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[Feraele]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...
it all comes down to comfort factor. sure graphics on consoles lack in comparison to pc but comfort is the decisive factor. Plus most folks don't want to deal with problems that are associated when playing new games on computer (crashes, game not running, etc. etc.).

I can't stand console controllers. Keyboard and mouse is so much faster if you know what you're doing that there's no comparison. There's a reason why some games (DA:O) have their difficulty decreased for the console version.

As for screen size, it all depends on where you sit. I find the interface elements of console games clunky and too big as a rule, and the fonts much too large (this does include ME2's interactive elements like door switches, fonts are borderline OK). It all lacks elegance - and I *still* read about people complaining the fonts are too small! I don't get it, just sit closer to the screen, people.

The only advantage I've seen from the popularity of console gaming is that I can actually play games on my PC with a three-year-old graphics card. But you do see it. Texture resolution is about a quarter of what I'd actually like to see - just look at Shepard's N7 armor in ME2.

I can understand people want to pay less for their platforms and have less technical problems with their games. But as for visual quality as well as controls, things have gone down. Quite a bit.

I have a four year old PC,  and a four year old graphics card........DA:O plays fine for me.     I have a custom built gaming computer.     Four years old and nothing wrong with it..but if I find I want to upgrade...I can upgrade piece by piece,  not necessary to go out and buy a whole new machine.

Thats what I like about computers, and thats why I'll remain a PC owner.    I have no problems using a mouse for combat...nor my keyboard.   

I think possibly its a generational thing.     I started out on PC back in 1988...I am comfortable with them and thats about the size of it.     I have tried the old consoles..played Zelda Ocarina of time..and some old time games like that.     Hated having to sit on the floor in front of the tv in order to play.

Much more comfortable in my comfy computer chair with my pillows and foot rest.

[Tirigon]

Aradace wrote...

The main reason they are so popular is because not alot of people know how to mod very well....(myself included) and dont want to have to bother with learning tons of computer jargen/tech/etc. in oder to get more out of a game. 

I am totally unable to mod myself, too (except for the basics if I find a good guide) but I still can use the mods others made B)

I remember in Oblivion, for example, where the folder for the mods was twice as big as the vanilla game .... Ah good times. Thing is, after playing some games with mods I just can´t imagine playing the vanilla game anymore.

[Feraele]

Borschtbeet wrote...

PC gaming has a lot of technical faff that many gamers just don't care to be bothered with. Many gamers don't want to research about hardware and have to upgrade components every year.

Consoles are convenient and cheap. Since gaming is a leisure activity there is nothing wrong with preferring a little convenience.

The greater accessibility and price advantage of consoles is the reason why consoles have always had an edge in the market over PC gaming.

Components don't need to be upgraded every year...lol.

Unless you really abuse your machine somehow, or you're into the technological race that some are...biggest screens,  highest resolution graphic cards and the like.    Pffft.

I have a middle of the road gaming computer..works fine...and I don't have everything jacked up sky-high either..no need.

[Nightfish103]

I am surprised people still try to claim PC games are pirated more than console games. Pirating an Xbox game is no harder than pirating a PC game.



As far as popularity goes... Might well be that there are more console players than PC gamers. Doesn't really matter to me. I prefer the PC, as long as there's good games to be had here, I'll buy them. Unfortunately gaming in general is getting more and more shallow, but that's another story.

[Tirigon]

Darht Jayder wrote...

It's also very easy to hack an xbox and pirate games at will.

I wonder how you do that. I know it´s possible, but I can´t imagine how....

Modifié par Tirigon, 11 mai 2010 - 07:28 .

[Pacifien]

Evewyn wrote...
I agree with all the above and want to add, playing in the comfort of my living room in front of a 46" TV vs an uncomfy chair in front of a 20" computer screen... yeah. Console for me!

This is why my 46" TV is my computer screen.

But consoles have been where it's at for years now. I'm always anticipating the demise of PC gaming. I suppose I should be thankful to MMOs for saving it.

[Feraele]

PC is a multitask machine, can be used for other purposes besides just gaming..I highly doubt it will vanish.

[Tirigon]

Feraele wrote...

PC is a multitask machine, can be used for other purposes besides just gaming..I highly doubt it will vanish.

