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[Turin_4]

What are the arguments in favor of installing patch 1.03?  Should I install it?

So, the patch notes on 1.03 seem promising, particularly the part about addressing bugs for the expansion which I'm going to buy after I finish a replay.  On the other hand, there seem to be >100pgs of posts detailing some pretty serious, even crippling, bugs with 1.03.  Obviously that makes me leery of downloading and installing the patch, since the setup I had before when I was playing, the one I've still got, worked pretty well as far as I remember (it's been a couple of months at least since I played it last).

And since there are so many score pages of posts to wade through, I was a bit daunted.  Thought I'd just ask my question directly and hope for a simple, easy-to-find answer.  Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere.

[Schwinni]

The only reason to install patch 1.03 is Awakening. As long as you don't play it stay with 1.02a.

[Turin_4]

Can I take that to mean that if I wanted to play Awakening, the pros of installing would outweigh the cons?

[ShinsFortress]

In my opinion, do not install 1.03 and do not buy the expansion until all/most of the issues with 1.03 are fixed, if at all. Among other things 1.03 breaks something so *bleep*ingly basic and easy to spot with minimal QA as Stealing/PP.



Stick with 1.02a if you ask me and don't buy the expansion or more DLC.

[Schwinni]

An alternative could be using patch 1.03 together with Qwinn's Unofficial DA:O Fixpack.
It fixes the stealing bug introduced in 1.03, which was the most annoying bug for me.

[Schwinni]

Turin_4 wrote...

Can I take that to mean that if I wanted to play Awakening, the pros of installing would outweigh the cons?

No, but the setup will install patch 1.03, because it is needed for Awakening.

[Turin_4]

Schwinni,



That was going to be my next question-are there workarounds available for the bugs 1.03 introduces? It looks like there are. As someone who uses it, would you mind being my couple-of-questions guineapig? Does the fixpack deal with any of the other bugs 1.03 introduces?

[DeadJediJamie]

Turin_4 wrote...

Schwinni,

That was going to be my next question-are there workarounds available for the bugs 1.03 introduces? It looks like there are. As someone who uses it, would you mind being my couple-of-questions guineapig? Does the fixpack deal with any of the other bugs 1.03 introduces?

From what I've read of the changelog in Qwinns fix pack, it does fix most of the gameplay issues outlined here. However, it does not fix the instability issues that are present in 1.03. While these are not reported by every one, in fact some people have no problems at all, a lot of people have serious crashing issues.

Therefore you run the risk of making your game unstable even with the fix pack. As was stated earlier, unless you have Awakenings, there's virtually no reason to install 1.03. Maybe for the slow load times bug fix but some people even report that doesn't work as advertised.

[Turin_4]

Hmm. Good information guys, I appreciate it. I'm considering attempting 1.03 with the fixpack and a clean install, simply because I want to get a crack at that feast day stuff. Looks brief but interesting. I suppose I'll experiment to find out!

[TemjinGold]

I didn't have any crash issues with 1.03 at first but that was with a melee-heavy party. I recently started up a solo mage and now I'm getting crashes all the time when I try to use multiple spells. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Edge12674]

Bottom line..If you install 1.03 (which is required for anything after Return to Ostegar) then you will most likely have problems. The only question if whether the problems will be so great that the entire game will be unplayable. The chances of constant game crashing increases dramatically if you are using an OS newer that WindowsXP.



I suggest you get to a point in DA:O where you are ready to walk away from the game for months on end waiting for a patch to fix the patch!

[Hell Mutant]

is it safe to say that XP is the best OS to use with DA, currently?

[Edge12674]

It seems to have the fewest problems based on the posts on this board.  My personal experience is that I had NO crashes or long load times using XP prior to 1.03.  After 1.03 I started experiencing both, BUT I can still usually go six or more hours of play between these incidents.

Modifié par Edge12674, 12 mai 2010 - 04:21 .

