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Okay, for the sake of my own morbid curiosity, I'm wondering what the romances/flirts/one-nighters are possible outside the companions are. So, I'd like to compile a list of who they are, how to do them, and what genders they're available for.

Romances- :wub:
Tamlen: As a female Dalish, you can imply a romance with Tamlen.  Once you've reached the caves the humans tell you about, his dialog options open up.  You can tell him to "Talk, if it makes you feel better." When he says that the caves make him nervous - he will mention that you were supposed to be with Master Varathorn, and how did you end up with him today anyways? One of the replies is "I wanted to be with you, of course", to which he will say "I...had hoped that was the case.  I'm glad." Also, if you ask him why it's so important for him to find something in the cave, he will mention being in trouble with the Keeper, upon which you can tell him "Thanks for covering for me, by the way" to which he will reply "Of course!  You know I'd do anything for you." 
Later, in the Dalish camp, many of the people, including your foster mother, mention how close the two of you were, and Ashalle mentions that she "had hoped you two would someday....well, now is not the time to speak of it".
When you see Tamlen again at the shriek attack, if you try to help him and suggest you find a cure, he will tell you that he "always loved you" as he is dying.  It's heart-breaking. I can't remember if he says anything romance specific in the Gauntlet, but he is the personal character the Dalish PC sees there as well.

Gorim: Female Dwarven Nobles. Right at the begining of the Origin, Gorim will make a flirtatious remark to your character. Your response sets the tone for the romance. You have four basic responses to Gorim:
- You, my friend, are ridicilous. (no change in flag)
- Close the door and show me what you're thinking/we've got time, etc.  (Set: Gorim_Romantic)
-  We've been down this road before, Gorim. Let it go. (Set: Gorim_Rejected)
- You forget your place. (Set: Gorim_Humbled)

Cullen: Female Mages. Cullen is clearly smitten and you can either brush him off, remain ignorant, or flirt back, during the Origin.

Jowan: Female Mage you can ask Jowan why you two never got together and then he's shocked and asks if you liked him as more than a friend and you can confirm that you did (a little) or that you were just pulling his leg. Lily is very interested in the answer as well. This comes up when you are first introduced to Lily by Jowan. (Might count more as a flirt than a romance, but I feel that it's a missed opportunity and fits here.)

Nesiara: Male City Elf. Your intended bride during the Origin Story. Opportunity to be flirty or romantic, or just downright cold.

Nelaros: Female City Elf. Your intended groom during the Origin Story. Opportunity to be flirty, or romantic, or just downright cold.

Flirts- ;)
Bann Teagan: I understand that you can flirt with him as a female, but I don't know much about it.

Bella: Male Characters. The barmaid at Redcliffe can give you a kiss as a reward for giving her 5 soveriegns. Morrigan with dissapprove. She can also give you a kiss for rescuing Redcliffe. The other patrons' expressions are priceless.

Kaitlyn: Male Characters can receive a kiss from her as a reward for giving her 5 soveriegns. Morrigan will dissapprove. You can also get her to kiss you as a reward for finding her brother. She's not very keen on this, however.

Dwyn: Female Characters. The Dwarf in Redcliffe can be offered an intimite encounter as payment for helping defend the village. He'll always refuse, though Dwarven females get an extra line of dialogue.

Felsi: Either Gender. In the Spoiled Princess, players can ask if she is available when talking to her on Oghren's behalf. She will misunderstand the intent of the question and let the PC know she's not interested. Rejection lines vary based on gender and race.

Unna: Male Dwarf Commoner. In Commons, tucked away next to Tapsters is this clothes washer. The Player can ask if she's interested in a tumble only to be physically shoved away.

Duncan: Female Human Noble. When you speak to Duncan after your father sends you after Fergus, Duncan will comment on you being left in charge of the castle. Ask Duncan if you can speak to him later, then say you'd prefer sooner, then you can invite him to your room. He'll get all flustered and decline.

One-Nighters- <3
Iona: Available to both genders of Human Noble Origin. After meeting her, you can seek her out in the study. Compliment her on her beauty and wanting to "get to know her better" which will lead to inviting her to your room that night.

Male/Female/Transgender-Dwarf Prostitutes at the Pearl: Either Gender. This is fairly obvious, go to The Pearl in Denerim, speak to the proprieter and select to "see the men/women". Selecting "Surprise me" jumps right into the tranny-dwarf.

Isabella: Either Gender. At The Pearl, instead of her card game, you can offer to make things more personal, and things will. Certain party members (Lelianna, Alistair), if hardened can be lured into a threesome/foursome with her (Zeveran doesn't have a hardening option, obviously). You must first talk to her crew member about her being a ship captain and when you speak to her, you must pass a persuasion check to "board her ship".

Dwarven Noble Hunters: Male Dwarf Noble Origin. These girls are at the end of the Daimond Quarter. You can convince both of them to be waiting in your room after your presentation ceremony (use of the Redesigned Mod makes them easier on the eyes).