This is also true.


But I think that doesn´t mean companies can´t stop making games for the PC, if they would want to.

I hope they don´t.

[Feraele]

Tirigon wrote...

Feraele wrote...

PC is a multitask machine, can be used for other purposes besides just gaming..I highly doubt it will vanish.

This is also true.


But I think that doesn´t mean companies can´t stop making games for the PC, if they would want to.

I hope they don´t.

If dev teams and publishers are willing to fork over in the multi-millions to make games,  rpg or mmo..I highly doubt they are going to forget one sector of the gaming population..in favour of the "young set" that prefer CURRENTLY to play on consoles.    I forsee that as people get older ..they may find themselves preferring to get a good chair ..comfortable to sit in ..to play on a PC.

Its all about lifestyle.    And I think console is definitely more popular with the younger generation at this point...til something new comes along.    Technology seems to be ever-changing.    I think that PC gaming will stay around....despite the rumours to the contrary. 

[boomgosthedino]

I proffer PC gaming over console gaming. I just love the mods' and its smoother game play, along with its better graphics.
 Don't see why everyone thinks you need to spend 1k on a PC to run at max, cause you don't. My old PC lasted 5 years and even now still runs all games better then a console would, I only upgraded its GPU. The PC only costed me around $600. Now I've built a new PC using some parts from the old one to save money and its only costed me $280ish. Now I'm set for several more years. As far as upgrades go you don't always need the newest stuff out. I med range GPU that cost $150ish will last you a long time say the ATI 5770 or something around there. No need for a $600 GPU.

Also everyone playing their console games on a big 40-60" 1080p TV is really useless cause you are not playing at full 1080p seeing how all console games really only support 720p res. When the game says 1080p on the box it is not FULL 1080p. Also you will have FPS drops with bigger TVs cause the console cant take it. you may not notice cause you are use to frame drops. But play on a PC then go to console and its like WTF.

But I do believe Console are more popular cause of a lot of little kids going to their mommy asking for a Xbox, cause they have a better chance getting a console then a PC, plus they wouldn't know what to look for in a PC anyway... Also game developers seems to like console now more cause of all the little kids going nuts over games like MW2. see how they ripped them off with crappy night version that's not worth a crap. think little kids care? nope they go running to mommy. Console gamers get ripped. well the 12 year old's do XD but almost everyone on live is 12. so yeah.

[invert180]

I find the "lower price of consoles" to be a moot point, and not as persuasive as you'd think.

With the prices of TVs costing upwards of $400 to over $1000 dollars, plus having to purchase the console ($300), plus game prices costing $10-$20 more than PC games... console gamers may, in fact, be paying far more in the long run.  This is in addition to the fact that the majority of individuals will undoubtedly have a PC in the house anyway.  So instead of paying for all of the console stuff on top of getting a PC that you'll get anyway... why not simply purchase a PC that costs slightly more for gaming purposes?  Then you have a device capable of doing schoolwork or work, browsing the internet, and playing games.

I would also like to note that statistics on game sales are skewed.  The organizations that track such sales are only able to look at retail sales.  For the PC, the majority of purchases have moved to digital outlets, where I've seen estimates as high as 80% of all PC game purchases thrown about.  So until we are able to track all digital sales as well, we will never know exactly how much it is.

[svenus97]

Aradace wrote...

svenus97 wrote...

Apparently? Console gaming has much more players then PC.

Yea...the apparently part was added simply because I felt like being nice lol

Well One system can't have more then 3 consoles, kudos for being nice :happy:

[Busomjack]

Can't say for certain which platform has the most piracy. However, the PC market is smaller than the console market and thus piracy has a larger impact overall.
That is why the only exclusives we see on the PC these days(with a few exceptions) are strategy games(because nobody likes playing strategy games with a controller) and MMORPGS(can't pirate them, there are private servers however but not sure how widespread a problem they are yet.)

The future of PC gaming is World of Warcraft, World of Warcraft, strategy games, and an occasional Blizzard masterpiece once a decade.  PC gamer's brought it upon themselves with their greed so they should stop blaming developers for not wanting to develop games for people who don't even think they should have to pay for their products.

Modifié par Busomjack, 11 mai 2010 - 09:57 .

[svenus97]

Busomjack wrote...

