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[MindYerBeak]

A little birdy told me that the Mad Mage has it in his possession. It's the book he talks about. I haven't tried it since I plumped for the acorn. I don't know whether you need to kill him for it, or whether you can offer him another juicy, shiny bauble to get it. There you go, an answer for an answer. Ask me a question, go on, I dare you.

[MindYerBeak]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

DragonOfWhiteThunder wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

There are 3 ways of becoming a Blood Mage. One way is in the Brecilian Forest...

Could you elaborate? I wasn't aware that any methods to unlock Blood Mage other than the Fade existed. A quick look on the Wiki reveals there's a manual you can purchase if you have Awakening, but I'm not finding anything about the Brecilian Forest.

Well, here's one method: in Circle tower you meet a possessed templar and a Desire demon. It's not far from Sloth demon's trap. You can make a deal with desire demon, so she leaves with her templar and teaches you to become a Blood Mage.

I've let her go free several times, but she's never taught me to become a Blood Mage. Unless you mean you meet her again in the Fade at Redcliffe?

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 30 mai 2010 - 04:11 .

[MindYerBeak]

Wicked 702 wrote...

There aren't. He's wrong.
Origins has only one method of obtaining Blood Mage and it's already been detailed here.

What about the Quest for the Sacred Ashes? Doesn't that allow you to become a Blood Mage? I'm fairly sure it does. You need to agree with Kolgrim The Cheeky.

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 30 mai 2010 - 04:17 .

[Verly]

that's not a blood mage Kolgrim teaches you Reaver

[MindYerBeak]

Goshdurn it, I'm a Mage. I'll kick his butt later.



There you go, an answer for an answer. Ask me a question, go on, I dare you.

[MindYerBeak]

A little birdy also told me that the quest to eliminate the blood mages in the Brecilian Forest was issued by none other than the Mad Mage himself. He's concerned that he will be blamed as well for being a blood mage. Perhaps killing the blood mages and then talking to the Mad Mage may yeild something. I'll try it next playthrough.

[Gecon]

Nooneyouknow13 wrote...

To be honest, I didn't even know it was possible for the fight to go on long enough for Irving to be turned.

It has nothing to do with length of fight; when the boss mob is at certain percentages of health, he will summon an ally. If you dont lose the litany, one of the mages turns into an Abomination. If you NEVER disrupt him with the littany, Irving will be target as well and will be an Abomination as well.

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

Maybe the Tevinter Alienage Slaver can teach you to be a blood mage EDIT: NOPE, but:
- the mad mage's book is a codex book worth 50 silver or w/e. and I remember from the wiki that you can't interact with him as much once you complete the Brecilian Forest Allies.
- The urn only unlocks Reaver. and besides, how would dragon blood give you "demonic" magic? not exactly a smooth train of thought.
- the desire demon (DD) in the tower is a completely different one from the DD in Redcliffe.

bandersnatch: you're annoyed because you couldn't unlock it as a rogue, right? since blood mage is arguably the strongest mage spec, it makes enough sense to me. have to be the class to unlock the strongest upgrade, basically. and as already said, no other mage option would talk to the demon to learn blood magic.

whoever said "the specs should be hidden until unlock": maybe. so you would see the 4 spec slots, but just not actually see anything until they're unlocked. could work.

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 30 mai 2010 - 09:08 .

[Lord Gremlin]

MindYerBeak wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

DragonOfWhiteThunder wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

There are 3 ways of becoming a Blood Mage. One way is in the Brecilian Forest...

Could you elaborate? I wasn't aware that any methods to unlock Blood Mage other than the Fade existed. A quick look on the Wiki reveals there's a manual you can purchase if you have Awakening, but I'm not finding anything about the Brecilian Forest.

Well, here's one method: in Circle tower you meet a possessed templar and a Desire demon. It's not far from Sloth demon's trap. You can make a deal with desire demon, so she leaves with her templar and teaches you to become a Blood Mage.

I've let her go free several times, but she's never taught me to become a Blood Mage. Unless you mean you meet her again in the Fade at Redcliffe?

No, it's just a bit tricky. If you simply let her go she won't give you anything. You must choose proper dialogue - I don't remember exactly, but you should choose lines that demands something in return for letting her have the templar, I've figured that out on my 3rd attempt.
P.S. I don't agree that Blood Mage is the most powerful class. It can be useful with certain build, but it's not that good. Unless you're going to build a close-combat arcane warrior, of course. Blood Mage let's you forget about Willpower and focus on Constitution instead, so...

Modifié par Lord Gremlin, 30 mai 2010 - 09:39 .

[Eudaemonium]

Gecon wrote...

Nooneyouknow13 wrote...

To be honest, I didn't even know it was possible for the fight to go on long enough for Irving to be turned.

It has nothing to do with length of fight; when the boss mob is at certain percentages of health, he will summon an ally. If you dont lose the litany, one of the mages turns into an Abomination. If you NEVER disrupt him with the littany, Irving will be target as well and will be an Abomination as well.

This isn't actually true, well, maybe partly true - it is a time thing. He might *also* do it at certain health percentages, but if you killl him quickly then you can easily kill him before Irving is turned even without using the litany. Irving is always turned last, so you'll probably lose a few mages along the way. Nonetheless, you can save Irving without using the litany. You just have to be quick and damaging about it. I know this from my first run-through, when I stupidly didn't use the litany (I killed Wynne, so she wasn't there to advise me, and I can be pretty dense at times).

[Lord Gremlin]

Boss may be not able to do something - during one of my playthroughs he's been paralyzed during almost whole battle.

That's what you get when you equip all characters with weapons with paralyze runes.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Gecon wrote...

It has nothing to do with length of fight; when the boss mob is at certain percentages of health, he will summon an ally.

Yes, but sommoning an ally has an activateion time.  If you do damange quiickly enough, he'll pass one of the summoning triggers while he's still summoning the previous ally, and thus that next ally will go unsummoned.

[Wicked 702]

Ok seriously. Those of you saying that you can unlock Blood Mage through a different way than in the fade at Redcliffe need to provide a source for your claims. My source is the Dragon Age wiki and a ton of Google searches. You are all wrong.

In the alienage the Blood Mage there offers to increase your Constitution for letting him go, not teach you Blood Magic.

The Mad Hermit's book is just a vendor trash codex entry.

The Urn of Sacred Ashes quest unlocks Reaver if you side with Kolgrim.



Cite your source. (I've search 10 different ways on Google and can find no reference to what you claim.)

[FBG_Loke]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

No, it's just a bit tricky. If you simply let her go she won't give you anything. You must choose proper dialogue - I don't remember exactly, but you should choose lines that demands something in return for letting her have the templar, I've figured that out on my 3rd attempt.

I tried every possible combination possible today and was not able to accomplish this. I'm dubious.

[FBG_Loke]

Wicked 702 wrote...

Ok seriously. Those of you saying that you can unlock Blood Mage through a different way than in the fade at Redcliffe need to provide a source for your claims. My source is the Dragon Age wiki and a ton of Google searches. You are all wrong.
In the alienage the Blood Mage there offers to increase your Constitution for letting him go, not teach you Blood Magic.

My source is the Arcane Warrior thread that is in the pinned thread in this forum. Here is the link. I make no claims as to it's accuracy. I just figured if it was pinned here, it was correct.

www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/950916-dragon-age-origins/faqs/58247