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New Warden or Continuation?


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Mythrael

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Would you rather play your old character in DA 2 or start a new one? Personally I would rather begin anew with several new origin stories and races like being a qunari. The actions you performed in DAO and Awakenings should carry over, however, so you can see the long term repercussions of your actions, like Morrigan for example.

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Tinxa

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I'm all for the new. I'm pretty tired of darkspawn as the main enemy and I'd like a break from being a GW. I'd also like to see some new origin stories and I hope they keep that feature in new games.

I don't think the actions should carry over, it's just too complicated with all the choices available, so only a couple of commoners chatting about the main events in Ferelden would be enough for me.

Basically I'm hoping for a whole new story that is just set in the same world.

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ashez2ashes

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I'm pretty much anti everything Tinxa says. lol

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Herr Uhl

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New PC. Hopefully not a warden.

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KnightofPhoenix

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I would say a new one, but if the sequel is going to deal with Morrigan (and it better), then I would be very dissapointed if this romance plot is not given closure with us playing our old character.

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ashez2ashes wrote...

I'm pretty much anti everything Tinxa says. lol


Yep, same.

In my mind that wouldn't even be a true sequel. Just a loosely connected game set in the same universe.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 07 mai 2010 - 12:40 .


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I like the continuation character. You have a history and companions and merely people that you met in the first game.

Though I would perfer a new threat and villian. DS were fine but its time to move on.

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It was said they built a new world where they could tell different stories for a whole franchise of games and they chose a more traditional setting (Ferelden) to introduce the world and new races to the players. Now that we're introduced I see no reason why not play through a different story. There's a lot more going on in Thedas than just Grey Wardens and Blights that I would like to see explored in future games.

That said I won't be kicking and screaming if DA2 ends up being about GW again, because I really liked DA and if the new story is as engrossing I'll be more than pleased :)

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Tinxa wrote...

It was said they built a new world where they could tell different stories for a whole franchise of games and they chose a more traditional setting (Ferelden) to introduce the world and new races to the players. Now that we're introduced I see no reason why not play through a different story. There's a lot more going on in Thedas than just Grey Wardens and Blights that I would like to see explored in future games.
That said I won't be kicking and screaming if DA2 ends up being about GW again, because I really liked DA and if the new story is as engrossing I'll be more than pleased :)


See, I'm different. I die a little inside anytime somebody mentions playing a new character and the accompanying thought that I'll never get any closure on the Morrigan storyline with my original character.

It's nothing personal. =P

EDIT: That said I agree with wanting to see more than just Grey Wardens and Blights, and the end of Awakenings seems to be setting that up nicely with your Warden - no matter his ultimate destination - leaving the Wardens (and the monarchy, if you went for that) and dissppearing off to do whatever.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 07 mai 2010 - 12:59 .


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Xolah

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If there are no dark spawn in DA2 then my money is on war against ((Insert name of a country)).

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I'm fine with new. Gives me an excuse to play even more dwarves. I would like a freaking dwarf romance at some point and if that requires a new character, I'm all for it.

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Mythrael

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I just find it interesting that there were seven old gods and then four blights before the events of DA. Maybe they will make it a trilogy with the last blight being the last game. I find myself curious about the Black City as well.

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I agree with Tinxa entirely.
Develop Thedas--and give new locations, enemies, and origin stories!  :wizard:  Being a Warden was fun, but a change would be better. 

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luk3us

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I'd like playing a character that isn't a warden. :)



Not a darkspawn either.

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I don't see how they can continue the story. It's pretty much wrapped up. You rallied the different races, beat the stuffing out of the Blight, and save Ferelden (and other countries) for the next century or more. Great, now that the warden's job is done and he'll basically be dead by the time the next Blight shows up, let's go do something else with another character in a new setting.

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I can see the attraction to starting over, since Awakenings brought in some pretty broken class skills to the game.  If they continued building off of it, they'd have to rebalance combat quite a bit to keep the game entertaining.

That said...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I would say a new one, but if the sequel is going to deal with Morrigan (and it better), then I would be very dissapointed if this romance plot is not given closure with us playing our old character.

Pretty much this.

If they're building on the Morrigan storyline, bringing back the PC is a must!  It would be pretty brutal to leave the DAO cliffhanger unfinished... 

If they're going on to something else, then by all means bring on a new PC. 

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I'd like to continue with my Amell.





Just because you're a Warden doesn't mean you can't fight other things. I, for one, would love to fight off the Chantry trying to take over Thedas, or hell, I'd even take on the Wardens themselves- they're not an order of pure, peerless beings with no faults. The main point of you being a Warden is to fight the Blight, but your usefulness does not end with your ability to slay the Archdemon and track darkspawn. You are a creature of immense social and political standing at the end of the game, and the possibilities are endless (unless you're a female warden trying to make babies with Alistair).

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All of my characters were so over the Warden thing by the end of game. They'd stopped the Blight and so their duty was done. The fact they consented to take a few moths out of their lives to sort out the mess at Amaranthine was already more than they wanted to do. They all have their own happy ending doing whatever it is they'd rather be doing and if all of that is torn away from them because everybody else in the entire freaking country is helpless...I'd rather my characters keep their happy endings and find someone new.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

All of my characters were so over the Warden thing by the end of game. They'd stopped the Blight and so their duty was done. The fact they consented to take a few moths out of their lives to sort out the mess at Amaranthine was already more than they wanted to do. They all have their own happy ending doing whatever it is they'd rather be doing and if all of that is torn away from them because everybody else in the entire freaking country is helpless...I'd rather my characters keep their happy endings and find someone new.


