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[DeadJediJamie]

matti_73 wrote...

Edge12674 wrote...

Bottom line..If you install 1.03 (which is required for anything after Return to Ostegar) then you will most likely have problems. The only question if whether the problems will be so great that the entire game will be unplayable. The chances of constant game crashing increases dramatically if you are using an OS newer that WindowsXP.

I suggest you get to a point in DA:O where you are ready to walk away from the game for months on end waiting for a patch to fix the patch!

If you install 1.03 standalone and then Awakening on top of that, your game will crash. In my case, I installed Awakening on fresh DA:O installation (patch 1 .03 is implemented in Awakening installator). Effect? Game runs perfectly. In my opinion, the lazyness of Bioware programmers causes the problem, coz it seems that Awekning installator does not recognize corecty if patch 1.03 is already installed or not, and it apllies the patch once more, on already patched game, which causes crashes. This is my suspicion. Sorry for my english, I hope you manage to understand something. :]

This is quite simply not true. I installed Awakening/1.03 on top of an installation using patch 1.02a and the result was exactly the same as every other time I've installed 1.03.

[matti_73]

What do you mean? Awakening installation on DA:O v. 1.02a? What I mean is clear DA:O installation, without even patch 1.01, not to mention 1.02a. Did you try this?

[Zepplin_Rules]

Sadomasochism???

[DeadJediJamie]

matti_73 wrote...

What do you mean? Awakening installation on DA:O v. 1.02a? What I mean is clear DA:O installation, without even patch 1.01, not to mention 1.02a. Did you try this?

It was my understanding that you meant that one must install Awakenings and the patch onto a DA:O installation that doesn't presently have 1.03 installed, that about right?  If that's what you meant then I can tell you that this makes no difference at all.

To further clarify, I've installed it onto an installation running no patches at all. Nothing changed. The problem seems to be related to multiple cores, as running only one core via core affinity makes the game playable again.

[tuominenx5]

matti_73 wrote...

What do you mean? Awakening installation on DA:O v. 1.02a? What I mean is clear DA:O installation, without even patch 1.01, not to mention 1.02a. Did you try this?

Yeah, your post is B.S. I've done a fresh install of DA:O from DVD, upgraded to patch 1.03, installed Awakening and then my DLC. 

Didn't have one bit of a problem, in fact I just beat it again this morning.

And yes, this is why producers are turning away from PC. You've got 200 people out of the million that bought the game have problems and all of a sudden its a train wreck.

I have not had ONE issue with DA:O, ANY of the DLC, Awakening or any of the patches. 

[Lord Khaan]

In fairness to Bioware, I think they are one of the best when it comes to programming. Im on the lower end of the requirements list, and I can run DAO/A on full spec without it even hanging. Sometimes the load screens take a bit, but again thats my fault cause of my PC spec.
On this note, Ive not had 1 problem with DAO/A except for buggering up the SQL DB (and thats my fault) heh. Its been smooth sailing all the way and on all 6 play throughs.

Modifié par Lord Khaan, 20 mai 2010 - 01:30 .

[Eurypterid]

As you can tell from the various posts, it really comes down to whether or not you want to take the chance. It may work fine for you or you may end up with an unplayable crash fest.



No one can tell you exactly what will happen with your rig. I have it installed on my Win XP SP3 rig (dual core CPU, and I don't bother setting affinity). Installed the 1.03 patch right when it was released over a 1.02a game and then installed Awakening over that. I had no crash issues. Oddly, the only crashes I experienced were before patch 1.03, especially in Denerim.



That being said, I haven't dared patch it above 1.02a on my Win7 64 bit rig (quad core CPU), as it seems to me that among the majority of reports with problems are people with Win7 64 bit rigs.



I guess the worst case scenario is you'd have to reinstall, but that's a big pain in the backside.

[DeadJediJamie]

Elps wrote...

DeadJediJamie wrote...

matti_73 wrote...