Cammen: Female characters. You can sleep with Cammen at the Daelish Camp (and I highley reccommend the
Redesigned Mod for this). You ask him if he's still a virgin and he gets all awkward and asks if that's a problem since no one ever tells him these things. You can convince him to let you show him how to please a woman and you go off to the forest.

Gheyna: Male Characters. At the Daelish Camp, after you convince her that Cammen hates her, you tell her she deserves better and offer to go someplace private with her. (Note: Sleeping with either Cammen or Gheyna and either party finding out, Gheyna will get upset and their romance will be over. If you slept with Cammen you can at least convince Gheyna to take him back.)

Dairren: Available for both Genders of Human Noble Origin. The son of the visiting Arlessa in the Human Noble origins. After meeting him he is found in the study with Iona. I assume getting into bed with him involves flirting similar to Iona.

Desire Demon: Either Gender Mage. When you enter the Fade to rescue Connor at Redcliffe, you can select to receive pleasure from the Demon when she offers to strike a deal.

Thats all I know of off the top of my head. As people add their info I'll update and correct the info above.
Thanks to everyone who contributes. :D

Edits:
Added Darrien, Gheyna, Desire Demon, and updated Gorim's romance.
Added sections on Unna, Dwyn, and Felsi
Updated Iona and Darrien
Added a section on Jowan and updated Gheyna and Cammen. Also added colors to seperate the sections.
Clarified Gheyna and Cammen. Updated Kaitlyn and Bella.
Added Nesiara and Nelaros.
Updated Tamlen's Entry

Modifié par ArawnNox, 13 mai 2010 - 03:08 .


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Kryyptehk

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Gheyna- Cammen's fiance. Available for men only.

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I would add Gheyna(mentioned above), Dairren(HN origin) and Connor's desire demon.

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ArawnNox wrote...

Gorim: I understand female Dwarf Nobles can imply a deeper relationship in the Origin, but I have nothing solid on that.

Yes, you only have one chance to activate the romance with Gorim -- this is right after you create your character and the opening scenes start. He will proceed to ask your PC if she wants to have a shield for the ceremony. Doesn't matter what response you pick as he will immediately follow up with teasing flirtation. How you respond to that sets the relationship from then on.

You have four basic responses to Gorim:
- You, my friend, are ridicilous. (no change in flag)
- Close the door and show me what you're thinking/we've got time, etc.  (Set: Gorim_Romantic)
-  We've been down this road before, Gorim. Let it go. (Set: Gorim_Rejected)
- You forget your place. (Set: Gorim_Humbled)

Romantic Gorim has several sweet lines in addition to a parting kiss after major events unfold in the DN origin.

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For "flirts," the female PC can proposition Dwyn in Redcliffe in an attempt to get him to defend the village. He will always reject the offer no matter what, but dwarf females get an extra line out of him being especially tempted to consider the offer before he ultimately declines.

The PC can attempt to see if Felsi (in the Spoiled Princess) is available when talking to her on Oghren's behalf. She will misunderstand the intent of the question and let the PC know she's not interested. Rejection lines vary based on gender and race.

The male dwarf commoner can ask Unna (in Commons) if she's interested in a tumble only to be physically shoved away.

Modifié par Gilsa, 10 mai 2010 - 08:41 .


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Thanks for the help so far. :)

Copy and paste mucks with the formatting SO HARD! >.<

@Gilsa- Thanks for the toolset breakdown for Gorim. That's the kind of info I like to see. :D

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With Dairren, he is available for men or women. The elven maid you can sleep with is Iona, the one you couldn't remember.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

With Dairren, he is available for men or women. The elven maid you can sleep with is Iona, the one you couldn't remember.

Thanks!

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Elf servant in Human noble orgin is called Iona. Dairren is also available for one nighter in Human noble orgin.

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Xandurpein wrote...

Elf servant in Human noble orgin is called Iona. Dairren is also available for one nighter in Human noble orgin.


I've been brought up to speed on this, but thanks anyway. :)

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ArawnNox wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

Elf servant in Human noble orgin is called Iona. Dairren is also available for one nighter in Human noble orgin.


I've been brought up to speed on this, but thanks anyway. :)


My bad, for not reading the whole thread properly. :pinched:

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You can get a kiss from Bella and Kaitlyn. Also there's Anora.

Modifié par Slidell505, 10 mai 2010 - 09:35 .


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Slidell505 wrote...

You can get a kiss from Bella and Kaitlyn. Also there's Anora.


Anora is an arranged marriage, not romance, not even a flirt really (arguably), at least not within the game

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Xandurpein wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

You can get a kiss from Bella and Kaitlyn. Also there's Anora.


