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Is there more to cunning that meets the eye?


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Quercus

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Strength: adds physical attack & hit rate for melee attacks.
Dexterity: Adds doge rate, hit rate and increase dmg from daggers & arrows.
Willpower: Adds more mana & stamina.
Magic: Increases spell power & effect of potion, poultices, salves.
Constitution: increases HP.
Cunning: increases wut? effects wut? herbalism?

Just would like to know the usefullness of "cunning" besides that you need it as a prerequirment for certain skills and talents.

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Robert Emerald

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I'll be investing a lot in cunning just for the "persuasion" skill. You can never have too many friends!

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Arandomindividual

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Cunning can open new possible outcomes to situations. Outcomes you wouldn't get if you weren't such a cunning sod.

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Robert Emerald wrote...

You can never have too many friends!

Unless you've got more friends than you do chairs. If you have people over and can't seat everyone, you have failed your guests. This is why I get into such terrible arguments whenever one of my chairs break.

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Well, it says that it determines how well a character learns and reasons. Maybe it also increases the amount of experience you gain? It's used for Persuasive dialogue checks as well.

Also, it's used to more easily find weaknesses in enemy armor. Not sure what this means exactly, but perhaps it increases your chance for critical strikes.

One of the more notable uses is for rogue, as rogues have a talent called Lethality allowing them to use Cunning to affect attack damage in place of Strength, that is if the cunning score is greater.

Modifié par Cromalic, 20 octobre 2009 - 11:37 .


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Mordaedil

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I believe cunning affects certain abilities that can be used in combat. Think shield bash, except you use a mixture of charisma and intelligence from ol' D&D to mess with your enemy. Think bluff with some thought in it.

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Cromalic wrote...

Also, it's used to more easily find weaknesses in enemy armor. Not sure what this means exactly, but perhaps it increases your chance for critical strikes.

Probably referring to Armor Penetration.

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It is also used for combat tactics and this could be very important for a mage. The more of that skill you have the more slots you get. It's similar to the gambit system in FF12. All mages should have a cunning of 16 but if you pre-ordered the deluxe edition you could get away with 13.

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I know its a prerequirment for skills and talens, but that also counts for the other atributes.



I wonder how much effect it has for dialoges though, since Coersion seems pretty much effecting it as a whole.



I also thought it might increase crit or armour penetration, but these arnt sure.

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willtraverse wrote...

Cromalic wrote...

Also, it's used to more easily find weaknesses in enemy armor. Not sure what this means exactly, but perhaps it increases your chance for critical strikes.

Probably referring to Armor Penetration.

yup, cunning gives you armour penetration, meaning that you can discount some of your opponents armour, doing more damage without any actual stats on how well it will work its hard to say how useful it will be for that particular effect. however going on Chris Preistly's rogue who has only a little more cunning than strength i doubt its particularly important especially for warriors, i think as far as warrior's are concerned they are better off just sticking to strength to increase their base damage.

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Sword For Hire

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There is also the mention of your opponents passing a physical resistance check, from the warrior's tier 4 2handed sweep.  There is a physical resistance check, to prevent foes from being knocked down then there might be one for you. It might be based off of constitution, although there could be a strength + constitution formula.  If all that is the case might as well tag that to more use out of con :P

i'll still be stacking strength though for the first run through

Modifié par Sword For Hire, 20 octobre 2009 - 12:11 .


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I see cunning as the "get me stuff" attribute. You need it for convincing people to give you better rewards, allows you to steal from them, and you need it to unlock chests to get their loot. The fact that it can replace strength attack damage and it's used to unlock combat tactics are just bonuses.

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Agreed. It's like a 'lucky' type stats almost in some situations I believe. In some scenarios it'll "get you things", yeah.

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Lucy Glitter

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This is begging for a link to the Transformers theme song.

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Mordaedil

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

This is begging for a link to the Transformers theme song.

Have a total of three of them. Trans-Cunnilingus.

Now, murder me for that terrible pun.

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Twitchmonkey

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Also, stealth is dependent on cunning, and that's a major thing for a lot of rogues.

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Adrigaar wrote...

willtraverse wrote...

Cromalic wrote...

Also, it's used to more easily find weaknesses in enemy armor. Not sure what this means exactly, but perhaps it increases your chance for critical strikes.

Probably referring to Armor Penetration.

yup, cunning gives you armour penetration, meaning that you can discount some of your opponents armour, doing more damage without any actual stats on how well it will work its hard to say how useful it will be for that particular effect. however going on Chris Preistly's rogue who has only a little more cunning than strength i doubt its particularly important especially for warriors, i think as far as warrior's are concerned they are better off just sticking to strength to increase their base damage.


Different types of builds. Priestly was clearly going for a chain rogue build. He likes spamming abilities constantly.