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Heather Cline wrote...

These last few comments are hilarious. But really ME1 had better love making scenes all around. Yes the scenes were the same for Liara, Kaiden or Ash, but they were better. Able to comment afterwards, the fact that it made more sense all around. ME2 scenes were more PG13 and the games violence really didn't warrant a M rating. Yes you could push a guy off a ledge, yes Nassan Dantius got killed by Thane. But frankly there was nothing in that game to warrant a M rating, even some of the language wasn't all that robust. In fact I believe that Grand Theft Auto was more a M rated game than ME2. Bioware dropped the ball in so many places for ME2. I see no point in replaying the game again myself. I finally beat the insanity level so I've got all the achievements. Unless they come out with an expansion pack like they did for DA:O I won't be playing the game again any time soon.


Um.....

:huh:

Grand Theft Auto has a TON more objectional content than most games.  GTA beats Dragon Age in that respect.  The only thing Dragon Age has over it is Decapitations which were in the previous GTA games....

I mean GTA has full frontal nudity in it. 


Its called the "Penis  Shot!" Why did I have to see that Rockstar why!. Posted Image I'm sorry they couldn't show nipples is just had to BE "PENIS" anyway, yeah!Posted Image


Ah the famous penis shot. Heavy Rain also had a penis shot and full frontal.

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The only games that I think are not justified in their M rating is the Halo games. In fact Halo Wars is rated T. Another is MGS: Portable Ops which seems to be rated M just because the other Metal Gear games are, that was rectified in the Expansion though when it was rated T.



There are some violent as hell T games though, like Smash TV and Jet Force Gemini...

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I'll go for quality (ME2) over quantity (copy paste sex scenes in ME1), thanks.


This, each sex scene  in ME2 fitted each character well, expect Jacob because his romance was utter crap.


Wrong, you couldn't interact after the sex scene. You couldn't talk about what happend. All you got with Tali was totally worth it then move on. The topic of this argument FAil.  This is all you get, and this is why I was pizzed. It wasn't fun. Booo. Fail again and heres my proof. All my shepard gets to say is

Shepard: Do you have time to talk.... Blah, blah, blah boooo! fail!Posted Image


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Personally, I blame news outlets like Fox News.


That controversy got a major news network to announce to their audience, most of whom wouldn't otherwise know Mass Effect existed, that there's this new game coming out where you can get the hot blue alien naked. From an advertising standpoint that is pure win.

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Zombor wrote...

XX55XX wrote...
Personally, I blame news outlets like Fox News.


That controversy got a major news network to announce to their audience, most of whom wouldn't otherwise know Mass Effect existed, that there's this new game coming out where you can get the hot blue alien naked. From an advertising standpoint that is pure win.





Short run negative publicity is good.  Long run it can be baaaaaaaaaaad.

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Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).

Heather Cline wrote...

These last few comments are hilarious. But really ME1 had better love making scenes all around. Yes the scenes were the same for Liara, Kaiden or Ash, but they were better. Able to comment afterwards, the fact that it made more sense all around. ME2 scenes were more PG13 and the games violence really didn't warrant a M rating. Yes you could push a guy off a ledge, yes Nassan Dantius got killed by Thane. But frankly there was nothing in that game to warrant a M rating, even some of the language wasn't all that robust. In fact I believe that Grand Theft Auto was more a M rated game than ME2.


Given that San Andreas was retroactively rerated an AO game based on cut content, I'm not sure BioWare feels worried about not being as racy as GTA.

Besides, saying that one game is "more" M-rated than another is ridiculous - just like saying a movie is "more" R-rated than another. It's not a scale, it's a set of categories.

Heather Cline wrote...

Bioware dropped the ball in so many places for ME2. I see no point in replaying the game again myself. I finally beat the insanity level so I've got all the achievements. Unless they come out with an expansion pack like they did for DA:O I won't be playing the game again any time soon.


So basically, what you're saying is that you dislike ME2. Thanks for sharing. I'm not sure how it's relevant to the admittedly shallow discussion.

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As for ME3, I honestly think Bioware is going to go with the same formula they did with ME2 and make it more kiddy friendly. This game was supposed to be for mature audiences but in fact my 8 year old nephew told me that he played games that had the T rating and was a lot more mature than ME2. Bioware you really did drop the ball in many areas. I do think you need to go back to ME1 and take some pointers from it.


Yes, because we all know that BioWare was all about gore and sex up the ying-yang before EA came along. Come on, the romances in practically every BioWare game previous to ME1 were much tamer than ME2's are sexually, with the possible exception of Baldur's Gate II. KotOR, anyone? Even Jade Empire, which has a definite sex scene, is no less censored than ME2 (probably more so). And it's an M-rated game.