[Hell Mutant]

Thanks, that's the feeling that I am getting from looking in the PC tech support forum, as well. Thinking about crossing over from PS3, I use a Mac, so I am faced with the choice of XP or 7 to run; I want to use the OS that runs with ME/ME2 and DAO/A best. I just want to make sure that it is worth the hassle of reformatting my desktop to stick Windows on a partitition.



Playing the Mac version seems pointless and frustrating.

[jsmile39]

My experience with XP-SP3 (32bit):



1.00-1.01: crashed a bit around Lothering but otherwise stable.

1.02a: has not crashed yet (~30 hours).

1.03: was relatively stable (5-10 crashes during first 10 hours), then started crashing 10+ times an hour in The Fade. 2 Mages in group.

ME2: stable, other than the occasional CTD in the galaxy map.



E8400

Asus P5Q-Pro

4gb DDR800 (only 3.25gb available)

Radeon 5850 (cat 10.2 official)

Aug'09 DX9 build



I honestly don't think OS will make much of a difference, in your shoes I would probably go with win7, unless you already have a copy of XP kicking around.

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

Hell Mutant wrote...

is it safe to say that XP is the best OS to use with DA, currently?

Most of my games run on XP and I'm a happy camper. However, with DA 1.03 its a really different matter. Gameplay wise it is stable on my XP rig but NEVER FORGETS TO CRASH specially when AOE spells are used. Also that 1.03 pest NEVER FAILS TO DROP MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FPS during and after combat.

Modifié par Gnaeus.Silvanus, 13 mai 2010 - 01:24 .

[GithCheater]

I had maybe one or two crashes with XP. I had long loading times prior to 1.03, but after 1.03 the long loading times mostly gone. However, 1.03 caused a slow reponse during large battles, where spells and talents would take over 10 seconds to activate.

[Eseraene]

I've had every one of my saved games running at about half-speed starting today; I installed 1.03 over a week ago, and up til now everything had been running fine. It's like the game's taking place underwater, though the audio still runs as normal.

[dr dANGER boy]

I say install v1.03. People spend so much timing complaining about it and trying to boycott Bioware that they don't realize the community has fixed many of these bugs. As for the crashing, I get maybe 1 or 2 crashes per playthrough. Haven't had one in over 15 hours of gameplay. No framerate issues and the like. Yes, there are things to fix, but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

[Levi28001]

This is the most useless thread...

Install 1.03 if something requires it.  IE Awakenings or some DLC.  Or as a last resort if you have 1.02a and it crashs a lot with nothing fixing it, then try 1.03.
^Done.

Otherwise No from me.

[Turin_4]

Well, thanks for that unnecessary and contradictory bit of criticism, Levi. Unnecessary because it seems strange to come into a thread that plainly states its purpose in the title, and contradictory because despite its supposedly being useless you go on and participate anyway.

[Rhys Cordelle]

I'm on Windows 7 and never had a single crash or noticable issue until 1.03 was installed.

[Turin_4]

I'm on Windows XP, and thus far have had very few crashes (count on one hand), and those might have been from other factors. There were a couple of brief slowdowns, but things were quite crowded. I used the fixpack, too.

[matti_73]

Edge12674 wrote...

Bottom line..If you install 1.03 (which is required for anything after Return to Ostegar) then you will most likely have problems. The only question if whether the problems will be so great that the entire game will be unplayable. The chances of constant game crashing increases dramatically if you are using an OS newer that WindowsXP.

I suggest you get to a point in DA:O where you are ready to walk away from the game for months on end waiting for a patch to fix the patch!

If you install 1.03 standalone and then Awakening on top of that, your game will crash. In my case, I installed Awakening on fresh DA:O installation (patch 1 .03 is implemented in Awakening installator). Effect? Game runs perfectly. In my opinion, the lazyness of Bioware programmers causes the problem, coz it seems that Awekning installator does not recognize corecty if patch 1.03 is already installed or not, and it apllies the patch once more, on already patched game, which causes crashes. This is my suspicion. Sorry for my english, I hope you manage to understand something. :]