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What you miss or don´t like in Dragon Age: Origins


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EvilPistolet

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I love this game but since I see some people are disappointed I want a thread to gather all negative prts of this game so maybe modders and other can find inspirtion to how they can make a better game experience.
Give me a list of your complaints. 

Me:

Denerim market district :  This is the only part I get to explore and I find it land and boring. I´ve never been so disappointed with a capital city, if you were to compare this with that of Amn in BG 2 this city would be nothing. I´m aware of the lore and that this city has seen a lot of war and thus it´s recently built of wood and stone etc. It´s just a dull experience walking through it, nothing special I can remember from it. I miss being able to see more exciting parts of this city,
Like exploring the docks/graveyard// poor district for humans/ a place where evil people hang out etc.

(note: I havent played city elf origin yet though, maybe the alianage is interesting)

There were no noteworthy or interesting NPC´s/ quests in the capital either.

Bioware could have copied its winning concept with Amn and added a thief/pirate/assasin city like luskan somewherre ner the barbarian coast or something like it.... Also they could have a build up so you here a lot of stories ingame about Denerim that actually make you long  to go there and see for yourself what it´s like....

(Got to say though, the pearl is an exception in criticism in this case, that one was great/hilarious)

Ferelden: When I look at the map I get a feeling something is missing..












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WickedAwesome

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I would love a much larger selection of armor and clothing.

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Shannara13

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Real sidequests rather than just a bunch of sidetasks

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I was also disappointed with Denerim. I didn't go there until I finished all of the other major quests, with the logic that I'd have this huge, epic city to explore with my beefed up characters. Instead, I got to explore a bunch of hovels and back alleys. Amn it was not.

I'd also like more varied weapons and armor. In, say, BG2, I would constantly be switching armor and weapons because of the vast array that was available as loot and in the shops. In Dragon Age, I spent huge chunks of the game with the same weapons and armor because there simply wasn't much to be found. Mass Effect had the right idea, even though it generally used the same models with different textures for many of the weapons and armor sets. I was constantly ooing and aahing over the huge amount of loot though.

That's about it. Every other aspect of the game was awesome.

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MikeStark wrote...

I was also disappointed with Denerim. I didn't go there until I finished all of the other major quests, with the logic that I'd have this huge, epic city to explore with my beefed up characters. Instead, I got to explore a bunch of hovels and back alleys. Amn it was not.

I'd also like more varied weapons and armor. In, say, BG2, I would constantly be switching armor and weapons because of the vast array that was available as loot and in the shops. In Dragon Age, I spent huge chunks of the game with the same weapons and armor because there simply wasn't much to be found. Mass Effect had the right idea, even though it generally used the same models with different textures for many of the weapons and armor sets. I was constantly ooing and aahing over the huge amount of loot though.

That's about it. Every other aspect of the game was awesome.



I thought when ME first came out the biggest complaint everyone had was they spent too much time in the inventory sorting & going through all that 'loot' 

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Akwild wrote...

I thought when ME first came out the biggest complaint everyone had was they spent too much time in the inventory sorting & going through all that 'loot' 


Really? I'm a loot fanatic though, so I love getting my hands on huge amounts of weapons and armor. I blame MMORPG's.

Modifié par MikeStark, 09 novembre 2009 - 07:58 .


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Shannara13

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I agree on the loot thing too. I dislike the fact that my characters have been using the same equipment for 10 levels or so.

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It kills the realism to fight a full plated bully mobster and then loot a deep mushroom. I doesn't feel right at all. That and looting gold from creatures like shades or wolves. Opening a LOCKED chest with only an elfroot inside. Plus, I felt like I barely received equipment or gold. All of those nice weapons and armors... that I could never afford.
Recuperating HP very quickly outside of fights as if it happened miraculously.
Having magic score useless to the warrior and rogue class and cunning pretty much the same to the warrior and mage. Why not fuse magic with cunning? Or benefit from magic as magic resistance and have some warrior and mage abilities require cunning?
Not having the choice to follow the main intrigue as a grey warden and being driven by the given story rather than our motives. For exemple, why not get the choice to side with the darkspawn? Or to have an alternate route on the way the darkspawn can be eradicated.
That, and I second people talking about exploration of the map and city of Denerim.

