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[Brako Shepard]

Hello to all,

I know BioWare like the give the gamer the chance to play the game there way. But overall they always have a plan for what the real playthrough will actually be about when it comes to the sequal.
Do you think Dragon Age 2 will focus on the child that Morrigan gives birth to, or do you think that was only a minor out-come of the epilogue?

I suppose this could be done though, as even if the player never choose that particular scene of the game. They could still work it into the sequal. If your player did sleep with Morrigan that night, then great, she will acknowlegde this in the sequal. If not then it could just be a case that she used someone else to give her a child.

So what do you think will be the main story sections that appear in Dragon Age 2?

[mousestalker]

I think the main problem to be solved in DAII will be the ceaseless waves of Nuglocks be spawned by the Broodnugs that were created when Schmooples was kidnapped by darkspawn in the Deep Roads.

[Brako Shepard]

The what in the what now?

[Ramante]

Brako Shepard wrote...
Hello to all,

I know BioWare like the give the gamer the chance to play the game there way. But overall they always have a plan for what the real playthrough will actually be about when it comes to the sequal.
Do you think Dragon Age 2 will focus on the child that Morrigan gives birth to, or do you think that was only a minor out-come of the epilogue?

I suppose this could be done though, as even if the player never choose that particular scene of the game. They could still work it into the sequal. If your player did sleep with Morrigan that night, then great, she will acknowlegde this in the sequal. If not then it could just be a case that she used someone else to give her a child.

So what do you think will be the main story sections that appear in Dragon Age 2?

I don't think Morrigan will use someone else to get a child.. she was not after a child but after the 'essence' of the Old God and she needed a Grey Warden because she needed the taint. If she gets a child from someone else, that child will just be... a child and nothing more.

It's difficult to predict what will be the new story and I fear it has little to do with what happened in Origins.. there are just too many options and if you include Awakening it gets even more complicated. Assuming DA 2 is still about Grey Wardens fighting Darkspawn you can have 2 stories; after you have killed the Architect the darkspawn keep looking for an Old God and/or run around killing people, the other possibility is that you are supposed to stop the Architects masterplan (The Calling spoilers).

So I have actually no idea.

[webbedfeet]

The economic crash in Thedas following your Warden's spamming of Potent Lyrium Potions, which by collateral damage also causes a new Exalted March to keep the Chantry's monopoly of lyrium in place?

I can see the headlines in The Orlais Times just now...

[UNSC Spartin]

I think they are probably going to do something with Morrigan. Bioware has always been very in tune with what player wants and rarely don't deliver. There has been from what I have seen a lot of talk about Morrigan on the forums and I don't think bioware can really just ignore that. I recall hearing that Orlais was going to be added to the map. Plus I think a story about Morrigan and a child with the taint of an old god is far more interesting and original. Otherwise thing are starting to sound a lot more like Gears of War and where that story is headed.

[Herr Uhl]

The rise of the cranium nugs, of course.

[BigBad]

The problem with basing the sequel around Morrigan's child is that it would completely invalidate suspension of disbelief for people who refused the ritual and made the ultimate sacrifice. How do you base an entire game around a single optional choice from the first game without screwing people's continuity?

[Ramante]

BigBad wrote...

The problem with basing the sequel around Morrigan's child is that it would completely invalidate suspension of disbelief for people who refused the ritual and made the ultimate sacrifice. How do you base an entire game around a single optional choice from the first game without screwing people's continuity?

That's easy.. just make it impossible to import a character from Origins. They can say that another Warden did the Ritual with Morrigan and got her pregnant and that is your job to hunt her/the child down. This way the story can take place 20 years after the end of the Blight.

[mousestalker]

Herr Uhl wrote...

The rise of the cranium nugs, of course.

Cranium nugs? You mean like http://www.youtube.c...JPFSNu_QNs]this[/url]?

"What do you want to do tonight, Brain?"

"Same thing we do every night, Schmooples, try to take over the world!"

Cue music.

Is that what you meant?

'cause that would totally rock.

Modifié par mousestalker, 11 mai 2010 - 06:39 .

[Brako Shepard]

Yeah its just like when they give the player the ability to kill Shepard in Mass Effect 2. Even though he can die, that save won't be able to work on ME3.



They probably have there own stories created, but still give the player chances to change but not impossible to get around.



There was probably a lot of sleeping at the camp in Origins. Whats to say Morrigan didn't casta spell so that she could have her way without the Warden knowing what was going on. Plus there are Wardens all over the land who she could eventually bump into and use.



Or it could be a whole new story that has no continuation from Origins. From a rumour I heard ages ago. It seems they have around 2 years worth of DLC for Origins. I am pretty sure if that is true, they could no doubt tie everything up in one game and then move on to a new story.

[fretmelta]

Id love for there to be more about Morrigan, but as pointed out there is a choice some will not take so maybe if could be to do with some strife in another country where there are other grey wardens. Maybe she went to get a child from one of them and got caught up or she is the cause of the trouble.

Or it could have more to do with the ruler of Ferelden and another people, the Quanari invasion perhaps

[BigBad]

What Wardens all over the land? There are exactly three of them in Ferelden during the game, and one is in Howe's dungeon. If you or Alistair don't do the ritual, then, yeah, Morrigan could have a kid with some random dude, but it wouldn't carry the taint from the Joining. Not to mention, the child has to have been concieved before the death of the Archdemon.



If the archdemon dies before the child is concieved, then it's soul does not seek out the tainted child, which does not at this point yet exist, and it instead acts normally and attempts to displace the Grey Warden's soul, destroying both in the process.



