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[Getorex]

I'm Commander Shepard and the Arc Projector is the best overall heavy weapon in the universe.

Dims down herds of husks, eats armor alive, weakens or eliminates entire squads of baddies.

It is also LOOSELY based on a very real weapon: the Tetanizing Laser (look it up).
The tetanizing laser, as patented and described simply paralyzes a target with a stream of pulsing electricity delivered at distance (unlike tasers and related) via ionized channels of air. Dual ultraviolet lasers, side-by-side, ionize a channels of air to your target and the juice is sent down one ionized column, passes through the target, and then comes back up the other ionized channel to complete the circuit. The "tetanizing" part is from the modulation of the electricity - it is pulsed at a rate that shuts down skeletal muscles by freezing them in place. No pain (at least not much) and the deeper muscles (heart, smooth muscles of the gut, etc) are not affected. The target would merely find themself frozen in place and unable to move.

What is left out of the patent description but not from analyses of the device is that all it takes to turn it lethal or into a pain-inflicting device is a change in the power or the modulation, respectively, of the electric jolt being sent.

With appropriately placed mirrors, it would be possible to shoot around corners. You wouldn't be able to hit a line of targets the way the game's arc projector does but you could rapidly redesignate the lasers on target after target and fire a lethal or pain-dealing blast, pop pop pop pop.

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[cruc1al]

I like to think Widow is the best heavy weapon.

[Tlazolteotl]

I like to think Firestorm is the best heavy weapon.

'cos it's small and cute and yellow, and looks good on femshep's back.

[Gravbh]

cruc1al wrote...

I like to think Widow is the best heavy weapon.

It's funny because it's true.

Though in regards to the actual heavy weapon slot, the arc projector is my favorite.

[Getorex]

You take the Window over the Revenant AR? The Revenant is crappy on accuracy but does mega damage. The Widow just seems too specialized. Besides, I always play as soldier (I like the full access to weapons that seems lacking with the other types of character).



I'm on my 7th run in ME2 so MAYBE I'll give a shot to the sniper rifle when I go to the derelect reaper...I goofed once and accidently took the Krogan shotgun. What a waste.

[swk3000]

Getorex wrote...

You take the Window over the Revenant AR? The Revenant is crappy on accuracy but does mega damage. The Widow just seems too specialized. Besides, I always play as soldier (I like the full access to weapons that seems lacking with the other types of character).

I'm on my 7th run in ME2 so MAYBE I'll give a shot to the sniper rifle when I go to the derelect reaper...I goofed once and accidently took the Krogan shotgun. What a waste.

Let me explain it to you in very simple terms: When you headshot with the Widow, you're headshotting people with a freaking anti-tank rifle! I'd say it might as well be a Mass Accelerator Cannon, but even a Pistol is a Mass Accelerator Cannon, so it's a moot point. The point is that if you read the description of the weapon, it basically says it's designed to be used against armored vehicles.

Now, I don't know about you, but I find the idea of headshotting people with that kind of power mind-boggling. In an awesome sort of way.

[cruc1al]

Getorex wrote...

You take the Window over the Revenant AR? The Revenant is crappy on accuracy but does mega damage

The revenant IMO isn't much better than the vindicator except for ammo capacity. Since it's full auto, you have to be out of cover more than with the vindicator to achieve the same DPS. It has potentially a higher DPS but that requires you to be at close range; the overlap with shotgun is so great that I find it quite useless. When I'm close enough for Revenant to actually hit with nearly all bullets, I usually switch to the shotgun and get up close with AR unless there are a lot of enemies around.

As for widow, it's just faster and safer than revenant. One shot, one kill, no buts.

Modifié par cruc1al, 11 mai 2010 - 04:34 .

[Resheph_606]

Honestly, my use of any heavy weapon during my playthrough is very limited, but nearing the end, i set always my Heavy weapon to Tactical Nuke, it really helps one shot, many, many corpses.

[Getorex]

Resheph_606 wrote...