I imagined that someone had to haul my Amell over their shoulder and literally carry them most of the way to the Keep. She wanted to stay in Denerim with Alistair and keep chancelloring (and mistressing, as it were) but yet somehow, once again, Thedas is incapable of so much as blowing its own nose without the Warden there to help them.

I think i'm starting to be torn on the issue. If the new game allows us to be free agents and not actively Wardens, then I want my old PC back, because I love her and stuff. But if the game expects me to be all HEIGH HO WARDENS without even the option to be like 'qtf I don't want to be here!!1!!' then give me someone new. Even Awakenings allows you a dialogue option to say that it wasn't your idea to be there- at least my mistress/chancellor Amell was able to tell Alistair that. I don't remember if my other mage with Queen Anora could say the same thing.

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I want both.



My canon Warden's save is far from over personally. He's left power, stability, and more twice over now chasing down a certain someone who ditched Ferelden. A certain someone who also has an AMAZING plot-hook that could add some major enjoyability (and could end in blood and tears just as well as a happy(ish) ending) and would be majorly dissapointed if I couldn't get personal closure on his story and instead had to do it with another fresh character.



On the other hand, I totally respect the players who have had their stories run from start to completion and do not want them messed with. You have players in the game who can run anywhere from new Royalty to six feet under the ground and brushing that aside would be just as insulting as not allowing me my closure, imho.



What I want them to do is give us the option to continue IF WE WANT. Bioware doesn't have to keep track of every little decision in your playthrough and then alter the new game to effect it. They kept a collection of Choice Flags during your game, and if you look at the big ones that couldn't be ignored you really are left with only a small handful of things that 'must' be addressed. The major ending one, and then a small scattering of larger overall choices. This isn't too huge for a team that made a 100+ hour epic when everyone said it was impossible - too much money, too much work, technology couldn't handle it, pipedream to service the customers, yadda yadda. If BW wants this, they'll make it work. I have faith, unless EA gets in the way.



Factor in Ferelden is done as well. There's been enough hints they have given us that a storm is really brewing, and it's not just located in one notch of the world. From the very beginning of the mage origin to awakenings it's strongly hinted that a fractioning is going to happen, and the Chantry and Templars aren't going to take that kindly. The Qunari are going to go to war. The DR is going to be canonized, it's just a matter of how as to keep as many players happy, and that's going to open up one HUGE fracas. Somethings going on with Orlais, and the Darkspawn are getting more clever and more desperate yet the whispers of another Blight are already starting, and the Dragon Cults are rising again.



There's more than enough to keep it from a 'Warden's vs the Blight, Part 2', be it weathered veteran of the Ferelden Wars or fresh faced berk ready to start the Hero's Journey.



They told us our choices would matter, I hope that still matters to them because it does to me.

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Tinxa wrote...

I'm all for the new. I'm pretty tired of darkspawn as the main enemy and I'd like a break from being a GW. I'd also like to see some new origin stories and I hope they keep that feature in new games.
I don't think the actions should carry over, it's just too complicated with all the choices available, so only a couple of commoners chatting about the main events in Ferelden would be enough for me.
Basically I'm hoping for a whole new story that is just set in the same world.


I completely disagree with this.

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Personally, I'm hoping that DA2 has origins. I think that's a really great concept that adds replay value and helps you get to know your character better. If it does have origins, maybe one of those origins could be that your character is a Grey Warden, whether that's the DA1 Warden, the Orlesian Awakenings Warden, or a new character.

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Old one, please! My default's story is far from over, although he's bid good riddance to his life as a Grey Warden. We have hints in the game that there is a true storm brewing, and the blight is only a small part of it. What's the real deal with the Old Gods? The nature of the Fade? The qunari invasion? Is something really going on at Cumberland? Will the Dalish start to put down that chip on their shoulder now that they have land? Are the people going to accept the 'fixed' social issues so easily? There are plenty of things your PC could be doing, you don't really need a blight/darkspawn issue for the next game if that's a bit repetitive. (And it is. It's not over yet, but we need a break.)



I'd like to see some of your 'good' choices come down on your head, even if it's not set in Ferelden. Events in one country has effects on another, particularly a neighbouring one. I understand how mileage could vary, however, and understand that there are people who don't want to drag their PCs out of their happy endings. We should still have the option, though, for those of us who still has to finish up the resolution with Morrigan and/or think our Warden is still too young to retire. If ME3 promises to carry your actions over regardless of whether Shepard lives or die, I don't see why that would not be possible with DA2. DA2's likely to be a more complex game, true, but I'd give up some hours of play time for more variety of dynamic responses.



P.S. Re Morrigan, however---while I would love to see a conclusion for my PC's romance with her, I'd actually be okay with a 'you can't always get what you want' bad end if it's properly concluded. Just let me ask her why. If the answer is silence, my Warden could live with it. He'd just like to see her again.....even if it's not enough to drop being a chancellor, cough. He's a practical man, after all.

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Continuation for me, especially if Morrigan comes back in DA2.



That romance left us with a lot of unanswered questions and is in dire need of a closure.

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On the ending where the warden dies, I like to start anew if she can't be revived properly, meaning a proper explanaition to why she's alive



But for the rest, I like to see continuation.