have to realise that some dlc they have to sit out.

Yes most people get why you don't like it, and they understand, but at the end of the day, you get what Bioware make and if you like you buy if you don't you wait for the next one.


Yeah stop discussing on a discussion forum.  Only super positive suger purple fairy comments because you said so apparently.  The customer-company feedback relationship is very important, you cannot just dismiss it by saying "only sales figures" matter.  If you don't think so then you need to educate yourself about how marketing works (hint: it isn't only looking at sales numbers).  But go ahead and keep complaining about complaining.