Modifié par BackwardCompatibility, 09 novembre 2009 - 10:02 .


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The only things I care to whine about is the distinct lack of difficult fights and the slight camera issue; sometimes you cant zoom to tactical becouse the camera gets stuck on something, and tactical itself needs to be a bit more zoomed out or able to go a little bit further away from your characters.



The only hardish fights even on nightmare is when you are forced into bad positioning by a dialogue initiated fight. Let us put our tank first in those and severely increase the difficulty of nightmare would be more fun imo!

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BackwardCompatibility wrote...

It kills the realism to fight a full plated bully mobster and then loot a deep mushroom.


Ha! That's true. The loot is lacking in this game...then again, the game isn't really about loot. It's about story and character building.

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WildstarGoethe wrote...
...then again, the game isn't really about loot. It's about story and character building.

I would say the same as you do, until I realised I kept the same helmet, amulet, ring and belt the whole game: the promo and DLC content. I bet if I had activated the blood armor, I would have kept that one too. It's quite a pity.

Modifié par BackwardCompatibility, 09 novembre 2009 - 10:28 .


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How dumbed down the 360 version is. I remember there WAS once a zoom-out option in it, but it must have got chopped at the last minute and NOBODY TOLD ME RRRRRRRRRRR



The game feels much more like FFXII than BG2. This isn't detrimental in itself but I was expecting the latter more.

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there's a few things, once you complete the game, you cant go to any of the places on the map, I would love to see this changed, it was nice in other games where you could still go back to your old areas.

A real home for your character, I was hoping Warden's Keep offered me that, but unfortunately the keep gets locked after you finish the questline.

Messages on what you loot/get, like instead of saying You have recieved an item, it would say "You have recived Health Potion" etc...

Aah yes, more to explore of the towns, Denerim was really a letdown, only one district to really explore, would have been nice with more big area's :)

Other than that, I wont really complain, the game is great :)

Modifié par Staalkbh, 09 novembre 2009 - 10:35 .


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Forwen wrote...

How dumbed down the 360 version is. I remember there WAS once a zoom-out option in it, but it must have got chopped at the last minute and NOBODY TOLD ME RRRRRRRRRRR

The game feels much more like FFXII than BG2. This isn't detrimental in itself but I was expecting the latter more.


You must have missed the gazillion posts about it on the old forums - it was taken out by August.

The console versions are remarkably easier according to reviewers who have played both, and the feel is quite different as well. I play on PC and it feels nothing like FFXII to me.

Modifié par MrGOH, 09 novembre 2009 - 10:37 .


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Forwen wrote...

How dumbed down the 360 version is. I remember there WAS once a zoom-out option in it, but it must have got chopped at the last minute and NOBODY TOLD ME RRRRRRRRRRR

The game feels much more like FFXII than BG2. This isn't detrimental in itself but I was expecting the latter more.


That was already known for a long time

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things i would like to see;

1) a respec option (i dont want to hear people ****ing about it making the game 'ez mode' -- it should be an option for those of us who want to use it)

2) when you loot a corpse, you should be able to loot everything they had equipped- armor, weapon, etc. It doesn't make much sense that an enemy wearing a full set of armor only has a 'lyrium potion' on him.

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Usable spells would be good, now I cast fireball just on the beggining, otherwise I will wipe out my party. Mage is imbalanced in wrongest way.

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First of all I just need to say I love this game. I really, really love it.

But: The xbox 360 version has some faults: The tactics screen is extremely complicated and tiresome. I constantly get tempted to just forget about it and let the characters just fight by default as I do my magic with my blood mage. My experience is that it often works better than when I try to figure out the tactics.

Also: Why no zoom in the 360 version? My guess: The developers didn't want the tweens to zoom in on the female characters barely covered boobs and asses.

