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[llinsane1ll]

I know this is a Mass Effect forum and doesn't have online multiplayer but since it's related to EA, I hope people do take this post serious and the moderators allow it to be posted on since this whole deal does reflect on BioWare since they are part of EA.

Please, if you do care about this, please, only mature posting and no flaming or w/e

Thanks.

Here's a poll to this forum social.bioware.com/914433/polls/5690/

Here's a poll link to BFBC2 forum forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/532431.page

Although I am all for the new direction that EA
has taken to insure that customers buy their products new to gain
profit, I believe that the way I have listed the following below, would
be a more attractive way for EA, and any other company looking for a
sense of direction in this new route, to ensure customers would still be
convinced to buying games new.



BUYING USED GAMES -

1. Can play online

2. Can buy paid DLC

3. Retail companies should sell used games $5 cheaper than buying
new (* #3 is related to #1 in the section below with more info*)



BUYING NEW GAMES

-BUYING ALL NEW GAMES COME INCLUDED WITH CODE

1. $5 more than buying used to convince customers in buying
products new to receive the following below

2. Code will be used as a ‘RAFFLE TICKET’ to be used in a ‘DRAWING’
for chance to win CASH/PRIZE/SPECIAL OFFER

3. Can play online

4. Can buy paid DLC

5. Can receive exclusive free DLC/OFFERS/FEATURES (for instance...
Mass Effect 2 w/ Cerberus Network)

6. Can receive bonus content/item inside product case as a free,
non DLC

7. Can register to company website to have a chance to win
CASH/PRIZES in upcoming TOURNAMENTS/EVENTS



Sorry if this is going on all over EA forums and other gaming sites
but if you think this is a better idea, spread the word!

Modifié par llinsane1ll, 11 mai 2010 - 01:43 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Yeah I saw that, sounded like a bunch of BS to me. BTW though this should be in the off topic forum as like you said this isn't necessarily ME related.

[llinsane1ll]

Put up some polls, 1 for this forum and one linking to the BFBC2... just in case you care and do decide to support this idea

[TJSolo]

So messed up and greedy.

Not sure why the game industry want to be the "special" ones and leech from used game sales. No other media has that same luxury.

I can buy and sell used books, CDs, and movies for weeks without having those industries trying to figure out how to get EXTRA money off of a product that was already sold.

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Wow, I've literally bought every EA Game I own brand new up until now, but now I'm going to purposely start buying all of their offline games used as a matter of principal.



I understand that they don't make a profit off of used game sales, but I'm tired of them trying to punish people who buy games used.

Sometimes people don't have the money to shell out a full $60 for a new game, and more often than not, your games turn out not to be worth the $60 you're charging for them.



EA is a multimillion dollar company as it is, so they're not exactly hurting from used game sales, especially when they can afford to buy out other successful game development companies like Bioware.

So they're just being greedy.



Sorry, EA... Looks like I'll be buying Dead Space 2 used now rather than preorder it like I was going to up until I read this.

[Atmosfear3]

I wouldn't be surprised if within the next few years game companies start charging a fee for any type of online interaction similar to paying for xbox live. Pretty soon we'll probably have to pay individual subscription fees for every game we want to play online.

[Ryzaki]

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Sure, you cannot resell them and that is fine for me because I only buy games I know I want to keep.

 

How can you know you will like a game before you buy it? 

That's what I'm wondering. I bought FF10 thinking it would be good. Its not.
Granted I didn't return it because I *still* haven't beaten it.

I will sell it...
eventually...
I think...

[Onyx Jaguar]

Well I don't sell any game because.. I collect them



But thats beside the point, the used game market isn't going anywhere and you aren't going to cut into it with incentives like these when some of them USE to be in the game standard on release. ****ing ridiculous this move by EA is.



First off these bastards do not use Microsoft Servers on the 360 even though you pay for live, so there you get a limited time on games because they pull servers, now this. Watch they'll tie their servers in on a time window so if you do not buy a game right away you won't ever be able to play it online.

[Ryzaki]

scyphozoa wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Sure, you cannot resell them and that is fine for me because I only buy games I know I want to keep.

 

How can you know you will like a game before you buy it? 

by doing a couple hours of research. I usually know in the months leading up to a game's launch if I want to buy, rent or ignore it. This is just my consumer tendancy, when I get excited for a game, I go out of my way to collect more info and see more content. In doing so I usually collect enough info to make an informed decision on if the game is worth my money or not.  