So, I'm not sure where people get this idea that even if you turned down Morrigan's offer, she still has her little god-baby. If you turn her down, even after having slept with her previously, and you take the final blow, you die. Thus, the Old God's soul did not seek out another host, and even if Morrigan had a child, it would just be a baby.

[Ramante]

fretmelta wrote...

Id love for there to be more about Morrigan, but as pointed out there is a choice some will not take so maybe if could be to do with some strife in another country where there are other grey wardens. Maybe she went to get a child from one of them and got caught up or she is the cause of the trouble.

Like I said, she didn't want a child she was after the essence of the Old God. Despite her magic I doubt she was capable of finding another junior member of the order in one night. (leaving the night before the battle, get to Orlais because no other Wardens in Ferelden and get pregnant)

fretmelta wrote...
Or it could have more to do with the ruler of Ferelden and another people, the Quanari invasion perhaps

And how do you combine the darkspawn with that? The Grey Wardens are supposed to be neutral and fight darkspawn.. and Sten makes clear that the Qunari value the Wardens highly so I don't think they will fight eachother.

Edit:
@BigBad, if you have slept with Morrigan before the DR (and you refuse to do that), you will get an epilogue card that says that Morrigan has been seen with a child. So she still gets pregnant, but not with the Old God essence.

Modifié par Ramante, 11 mai 2010 - 06:58 .

[Zy-El]

BigBad wrote...
The problem with basing the sequel around Morrigan's child is that it would completely invalidate suspension of disbelief for people who refused the ritual and made the ultimate sacrifice. How do you base an entire game around a single optional choice from the first game without screwing people's continuity?

Morrigan only needs to have sex with a male who'd survived the Joining.  As I recall, we never did account for the missing Old God blood from the GW Vault that makes the Joining possible.  Since Morrigan knows about the Joining and her Dark Ritual, it only stands to reason that she would also know how to manufacture the Joining blood.  Who's to say that she did not enchant a sucker or ten to take the Joining and have sex with whomever survived it.  This would get-around your PC knowing about who impregnated her.

Of course, this theory would not work for those players who chose the ultimate sacrifice and died after killing the AD.  But then again, this can be overlooked as it was done so in Awakening.

[Riot Inducer]

Well if Arl Foreshadow is accurate it seems like there's a good chance that Morrigan and the god-child will be in the sequel, "Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade ~Terrible two's indeed!" I'm not sure how many ways that entry can be taken, as it's pretty clearly referring to both magic/spirits and child bearing/raising. 

The other entries seem to suggest we'll hear a lot more about Orlais (possibly another Orlesian attack on Ferelden?). As well as more explanation and story relating to the ancient elves ("Survivors? poppycock!" ~ Perhaps we have a "lost hidden city" thing going on?). 
I'm not sure what to make of his last entry, but regardless, this guy seems to me to be our best bet at guess-working our way to DA2's plot. 

Brako Shepard wrote...
Or it could be a whole new story that has no continuation from Origins. From a rumour I heard ages ago. It seems they have around 2 years worth of DLC for Origins. I am pretty sure if that is true, they could no doubt tie everything up in one game and then move on to a new story.

If that's the case they'd better get working on those DLC's because "Darkspawn Chronicles" looks to be nothing but an alternate timeline romp that'll add nothing nor solve anything story-wise and the Awakening expansion added a lot more loose ends to be tied up. 

[Zy-El]

Loose ends? I killed the Architect - one less loose end.



From the epilogue in Awakening, it sounds like time will progress 5 years till the next chapter (whether it be an expansion or the sequel DA2). Might we have a 5-year-old Old God child to contend with?

[Tinxa]

I'll make my guesses about Arl Foreshadow notes:

DA2 will take place in Orlais

The main plot will revolve around fade spirits causing trouble (Maybe veil tears start appearing all over the place and you find out why and how to stop it)

The key for final victory is some long lost Arlathan relic that you have to find

[Daerog]

Whatever the second game will be, I assume/hope it will be as far removed from the events of DA:O as possible, maybe make some mention of it, but be somewhere else and not be a Grey Warden.

[alickar]

well since you defeated the arch demon in DAO 1 i think the darkspawn find another old god or they find new leadership such as the architect or something else n so you have to save the world once again

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I think the sequel will most likely end in a cliff hanger. I'm thinking 100% that it will revolve around Morrigan's dark ritual, but I hope they would give you the option of picking who the father was: your warden, Alistair, or Loghain. If the old god was a girl, then she would resemble Alistair's sister or Anora depending on who the father was. I don't know how they will implement the warden being the father, but would be pretty funny...

[Der Kirk]

I think the morrigan/ OGC thing will probably become a non-cannon side quest. Kinda like Bioware throwing us a bone.

[Fizzeler]

If they did continue your warden they could flash ahead 30 or so years and have you fight in the deep roads from The Calling



I would think it would be less Darkspawn oriented though why I am not sure just maybe a nation at war who commands the Order Of The Grey to fight for them as you bring order to wherever

[silverholly83]

fretmelta wrote...

Id love for there to be more about Morrigan, but as pointed out there is a choice some will not take so maybe if could be to do with some strife in another country where there are other grey wardens. Maybe she went to get a child from one of them and got caught up or she is the cause of the trouble.
Or it could have more to do with the ruler of Ferelden and another people, the Quanari invasion perhaps

This is what I'm hoping for.

[BHRamsay]

alickar wrote...

well since you defeated the arch demon in DAO 1 i think the darkspawn find another old god or they find new leadership such as the architect or something else n so you have to save the world once again

I would like this idea ...and depending on your choices one of your companions would be revealed as the god-baby. You would be trying to prevent the Darkspawn from corrupting another more powerful Sleeping Old God.