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[madcow2001]

Sorry to post this here but it wouldn't let me post in the strategies section.  I'm a lifelong rpg enthusiast, ever since dragon warrior and final fantasy for NES.

I just started this game, and have just moved out of Lothering.  After the camp scene with the 2 dwarves, you get to pick which area you want to move to next.  My problem is this: I keep getting my butt kicked by any enemies I encounter on the road.

My characters are lvl 7 +/- with 2 warriors, a rogue and a mage. I've done all the quests i could find in Lothering, and fought all the enemies I could, so I don't see how I can level up any further.

The thing is, when I say I'm getting beat, I don't mean I put forth a valiant effort but lose after a long fight, I mean I get my **** handed to me in less than 30 seconds.  WTF?  It's not like I'm new to RPG's or anything, I consider myself a pretty good video game player.  But what's with the difficulty curve? I've never even lost a character in battle before this point, and now I can't stay alive for 30 seconds.

Anyone have any advice/answers here?

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

register your game and you can post anywhere. normal difficulty I guess? there's a bunch of quests in denerim, use a little caution tho. in general, pause a lot, see whats happening.

[thegreateski]

You got swarmed by wolves didn't you?

[madcow2001]

yes, the wolves tear me to shreds in seconds. however, even the darkspawn are giving me trouble, which i can usually tear them down pretty quickly. theres just so darn many of them that my characters don't stand a snowball's chance.

[thegreateski]

Yeah . . . the wolves give EVERYBODY trouble. you can either switch the difficulty down to easy for just that fight and kill them . . .



or



You can wander from area to area praying to The Maker that you don't get the wolves as a random event (until you're a higher lvl of course.)

[Khayness]

Cone of Cold and Mindblast helps getting rid of the beasties.

Crowd control ftw!

[maxernst]

I'd be inclined on a first playthrough to just switch to easy difficulty for the tough combats. Don't worry--the game difficulty really spikes after Lothering, but it becomes much easier when you have more crowd control spells. Don't be surprised if you find it too easy by ~ level 12.

[Grace1957]

Set it to pause automatically when attacked so you aren't taken by surprise.

[AlanC9]

Are you patched? There was an issue with encounter scaling in the original release.

[Elhanan]

I recommend checking and updating Tactical commands. For instance, selecting Enemy-Any often has Alistair standing about doing nothing. I find that placing Enemy - Nearest Visible is more helpful. And upgrade his Shield mode choice.



And for what it is worth, no encounter is worse than the Dwarven Merchant in Camp. He always wins....

[DWSmiley]

Also use the terrain to your advantage. For instance, with the wolves there is a spot a bit behind you and to the right, between some rocks, that you can retreat to so that only a few wolves can attack at a time.

[Tinxa]

Try to use Cone of cold on as many enemies as possible with a little luck you'll manage to shatter one or two of them while frozen and also use other stun abilities your chars have.

Try to lower the difficulty if only to get through the road encounter or try travelling several times, there's a chance the random encounter will be a non hostile traveling merchant.



If you're having trouble I also recommend going to Mage tower first after Lothering.

[ken casteel]

going to the tower first is a good choice, in the fade you get many stat bonuses witch help a lot.

[webbedfeet]

Crowd control is your friend. As is the pause button. Either micromanage your mage or set up tactics to do it, and you'll be wading through darkspawn butt in no time. The wolves have abilities that may give you trouble----they gave me trouble at level 10----but manage carefully and you'll survive.



The enemies in this game scale to your level, so you can't grind your way to ease of battles. Things are way easier at higher levels simply because you have a bigger bag of tricks....so, if you don't make good use of that increased bag of tricks, it'll be tough going! Have fun!

[madcow2001]

im just used to being able to fight random encounters to level up if im having trouble. here, ive only gotten a few fights to lvl up my characters, and theres nothing i can do to increase their lvl.

[Tonkarz]

If it's the same wolf battle I'm thinking of, you can try alerting only a few then retreating to the start of the area. That way you can beat them in manageable chunks.

[Arthur Cousland]

The most annoying part of the wolf battle is that you're surrounded by traps and the wolves attack you right away, so you can't really fight them one at a time.