What do you mean? Awakening installation on DA:O v. 1.02a? What I mean is clear DA:O installation, without even patch 1.01, not to mention 1.02a. Did you try this?

It was my understanding that you meant that one must install Awakenings and the patch onto a DA:O installation that doesn't presently have 1.03 installed, that about right?  If that's what you meant then I can tell you that this makes no difference at all.

To further clarify, I've installed it onto an installation running no patches at all. Nothing changed. The problem seems to be related to multiple cores, as running only one core via core affinity makes the game playable again.

That may be the case for you. It didn't make a shred of difference to me. But, hey, if people get the game running when its only on one core and they are happy to max one core out at 100% while the others stay idle, that's their choice. 

Origins plays well on my system with patch 1.02a. Awakening doesn't. Every other game I have runs flawlessly on my Win 7 64-bit quad core gaming machine. If Bioware can do it for ME then it should be able to do it with DA as well. 

No way did I say that the core affinity was the way to go. It runs horribly and I would never advocate using this method to get the game running stably, it's just one possible fix. I'm running 1.02a and that's where I draw the line for now. 

Let me be clear, I've tried updating Direct  X  through the developer redistributable, running in dx9 mode, disabling all online components within the game, reinstalling and running 1.03 on top of a fresh install and still the crashes persisted. However, disabling cores has at least stopped the crashes, but it isn't an acceptable compromise.

[matti_73]

Eurypterid wrote...


No one can tell you exactly what will happen with your rig. I have it installed on my Win XP SP3 rig (dual core CPU, and I don't bother setting affinity). Installed the 1.03 patch right when it was released over a 1.02a game and then installed Awakening over that. I had no crash issues.

Heh, when I done exactly the same, my game turns into a crashfest. Then I reinstalled everything, installed Awakaning on completly unpatched DA:O and....no crashes at all. Prefectly working game. Sodding miracle.

Eurypterid wrote...

As you can tell from the various
posts, it really comes down to whether or not you want to take the
chance. It may work fine for you or you may end up with an unplayable
crash fest.

Hmm...very true.

But it makes a
treads like this a little...pointless.

tuominenx5 wrote...

Yeah, your post is B.S. I've done a
fresh install of DA:O from DVD, upgraded to patch 1.03, installed
Awakening and then my DLC. 

Didn't have one bit of a problem, in
fact I just beat it again this morning.

And yes, this is why
producers are turning away from PC. You've got 200 people out of the
million that bought the game have problems and all of a sudden its a
train wreck.

I have not had ONE issue with DA:O, ANY of the DLC,
Awakening or any of the patches. 

haha,
developers turning away from PC coz 200 people complaining when million enyoing their game? Yeah, you are a moron.

Modifié par matti_73, 21 mai 2010 - 09:57 .

[Desasosiego]

Turin_4 wrote...

What are the arguments in favor of installing patch 1.03?  Should I install it?

Anger management training. So you can condition your body not to be overwhelmed by rage.

[-Zippi-]

Turin_4 wrote...

What are the arguments in favor of installing patch 1.03?  Should I install it?

So, the patch notes on 1.03 seem promising, particularly the part about addressing bugs for the expansion which I'm going to buy after I finish a replay.  On the other hand, there seem to be >100pgs of posts detailing some pretty serious, even crippling, bugs with 1.03.  Obviously that makes me leery of downloading and installing the patch, since the setup I had before when I was playing, the one I've still got, worked pretty well as far as I remember (it's been a couple of months at least since I played it last).

And since there are so many score pages of posts to wade through, I was a bit daunted.  Thought I'd just ask my question directly and hope for a simple, easy-to-find answer.  Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere.

There is only one reason to install this patch: You can't play Awakening without.

Then again the patch is a horrible mess of terrible bugs so you can't really play Awakening anyway.

I strongly suggest to stay away from this patch, and save Awakening for later or play it on PS3 or 360.