Anora is an arranged marriage, not romance, not even a flirt really (arguably), at least not within the game


Yeah, even though you get married it feels like much less of a romance than any of the others. Even less than the implied romances

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I'm not sure if this counts but as a female Mage you can ask Jowan why you two never got together and then he's shocked and asks if you liked him as more than a friend and you can confirm that you did (a little) or that you were just pulling his leg. Lily is very interested in the answer as well.



And for Gheyna after you convince her that Cammen hates her, you tell her she deserves better and offer to go someplace private with her. For Cammen you ask him if he's still a virgin and he gets all awkward and asks if that's a problem since no one ever tells him these things. You can convince him to let you show him how to please a woman and you go off to the forest. He freaks out just as much as Gheyna does and calls you a bad person but, unlike with Gheyna, you can still hook the pair up by talking Gheyna into accepting him and hopefully he has the sense to keep his mouth shut.

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Sarah, what does Jowan say to that? I usually play mages who are in love with him, but I've never seen this option.

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You can ask him during the first time you're introduced and he says that you're like a sister to him and now there's Lily so why are you even bringing that up? I think he says something about how if he'd known...but now Lily's in the picture and he's just going to pretend this never came up.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

You can ask him during the first time you're introduced and he says that you're like a sister to him and now there's Lily so why are you even bringing that up? I think he says something about how if he'd known...but now Lily's in the picture and he's just going to pretend this never came up.


Jeez, that's kind of douchey. Luckily, my I roleplay characters who betray him anyway, so that works out well.


EDIT: I guess we can cross out Jowan and Mage!PC getting it on casually, huh? lol I always assumed that they probably did since the mages are promiscuous.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

You can ask him during the first time you're introduced and he says that you're like a sister to him and now there's Lily so why are you even bringing that up? I think he says something about how if he'd known...but now Lily's in the picture and he's just going to pretend this never came up.


Jeez, that's kind of douchey. Luckily, my I roleplay characters who betray him anyway, so that works out well.


EDIT: I guess we can cross out Jowan and Mage!PC getting it on casually, huh? lol I always assumed that they probably did since the mages are promiscuous.

I'm not sure if he actually means that he sees you like a sister or if he's just claiming that since you asked in front of his very interested girlfriend he intends to run away with and marry.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

You can ask him during the first time you're introduced and he says that you're like a sister to him and now there's Lily so why are you even bringing that up? I think he says something about how if he'd known...but now Lily's in the picture and he's just going to pretend this never came up.


Jeez, that's kind of douchey. Luckily, my I roleplay characters who betray him anyway, so that works out well.


EDIT: I guess we can cross out Jowan and Mage!PC getting it on casually, huh? lol I always assumed that they probably did since the mages are promiscuous.

I'm not sure if he actually means that he sees you like a sister or if he's just claiming that since you asked in front of his very interested girlfriend he intends to run away with and marry.


That makes sense. I guess he wouldn't want the woman he is in love with to know he was with the woman that is helping them escape. Kinda makes me feel bad about betraying them:whistle:

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Here's a video about it.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

I'm not sure if this counts but as a female Mage you can ask Jowan why you two never got together and then he's shocked and asks if you liked him as more than a friend and you can confirm that you did (a little) or that you were just pulling his leg. Lily is very interested in the answer as well.

And for Gheyna after you convince her that Cammen hates her, you tell her she deserves better and offer to go someplace private with her. For Cammen you ask him if he's still a virgin and he gets all awkward and asks if that's a problem since no one ever tells him these things. You can convince him to let you show him how to please a woman and you go off to the forest. He freaks out just as much as Gheyna does and calls you a bad person but, unlike with Gheyna, you can still hook the pair up by talking Gheyna into accepting him and hopefully he has the sense to keep his mouth shut.


I want to make sure I'm getting this part right. If you sleep with Cammen, Gheyna gets angry, but you can still hook the pair up. While, if you sleep with Gheyna, Cammen gets angry and you can't hook them up. Is that right?

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Wow, it kinda sounds like Jowan had feelings for the mage PC too. Thanks for the vid, definitely gave me something to think about.

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ArawnNox wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I'm not sure if this counts but as a female Mage you can ask Jowan why you two never got together and then he's shocked and asks if you liked him as more than a friend and you can confirm that you did (a little) or that you were just pulling his leg. Lily is very interested in the answer as well.

And for Gheyna after you convince her that Cammen hates her, you tell her she deserves better and offer to go someplace private with her. For Cammen you ask him if he's still a virgin and he gets all awkward and asks if that's a problem since no one ever tells him these things. You can convince him to let you show him how to please a woman and you go off to the forest. He freaks out just as much as Gheyna does and calls you a bad person but, unlike with Gheyna, you can still hook the pair up by talking Gheyna into accepting him and hopefully he has the sense to keep his mouth shut.


I want to make sure I'm getting this part right. If you sleep with Cammen, Gheyna gets angry, but you can still hook the pair up. While, if you sleep with Gheyna, Cammen gets angry and you can't hook them up. Is that right?


Yes, that's right.

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thank you :)