Honestly, my use of any heavy weapon during my playthrough is very limited, but nearing the end, i set always my Heavy weapon to Tactical Nuke, it really helps one shot, many, many corpses.

Sure, but it is a one-time off. My major issue is in the mission for getting Legion. LOTS of husks and so far I haven't found the magic mix of squad members to most effectively deal with them all. The nuke can quickly take out the core but that leaves a falling-back tactic against the repetive hoards of husks.

Of course, they are so stupid that during the last part, as I whittle down the core with a sniper rifle and my squad is down for the count (no more meds) I am able to simply pick off the husks bit by bit with Reave and AR fire while running around the area. The husks tend to clump up and follow you stupidly...but still, the portion before the core is overwhelming each time with the scion and the buttloads of husks in wave after wave. The arc projector does nice things to all the husks with each shot. A nuke at that point and your heavy is done and you are left with pea shooters and running.

[cruc1al]

Getorex wrote...

Resheph_606 wrote...

Honestly, my use of any heavy weapon during my playthrough is very limited, but nearing the end, i set always my Heavy weapon to Tactical Nuke, it really helps one shot, many, many corpses.

My major issue is in the mission for getting Legion. LOTS of husks and so far I haven't found the magic mix of squad members to most effectively deal with them all.

Mordin cryo blast. 4.5 sec cooldown.

[Gravbh]

The right squad mate selection shores up any potential weakness for any class. Mordin is amazing on the reaper IFF. Also, Widow > Revenant. With heightened adrenaline rush and upgrades the widow can 3 shot a scion on insanity. The vindicator does massive damage when used with adrenaline rush as well. You also have the plus side of actually having a use for your shotgun, whereas with the revenant you have no reason to ever pull the shotgun out.

Modifié par Gravbh, 11 mai 2010 - 05:58 .

[ObserverStatus]

My favorite is still the Cain, but I liked the Arc Projector too.

[OniGanon]

I like the Arc Projector best on my Infiltrator, but I prefer others on other classes. I like the Collector Particle Beam on my Assault Sentinel, for example. It's sort of like having a Viper without needing to choose Sniper Rifle training.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Is it effective agains t the final boss, or other big targets like gunships?

[cruc1al]

Shinian2 wrote...

Is it effective agains t the final boss, or other big targets like gunships?

I think it has a range limitation so the final boss would be out of the question... I think.

[tonnactus]

[quote]Getorex wrote...

[quote]Resheph_606 wrote...

Sure, but it is a one-time off. My major issue is in the mission for getting Legion. LOTS of husks and so far I haven't found the magic mix of squad members to most effectively deal with them all.
[/quote]

Mordin and samara with incinerate blast and area reave and some area biotic like throw field.The "nuke" destroy the core in one shot.So save the heavy weapon for the last part.

[IMethos]

Arc Projector is my favorite..it destroys armor and shields and stuns emenies for a few moments as they stand electricuted....brilliant

[JaegerBane]

cruc1al wrote...

Getorex wrote...

You take the Window over the Revenant AR? The Revenant is crappy on accuracy but does mega damage

The revenant IMO isn't much better than the vindicator except for ammo capacity. Since it's full auto, you have to be out of cover more than with the vindicator to achieve the same DPS. It has potentially a higher DPS but that requires you to be at close range; the overlap with shotgun is so great that I find it quite useless. When I'm close enough for Revenant to actually hit with nearly all bullets, I usually switch to the shotgun and get up close with AR unless there are a lot of enemies around.

As for widow, it's just faster and safer than revenant. One shot, one kill, no buts.

It's also got zero sustainability. You can 'one-shot one-kill' for a whole 14 shots before having to waltz around looking for ammo, which you collect one shot at a time. Meanwhile, Revenant users are getting on with combat.

I don't mind the Widow, really, but it's a very strange comparison to try and compare the Widow to the Revenant. It's like comparing a mushroom to a cheeseburger, on the basis that they're both edible. Practically the only thing in common is that you kill things with them.