And frankly, having been an eight-year old gamer before, I can tell you that demographic has no concept what qualifies as "mature" content beyond the "sex and gore" factor. It's not horrible - they're not mature themselves yet so it shouldn't be expected - but honestly, using that kind of anecdotal evidence to shore up your case is laughable.

Besides, did you see the same advertisements that I did? They're certainly not marketing the game as "kid-friendly." If anything, they're blowing the sex and violence way out of proportion.

I'm going to reiterate what's been said many times before: the ME2 scenes may be a little lacking in the "flesh" department, but that doesn't bother me. KotOR, JE, and countless other RPGs didn't need some skin to sell the romance. Until recently (it seems Alistair may have deposed him), Carth probably could have been said to be the most popular (female) romanceable character in any RPG and he didn't even get a kiss! Honestly, the sex factor isn't necessary, even if it's appreciated when it is there.

I'd be fine with more skin, but I don't need it, and I feel wholeheartedly that the ME2 scenes were better.

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Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


JOKER'S WAITING FOR YOU ON THE BRIDGE

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Nivenus wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).

Heather Cline wrote...

These last few comments are hilarious. But really ME1 had better love making scenes all around. Yes the scenes were the same for Liara, Kaiden or Ash, but they were better. Able to comment afterwards, the fact that it made more sense all around. ME2 scenes were more PG13 and the games violence really didn't warrant a M rating. Yes you could push a guy off a ledge, yes Nassan Dantius got killed by Thane. But frankly there was nothing in that game to warrant a M rating, even some of the language wasn't all that robust. In fact I believe that Grand Theft Auto was more a M rated game than ME2.


Given that San Andreas was retroactively rerated an AO game based on cut content, I'm not sure BioWare feels worried about not being as racy as GTA.

Besides, saying that one game is "more" M-rated than another is ridiculous - just like saying a movie is "more" R-rated than another. It's not a scale, it's a set of categories.

Heather Cline wrote...

Bioware dropped the ball in so many places for ME2. I see no point in replaying the game again myself. I finally beat the insanity level so I've got all the achievements. Unless they come out with an expansion pack like they did for DA:O I won't be playing the game again any time soon.


So basically, what you're saying is that you dislike ME2. Thanks for sharing. I'm not sure how it's relevant to the admittedly shallow discussion.

Heather Cline wrote...

As for ME3, I honestly think Bioware is going to go with the same formula they did with ME2 and make it more kiddy friendly. This game was supposed to be for mature audiences but in fact my 8 year old nephew told me that he played games that had the T rating and was a lot more mature than ME2. Bioware you really did drop the ball in many areas. I do think you need to go back to ME1 and take some pointers from it.


Yes, because we all know that BioWare was all about gore and sex up the ying-yang before EA came along. Come on, the romances in practically every BioWare game previous to ME1 were much tamer than ME2's are sexually, with the possible exception of Baldur's Gate II. KotOR, anyone? Even Jade Empire, which has a definite sex scene, is no less censored than ME2 (probably more so). And it's an M-rated game.

And frankly, having been an eight-year old gamer before, I can tell you that demographic has no concept what qualifies as "mature" content beyond the "sex and gore" factor. It's not horrible - they're not mature themselves yet so it shouldn't be expected - but honestly, using that kind of anecdotal evidence to shore up your case is laughable.

Besides, did you see the same advertisements that I did? They're certainly not marketing the game as "kid-friendly." If anything, they're blowing the sex and violence way out of proportion.

I'm going to reiterate what's been said many times before: the ME2 scenes may be a little lacking in the "flesh" department, but that doesn't bother me. KotOR, JE, and countless other RPGs didn't need some skin to sell the romance. Until recently (it seems Alistair may have deposed him), Carth probably could have been said to be the most popular (female) romanceable character in any RPG and he didn't even get a kiss! Honestly, the sex factor isn't necessary, even if it's appreciated when it is there.

I'd be fine with more skin, but I don't need it, and I feel wholeheartedly that the ME2 scenes were better.


Well said. I approve with this 100%

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Collider wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).

JOKER'S WAITING FOR YOU ON THE BRIDGE


"By the goddess"

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).

JOKER'S WAITING FOR YOU ON THE BRIDGE


"By the goddess"

rather hear "by the goddess" as a one liner in a cutscene than some annoying justicar krios crap, "be with the goddess" over and over again during game play.

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Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."

:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.

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Zombor wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."

:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.


Don't we all wish we could. :bandit:

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Zombor wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."



:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.


the blue alien sex scene was ****ing awesome. after the Fifth Element (take off scene w/ flight attendants+ end scene), yet before 2009 Star Trek's & Avatar's alien sex scene.

