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[Rhys Cordelle]

After he said that I was sure he must be into my male warden, but no

[XwingVmanX]

maxernst wrote...

I always knew Alistair wasn't completely heterosexual.,.I mean, just think of that lamp post conversation. He must just be very picky when it comes to guys.

Wait seriously? lmao
How would you start a romance with him? I never saw any dialogue choice I thought I should avoid to not become romantic with him lol

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

XwingVmanX wrote...

maxernst wrote...

I always knew Alistair wasn't completely heterosexual.,.I mean, just think of that lamp post conversation. He must just be very picky when it comes to guys.

Wait seriously? lmao
How would you start a romance with him? I never saw any dialogue choice I thought I should avoid to not become romantic with him lol

You can only do it if female, or if you have a mod that makes Alistair swing both ways.

Otherwise, any tragic romances with Alistair are solely bugs.

[XwingVmanX]

oh okay I was going to say, i personally couldn't see him being bi lol

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

No, in a vanilla game, he's young, dumb, and quite straight. All his love dialogues are female specific. For some reason, the game sometimes randomly flags male characters with high approval with him as "romanced", hence the rather unexpected break-up.



Even the mids that allow males to romance or marry Alistair, the conversations/vos in the game are clearly speaking to a female.

[Yendi]

Creature 1 wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea, I never understood what's so great about the lampost metaphor in a romance, except that it's most probably a Freudian slip.

It's in the delivery. Alistair, with his goofy virginal charm make's that the bell to Pavlov's dog of many female gamers.

You wouldn't understand. It's an estrogen poisoning moment.

It didn't get me.  I was sitting there thinking, "Do you know what you're saying?!  Ever heard of a 'phallic symbol'?" 

I also fail to see the attraction in virginity but that line is interesting... I wonder why they chose that metaphor, how could anybody not associate it with that especially in a game where characters don’t hesitate to call the mage’s tower a giant phallus?

[Sarah1281]

Yendi wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea, I never understood what's so great about the lampost metaphor in a romance, except that it's most probably a Freudian slip.

It's in the delivery. Alistair, with his goofy virginal charm make's that the bell to Pavlov's dog of many female gamers.

You wouldn't understand. It's an estrogen poisoning moment.

It didn't get me.  I was sitting there thinking, "Do you know what you're saying?!  Ever heard of a 'phallic symbol'?" 

I also fail to see the attraction in virginity but that line is interesting... I wonder why they chose that metaphor, how could anybody not associate it with that especially in a game where characters don’t hesitate to call the mage’s tower a giant phallus?

Morrigan's the one who called it that. And can you imagine if he tried to have that conversation with her? I mean, even ignoring the fact that they hate each other...wow, she'd go places with that.

[Emerald Melios]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

He is one biologically confused bi, then. Maybe Zevran needs to take him aside and explain some of the benefits of man to man sex. It's obviously they never told him about that part in the Chantry.

I'm pretty sure he'll just say "Not listening. Lal-la-la-la-la!" like when Zevran tried to coach him on heterosexual time.

Modifié par Emerald Melios, 10 mai 2010 - 01:36 .

[sylvanaerie]

Leliana has ninja loved me at least twice now (HNF each time, engaged to Alistair). But Zevran never has. I am always very cautious when conversing with both of them as I am not interested in a romance with Leliana and Zevran gets too miserably sad faced if you have to tell him you want to be with Alistair instead. He's my BFF in all my games and I just get sick if I see that face as he takes it REALLY hard. That said I have learned after any convo I think may have triggered it on them I usually check and reload if it happened accidentally.

[Addai]

Yendi wrote...

I also fail to see the attraction in virginity but that line is interesting... I wonder why they chose that metaphor, how could anybody not associate it with that especially in a game where characters don’t hesitate to call the mage’s tower a giant phallus?

It may just be my interpretation, but I think Alistair knows exactly what he is saying and how it will be taken.  He says "oh, that's what we're talking about" in a completely nonchalant way.  If he had no inkling that his example would be understood as phallic, he'd get flustered.  He also moves very easily back and forth from talking about the real lamppost to the... anatomical one.

I do have to say that this conversation was weird on a male PC.  But maybe because by then I was used to running it as a female.

[Emperor Mars]

I had the exact same issue. From what I can tell, the game takes "I dont mind you being gay" to mean "I want elf penis"


I "ended" it with zeveran and then used cheats to get back the lost points.

[ArawnNox]

Emerald Melios wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

He is one biologically confused bi, then. Maybe Zevran needs to take him aside and explain some of the benefits of man to man sex. It's obviously they never told him about that part in the Chantry.

I'm pretty sure he'll just say "Not listening. Lal-la-la-la-la!" like when Zevran tried to coach him on heterosexual time.

If your in a male/male relationship with Zeveran, isn't there a party banter between Zev and Ali about it? And doesn't Zev try to sway him to his way of thinking?

[Addai]

ArawnNox wrote...