Finally: No proper "home" for the characters. The camp is not a home, in BG2 we got all sorts of homes (fortress, tower, etc) and I think one should be able to get the Watchers Peak as a base.

Otherwise a great game through and through.

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Yeah sure, it is not realistic one loots a mushroom from a fullplated warrior, but neither is being able to carry 6 fullplates, so I guess that equels down that problem :)

If there is one thing I could change or ad, it would be a multiplayer, The day, month and years I've spend on dedicated worlds build from NWN bring back very fond memories.

Spoiler

as storywise, there is a moment in redcliff castle we Morrigan gets mad at you for not asking her if she wants to enter the fade. Well I actualy tried to ask her that, but it wasn't an option. Naughty, naughty Bioware for setting us up, as if it isn't hard enough to keep Morrigan pleased as a goody 2 shoes.

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BackwardCompatibility wrote...

WildstarGoethe wrote...
...then again, the game isn't really about loot. It's about story and character building.

I would say the same as you do, until I realised I kept the same helmet, amulet, ring and belt the whole game: the promo and DLC content. I bet if I had activated the blood armor, I would have kept that one too. It's quite a pity.


I am disappoint.

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I agree the "big city" is a little small... I wanted large areas of it to explore, with endless npcs to talk to... The Citadel in Mass Effect was also a bit smaller than I would have liked (and the only city in the game!). Oblivion's Imperial City was also pretty dinky for what it was supposed to be...



I am guessing massive, amazing cities are hard to do in 3D. Morrowind did pretty well with Vivec though, in my opinion.



As for other dissapointments, more varied armor designs would be nice, though I am not at the end of the game yet. My rogue has been wearing the same gladiator outfit the whole game... I would like to get her a sleek black assassin outfit or something, but I worry it will never come.



Other than that, 10 out of 10.

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I agree that the loot system needs a major overhaul. While I do not expect for every mob to drop tons of stuff, at least dropping what they would appear to have equipped and any plot items would be nice. Nothing worse than killing an orange challenge level creature, to only get an elfroot or a few coppers. Not even that nice weapon they killed half your party with. While I don't expect to have so much money that there is no challenge, we could definitely use a little more loot on the whole.



Other than this, this is one of the best games I have played in a very long time. Great work Bioware, and well worth the wait.

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Shannara13 wrote...

I agree on the loot thing too. I dislike the fact that my characters have been using the same equipment for 10 levels or so.


 I haven't had this problem, I've worn heavy battle armor red steel, juggernaut, blood dragon, drake scale, dragon scale. I've gone through so much armor. My only complaint is that so far Blood Dragon Armor which I got around lv7 or 8 is the best by far.

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It's interesting how people may have completely opposing tastes. (The mere fact is not surprising but its manifestation sometimes is.) As for me, I'm grateful for being spared all the loot, item-hoarding and equipment-customizing.



Like it was not enough to customize my own real equipment every morning according to whether it is raining or not. Last week, I perhaps took a wrong set of armor and got flu. Or maybe it was just virus cought in mass transit in which case I should have used anti-flu potion before entering that location.

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I Like the loot alot as it is. I do not switch often but at level 8 now I have switched armors or weapons or other items 4-5 times on each character. I don´t mind wearing the same items for several levels. Feels much more fitting to the lore and the world. Like somebody else said: This is not a loot game.

So far I agree on Denerim though.
My gripes are mostly more technical: The Number of tactic slots is too low. It is annoying as hell to spend character building points to unlock AI customization slots. Really? Whats the point besides being a Pointsink? Unlock them all from the start please! Next in line: Inventory. Please give me the box in my camp, thank you. Biggest gripe so far is the number of NPCs. Please give me one more Party slot. At the moment  I feel like I am locked into always choosing the "best" so I do not switch around alot. I basically have the basic setup me rogue Alistair Tank Morrigan Mage. One slot for a DPS warrior, ATM Shale. Dog? Leliana? No room to take them because I feel I would "gimp" myself. Too bad. One slot more would be OK, 6 total would be perfect.

Modifié par Teron, 09 novembre 2009 - 02:16 .