Just build your tank up so they can take hits and make sure they're using taunt. Set up the a.i. of your allies so everyone fights the same enemy so you can take them out one at a time, rather than everyone attacking a different enemy, which only makes things harder. If you need to pause the game to issue commands manually, do so. Even if you have a mage around to cast healing spells, sometimes you still need to tell people to use health potions.



If you run into an enemy mage, make them the priority, so they don't pick you off from a distance with spells like fireball and curse of mortality.

[Valaz]

madcow2001 wrote...

Sorry to post this here but it wouldn't let me post in the strategies section.  I'm a lifelong rpg enthusiast, ever since dragon warrior and final fantasy for NES.

I just started this game, and have just moved out of Lothering.  After the camp scene with the 2 dwarves, you get to pick which area you want to move to next.  My problem is this: I keep getting my butt kicked by any enemies I encounter on the road.

My characters are lvl 7 +/- with 2 warriors, a rogue and a mage. I've done all the quests i could find in Lothering, and fought all the enemies I could, so I don't see how I can level up any further.

The thing is, when I say I'm getting beat, I don't mean I put forth a valiant effort but lose after a long fight, I mean I get my **** handed to me in less than 30 seconds.  WTF?  It's not like I'm new to RPG's or anything, I consider myself a pretty good video game player.  But what's with the difficulty curve? I've never even lost a character in battle before this point, and now I can't stay alive for 30 seconds.

Anyone have any advice/answers here?

There is one battle after lothering that gave me huge problems on hard.....

10 wolfs? overwhelm, grab moves.....had to reload a few times to actually get past that fight, but the rest are pretty easy.

Pausing for a breather while deciding tactics helps a lot.

[The Velveteen Rabbit]

Once I got ambushed by a swarm of darkspawn and two ogres. I still don't know how I survived that one.



Anyway, there are a lot of good articles on the DA wiki with tactical information and there's one about the intended order of the treaties. I know the mage tower was first but I don't know the rest off the top of my head. I'll post it if I come across it again.



I find I have a lot of trouble playing as a rogue, mage is the easiest for me and warrior is okay. But I just get my ass handed to me as a rogue, especially a low level one. Just sayin'.

[Valaz]

until high levels rogue need a bit more thinking and caution, with my 2h warr i could rush in easily but rogues are different.



order: DLC HL/WK>Magi>Redcliffe>DLC RTO>Dalish>Denerim>Orzamaar>Ashes



Thats how I do it.

[sami jo]

Lower the difficulty level until you have the hang of the controls. I died constantly my first playthrough. My health almost never dips below 75% now.

Do not send your whole party into the middle of the enemy. Being surrounded is never a good thing.

Pause frequently.

Give your mage Cone of Cold for when enemies close in. Fireball (slightly higher level) is a great way to soften them up before they get to you, just don't accidentally light your party on fire.

Use your tactics menu. There are lots of good suggestions in the builds forum if you register your game.

Use your rogue's skills- poisons, traps, bombs etc will make your life easier, and if you scout ahead with a stealthed rogue, you can set up the ambush instead of the other way around.

Give your mage at least the basic heal spell and set her tactics to use it without your intervention.

Set your companions to use health potions when their health is low in tactics without your intervention.

Give your best gear to your tank and let him soak up the attention while the rest of your party attacks at range if the enemy is still munching through you too quickly. Less damage to the enemy is preferable to no damage while you die. Characters draw aggro based on armor and damage per hit. Your ranged folks can do a whole lot of damage in small increments without taking a single hit.

Boost the dex or at least use equipment that increases the defense of your party. A str/dex warrior actually seems to work better than the classic str/con setup. The S/S skills are actually set up to force you to put some points into dex. If they can't hit you, they can't hurt you.

Particularly for the first playthrough, getting the stats bonuses and the companion from the Circle Tower is a good idea. Her default healing tactics will keep you alive through your tactical blunders.

If you are on PC, you can always download some of the "G-d item" mods that will keep you alive while you figure things out, or even just the decent mid-level armors.

Hang in there. By the time you reach level 14, you won't be having nearly as much trouble and by your second run it will be easy.

[GwaR9292]

go to brecillian forest, its the easiest one... dont go to orzammar, its the hardest one lol

[KragCulloden]

As said previously -make sure you are fully patched - I had the same trouble when first playing and it had nothing to do with crowd control, strategy, etc...the game was just busted and not scaling fights properly. Once I was patched things became much better.