I'm guessing you have no problem with spoilers?

I personally don't mind but I know some people who just plain do not want spoilers that actually ruins their enjoyment of the game.

[TJSolo]

scyphozoa wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Sure, you cannot resell them and that is fine for me because I only buy games I know I want to keep.

 

How can you know you will like a game before you buy it? 

by doing a couple hours of research. I usually know in the months leading up to a game's launch if I want to buy, rent or ignore it. This is just my consumer tendancy, when I get excited for a game, I go out of my way to collect more info and see more content. In doing so I usually collect enough info to make an informed decision on if the game is worth my money or not.  

Good, that is how you make an informed buy. It however evades the question; How can you know you will like a game before you buy it.?

[llinsane1ll]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
 Watch they'll tie their servers in on a time window so if you do not buy a game right away you won't ever be able to play it online.

Funny I was thinking exact same thing lol, but no company is stupid enough to do that... dozens of millions of $ wasted on developing a game, then putting it out for sale then only 1 month before you're lucked out on playing online.

[Empiro]

I'm not surprised at all. At the end of the day, it's really just using technology to make an end run around the fact that 100 years ago, the courts decided that if you buy something like a book (which was extended to movies and video games), you have a legal right to lend it, trade it, or sell it.

[Onyx Jaguar]

llinsane1ll wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
 Watch they'll tie their servers in on a time window so if you do not buy a game right away you won't ever be able to play it online.

Funny I was thinking exact same thing lol, but no company is stupid enough to do that... dozens of millions of $ wasted on developing a game, then putting it out for sale then only 1 month before you're lucked out on playing online.

Well if you look at how long LOTR Conquest lasted before getting pulled...

[Merci357]

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Sure, you cannot resell them and that is fine for me because I only buy games I know I want to keep.

 

How can you know you will like a game before you buy it? 

I buy like 5-8 games a year - this year there are just Fallout: New Vegas, Alpha Protocol and Civilisation V on my radar. I know those will be worth my money, and I'd never resell any of them, anyway, I collect games.

[Ryzaki]

scyphozoa wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Sure, you cannot resell them and that is fine for me because I only buy games I know I want to keep.

 

How can you know you will like a game before you buy it? 

by doing a couple hours of research. I usually know in the months leading up to a game's launch if I want to buy, rent or ignore it. This is just my consumer tendancy, when I get excited for a game, I go out of my way to collect more info and see more content. In doing so I usually collect enough info to make an informed decision on if the game is worth my money or not.  

I'm guessing you have no problem with spoilers?

I personally don't mind but I know some people who just plain do not want spoilers that actually ruins their enjoyment of the game.

Its not much to do with spoilers. I follow game studios and even developers very closely. I know who is competent enough to release a game that is worth 60 dollars to me. I don't want to sound snobbish - someone above said they thought they would like FF10. I personally know I love Sakaguchi, but that Squeenix has been dead to me for at least a decade. That is not to say other people might not love Squeenix, if you do, good for you, but I personally know they won't be delivering a product I ever want to buy.

Lets use RAGE for example. This is a game developed by Id and John Carmack that likely won't release until 2011. But with the info I have on it now, I know I am buying the most Limited Edition offered. Simply because I know what I like and I know who delivers what I like.

That's good for you. I personally find some games by Developers that I throughly enjoy and others that are complete crap or don't interest me. I don't buy a game just because its made by a specific developer (unless its BW and I should break myself from that habit).

Also: Though I didn't like FF10 I adored FF12. So :innocent:.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 11 mai 2010 - 04:03 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

dude that raffle sounds pretty sweet.

[-Skorpious-]

Regarding the debate between physical/digital games, I tend to prefer physical copies. Why? Not only do I pride myself in my collection (it isn't necessarily that big, but still a decent size) I find solace in the fact that I can continue playing the games I love years after digital/online servers close, technical crashes, failure to back-up data, ect.

Basically, physical copies are something you can see and interact with - they are something you can, with pride, show to your grandchildren. There is no love between digital transactions so to speak. To quote Zaeed - "you take away the human element from the process".

Thats no to say I disapprove of those who prefer digital transactions over physical copies - I simply stated my own opinion regarding the topic.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 11 mai 2010 - 04:19 .

[Empiro]

No matter what, a physical copy gives you the legal right to resell it or transfer ownership (by law, you can rent console games but not computer software), which is an advantage over any digital copy.

Like I said above, all these shenanigans by EA is just to get around that right.