If your in a male/male relationship with Zeveran, isn't there a party banter between Zev and Ali about it? And doesn't Zev try to sway him to his way of thinking?

I don't know about this, but there is a Shale-Zevran banter where Zevran will talk about getting Alistair to "hop borders."  It goes way over Alistair's head.

[ArawnNox]

Addai67 wrote...

ArawnNox wrote...

If your in a male/male relationship with Zeveran, isn't there a party banter between Zev and Ali about it? And doesn't Zev try to sway him to his way of thinking?

I don't know about this, but there is a Shale-Zevran banter where Zevran will talk about getting Alistair to "hop borders."  It goes way over Alistair's head.

ahh ok

[Tirigon]

XwingVmanX wrote...

If you really don't want to have to put up with Leliana's romance just do what I did my first play through and don't talk to her or give her presents. She wont bother you then.

To be honest, I don´t understand why this Ninja-romancing is such a problem.
I mean, the romance is the only interesting thing about her - if it wasn´t for that, I wouldn´t pick her up in Lothering at all.....
In combat she is probably the second most useless char after dog - and even more useless than dog when you are on PC and use the "Full Combattant Dog" mod......

[Tirigon]

maxernst wrote...

I always knew Alistair wasn't completely heterosexual.,.I mean, just think of that lamp post conversation. He must just be very picky when it comes to guys.

I always thought of that as just one of Alistair´s bad jokes...

[Nu-Nu]

Lol how did you get Zevran to romance you? It's always been easy for me to stay in friends status and I play a female. You must have been clicking the flirty lines instead XD If there's friend in the line that keeps you as friend status so you should be clicking those when it comes up so you don't get into a romance.

[Tinxa]

Tirigon wrote...

maxernst wrote...

I always knew Alistair wasn't completely heterosexual.,.I mean, just think of that lamp post conversation. He must just be very picky when it comes to guys.

I always thought of that as just one of Alistair´s bad jokes...

Me too. Sort of like the flying dogs comment and NOT like the mage tower comment. Just random ending to the "Have you ever...". I certainly don't think there's any intentional symbolism behind it.

[Dokarqt]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Iv had Alistair break up with one of my nobles at the landsmeet beofore...I was like WTF when it happened since I didnt have any "make alistair gay" mods installed

That's why it's so funny. It's like, the last thing you'd expect. It's clearly a bug. And one that i find funny, because Alistair is lamenting he won't be able to make babies with you...like this is some dire revelation.

With leliana, however, I already know she's bi, and has gender-specific romance convos and options, so I end up with these insane jealousy conversations about romances I was certain was non-existant.

This.

I was actually laughing at the outright shock of having Alistair walk up to my rough MALE dwarf commoner after the landsmeet going all "You know we cant have any babies together now that im king right? They expect an heir!"

Just thinking about the moment makes me giggle, especially with Alistair being so sad and serious about it.

That bug is probably the funniest moment in the game when it happens.

[Dokarqt]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

For all you guys who got ninja romanced by Zevran because you didn't want to act homophobic, I applaud you.

This is, after all, not a game for children, so it should be assumed that the people playing it are reasonably mature. It's a mistake to think that there wouldn't be people who are completely comfortable having that kind of conversation with Zevran, without wanting it to develop into a sexual relationship.

This.

I have a pretty close relative who's gay and has been living with a man since I was born pretty much so I guess you could say im so used to being around homosexuals that I don't feel at all uncomfortable.

It's funny how as a child when I visited it never even struck me as the least bit strange or "wrong" that two grown men would be living together. Makes you wonder why so many adults have a problem with it doesn't it?

[Sarah1281]

Tirigon wrote...

XwingVmanX wrote...

If you really don't want to have to put up with Leliana's romance just do what I did my first play through and don't talk to her or give her presents. She wont bother you then.

To be honest, I don´t understand why this Ninja-romancing is such a problem.
I mean, the romance is the only interesting thing about her - if it wasn´t for that, I wouldn´t pick her up in Lothering at all.....
In combat she is probably the second most useless char after dog - and even more useless than dog when you are on PC and use the "Full Combattant Dog" mod......

Well if you want to romance her then chances are you won't be getting ninja romanced as you'll make an effort to activate it. If not, she comes off as creepy and stalkerish because she's envisioned this whole relationship you two supposedly have in her head even if you barely acknowledge her existence. If someone did that in real life and got really upset when you actually had a romance with someone, wouldn't that make you uncomfortable? 

[Addai]

dream_operator23 wrote...

It was when I had given Alistair his mother's necklace and the only nice thing at all to say was that I had remembered him telling me about it because he was special to me. Every other response to him asking if I remembered was mean. 

If you tell him "Sorry, did you say something?" he laughs at it.  Alistair really can take a joke, though it is hard to know when you're crossing a line.  But you get some of the more interesting exchanges with him when you play the wiseacre.  Doesn't really help if your PC is not the snarky type, though.

Modifié par Addai67, 10 mai 2010 - 03:13 .