ME2 totally sucked with the whole Rated-Lame sex scenes. nothing but lame spooning, and people stripping into their underwear, pointless.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 11 mai 2010 - 06:35 .


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Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.



Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.



Sadness ;_;

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Zombor wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."



:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.


the blue alien sex scene was ****ing awesome. after the Fifth Element (take off scene w/ flight attendants+ end scene), yet before 2009 Star Trek's & Avatar's alien sex scene.

ME2 totally sucked with the whole Rated-Lame sex scenes. nothing but lame spooning, and people stripping into their underwear, pointless.


Sten: NO <_<

"THeRE Is N0 BEWbs iN My GaMEZ, IT SUKS!!!!"

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.

Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.

Sadness ;_;

that's why we let ashley die in the story right? insubordination.

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.

Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.

Sadness ;_;

that's why we let ashley die in the story right? insubordination.


Ash was more intresting then Liara :whistle:

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kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Zombor wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."



:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.


the blue alien sex scene was ****ing awesome. after the Fifth Element (take off scene w/ flight attendants+ end scene), yet before 2009 Star Trek's & Avatar's alien sex scene.

ME2 totally sucked with the whole Rated-Lame sex scenes. nothing but lame spooning, and people stripping into their underwear, pointless.


Sten: NO <_<

"THeRE Is N0 BEWbs iN My GaMEZ, IT SUKS!!!!"

who the hell is sten? and why care if they exclaim "no"?

and Miranda's tranny looking ass had plenty boobage, especially during the rated lame spooning scene (spoon scene is more appropriate to call it that rather than as a sex scene)

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kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.

Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.

Sadness ;_;

that's why we let ashley die in the story right? insubordination.


Ash was more intresting then Liara :whistle:

 So? There are other human crew members aboard the Normandy who're also female, just like ashley and all why not bone one of them instead. Why not have a little fun with a blue person?

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 11 mai 2010 - 06:43 .


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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Zombor wrote...

Do you guys actually remember how corny the post-sex scene dialogue was in ME1? No? Because I do, having seen it recently (just today actually).


"That was incredible Shepard!"

"YOU were incredible."



:sick:


I'm all for getting squadmates naked, but overall ME2 sexytime was much better. A lot of the ME2 sex scenes advanced the characters and established an emotional connection. ME1 sexytime just made me wish I could duct tape Shepard's mouth shut.


the blue alien sex scene was ****ing awesome. after the Fifth Element (take off scene w/ flight attendants+ end scene), yet before 2009 Star Trek's & Avatar's alien sex scene.

ME2 totally sucked with the whole Rated-Lame sex scenes. nothing but lame spooning, and people stripping into their underwear, pointless.


Sten: NO <_<

"THeRE Is N0 BEWbs iN My GaMEZ, IT SUKS!!!!"

who the hell is sten? and why care if they exclaim "no"?

and Miranda's tranny looking ass had plenty boobage, especially during the rated lame spooning scene (spoon scene is more appropriate to call it that rather than as a sex scene)



Ah I get it, you are just mad that Liara got shafted in mE2. Well cry me a river, life is filled with disapointment.

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.

Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.

Sadness ;_;

that's why we let ashley die in the story right? insubordination.


Ash was more intresting then Liara :whistle:

 So? There are other human crew members aboard the Normandy who're also female, just like ashley and all why not bone one of them instead. Why not have a little fun with a blue person?


Wrong, Ashley was a intresting an complex character. The point that you go for looks says alot about you.

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I prefer the ME1 scenes as well. some skin, but not pornographic...perfect
Yes, they were copy-paste. But I think one good scene is better than several bad ones.

ME1 > ME2 > DAO (just terrible)

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Barquiel wrote...

I prefer the ME1 scenes as well. some skin, but not pornographic...perfect
Yes, they were copy-paste. But I think one good scene is better than several bad ones.

ME1 > ME2 > DAO (just terrible)


Was it the lack of skin or something else that bothered you? I certainly like the ME1 scenes for what they were, but I found the dialogue improved for the ME2 scenes (and though I've only played ME2 only once so far I've seen all the scenes on video playthroughs.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I remember on my Paragon Shepard Ashley seemd to poke fun at him afterwards.

Showing once again that no one appreciated his actions throughout the story.

Sadness ;_;

that's why we let ashley die in the story right? insubordination.


Ash was more intresting then Liara :whistle:

 So? There are other human crew members aboard the Normandy who're also female, just like ashley and all why not bone one of them instead. Why not have a little fun with a blue person?


Wrong, Ashley was a intresting an complex character. The point that you go for looks says alot about you.

Put it this way. If Sheppard wanted to know more about any other ONE person on the ship other than Ashley, would he came across someone more interesting & complexed than Ashley who was also human?
And I said nothing about looks.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 11 mai 2010 - 07:29 .