The Rev is by far my fave gun... it's a boss-killer with few weaknesses, and once you've figured out burst-firing, it's brilliant. It does have some overlap with the shotty, true.... but there's still two roles. The shotty is better for popping out of cover-blast-hide tactics still.

On topic, the Arc Projector is win. Mashes defences, AoE, zaps and fries enemies.... Practical, cool, and powerful. I only tend to use that, the Particle Beam and the Cain.

[JaegerBane]

Shinian2 wrote...

Is it effective agains t the final boss, or other big targets like gunships?

It wtfpwns Donovan's gunship in Kasumi's mission. Even before it's shields go down, you can actually push them all the way down to 1/4 strength.

To be honest, I've yet to use it on an enemy that it hasn't wtfpwned.

[xiiz]

 I prefer the Blackstorm Projector, if for nothing else, then for the fancy explosion. 

[cruc1al]

JaegerBane wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Getorex wrote...

You take the Window over the Revenant AR? The Revenant is crappy on accuracy but does mega damage

The revenant IMO isn't much better than the vindicator except for ammo capacity. Since it's full auto, you have to be out of cover more than with the vindicator to achieve the same DPS. It has potentially a higher DPS but that requires you to be at close range; the overlap with shotgun is so great that I find it quite useless. When I'm close enough for Revenant to actually hit with nearly all bullets, I usually switch to the shotgun and get up close with AR unless there are a lot of enemies around.

As for widow, it's just faster and safer than revenant. One shot, one kill, no buts.

It's also got zero sustainability. You can 'one-shot one-kill' for a whole 14 shots before having to waltz around looking for ammo, which you collect one shot at a time. Meanwhile, Revenant users are getting on with combat.

I don't mind the Widow, really, but it's a very strange comparison to try and compare the Widow to the Revenant. It's like comparing a mushroom to a cheeseburger, on the basis that they're both edible. Practically the only thing in common is that you kill things with them.

The Rev is by far my fave gun... it's a boss-killer with few weaknesses, and once you've figured out burst-firing, it's brilliant. It does have some overlap with the shotty, true.... but there's still two roles. The shotty is better for popping out of cover-blast-hide tactics still.

You're better off popping one-shot kills with the widow when you have the opportunity and using vindicator when you dont, because vindicator has a higher DPS than revenant most of the time. You won't run out of ammo with widow + vindi any more than by just using the revvy.

Modifié par cruc1al, 11 mai 2010 - 09:23 .

[Omicrone]

cruc1al wrote...

You're better off popping one-shot kills with the widow when you have the opportunity and using vindicator when you dont, because vindicator has a higher DPS than revenant most of the time. You won't run out of ammo with widow + vindi any more than by just using the revvy.

Yea, but you don't get to spray like a madman. For someone who's trigger-happy, firing the revenant's like having an index finger orgasm lol Once you press the mouse button you don't want to let go

[LeingodX]

Where the heck do I get heavy weapon ammo? I've been trying to shoot the Cain but it never reaches 100%

[Doriath]

LeingodX wrote...

Where the heck do I get heavy weapon ammo? I've been trying to shoot the Cain but it never reaches 100%

On missions there are heavy weapon ammo boxes. You just have to collect enough. That is exactly why I don't like the Cain though. I've never had a situation where I needed a mini-nuke to save me. I'll take the avalanche most of the time, because the feeze duration is very long in comparison to cryo ammo or even deep cryo freeze. The Arc Projector is a fantastic heavy weapon though.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 12 mai 2010 - 01:26 .

[LeingodX]

chrisnabal wrote...

On missions there are heavy weapon ammo boxes. You just have to collect enough. That is exactly why I don't like the Cain though. I've never had a situation where I needed a mini-nuke to save me. I'll take the avalanche most of the time, because the feeze duration is very long in comparison to cryo ammo or even deep cryo freeze. The Arc Projector is a fantastic heavy weapon though.

Thanks for the feedback. I wish there was some way to produce heavy weapon ammo, at the expense of resources or whatever.