Can't say for certain which platform has the most piracy. However, the PC market is smaller than the console market and thus piracy has a larger impact overall.
That is why the only exclusives we see on the PC these days(with a few exceptions) are strategy games(because nobody likes playing strategy games with a controller) and MMORPGS(can't pirate them, there are private servers however but not sure how widespread a problem they are yet.)

The future of PC gaming is World of Warcraft, World of Warcraft, strategy games, and an occasional Blizzard masterpiece once a decade.  PC gamer's brought it upon themselves with their greed so they should stop blaming developers for not wanting to develop games for people who don't even think they should have to pay for their products.

The piracy goes with PC>Wii>360, with PS3 being anti pirateable.
Here is a list from 1.1.2010 about most pirated games, surprising Prototype got so much pirated, I loved the game and its a recommended buy, I want mah Prototype 2!

Torrent Freak released a list of most pirated games in 2009 for PC,
Xbox 360 and Wii, and Modern Warfare 2 is the most pirated game for PC and 360. Note that
there is no piracy on PS3. Also worth mentioning is that some games
such as DiRT 2 for 360 and Punch-Out for Wii, the piracy rate is
actually higher that the total sales of the game; and there seems to be
more people pirating Wii games than Xbox 360, with PC higher than both
consoles.

PC (by downloads)

• Call
  of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 4,100,000
• The Sims 3 - 3,200,000
• Prototype - 2,350,000
• Need for Speed Shift - 2,100,000
• Street Fighter IV - 1,850,000

Xbox 360 (by downloads)

• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 970,000
• Street Fighter IV - 840,000
• Prototype - 810,000
• DiRT 2 - 790,000
• UFC 2009 Undisputed - 720,000

Wii (by downloads)

• New
  Super Mario Bros. Wii - 1,150,000
• Punch-Out!! - 950,000
• Wii Sports Resort - 920,000
• The House of the Dead: Overkill - 860,000
• Mario Power Tennis - 830,000

[Outamyhead]

The PC games market is no smaller than the 360 games market, the sales figures presented by the original OP is a mass figure of every console video game sold platform wide, and if you include the PS2 in that figure it's four games consoles (because it's still around and still selling games and consoles), the PC is 250K in sales ahead of a single console platform (since we don't have specific sales figures I just divided console profits), and that is most likely not including PC games sales on STEAM or Direct2Drive.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Nice to see HOuse of the Dead overkill get some loooooove, even if it was pirate love. Game is pretty cheap now because not many bought it

[Busomjack]

Outamyhead wrote...

The PC games market is no smaller than the 360 games market, the sales figures presented by the original OP is a mass figure of every console video game sold platform wide, and if you include the PS2 in that figure it's four games consoles (because it's still around and still selling games and consoles), the PC is 250K in sales ahead of a single console platform (since we don't have specific sales figures I just divided console profits), and that is most likely not including PC games sales on STEAM or Direct2Drive.

If you go to VGchartz.com and look up the sales of every multi-platform game you will find that the console version(usually Xbox360) sells the best.
If there are exceptions, I haven't found any.

Darth Jayder...give it a rest.  Plenty of other people have brought up piracy and you said nothing to them.  You don't have issue with the substance of my post, you just have an issue with me personally and are looking for any excuse necessary to whine about me.  You're pretty transparent.

Modifié par Busomjack, 11 mai 2010 - 10:15 .

[Outamyhead]

Funny most of those games pirated for the PC I own on the PS3, apart from MW2, I only play shooters on my PC, controls are ridiculous on a PS3 as I found out at my cousins. NFS: Shift is not a true driving sim, didn't even bother looking for it after the demo, graphics are nice, but that's it.

I think the main contributing factor to MW2 being so popular to pirate was due to the price tag, it was the first game to slap $10 extra on the price tag across all platforms it was shipping to.

And to be fair Jack since I have started frequenting the forum 9 times out of 10, your hatred of the PC gaming community is most apparent.

Modifié par Outamyhead, 11 mai 2010 - 10:24 .

[Busomjack]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Busomjack wrote...


Darth Jayder...give it a rest.  Plenty of other people have brought up piracy and you said nothing to them.  You don't have issue with the substance of my post, you just have an issue with me personally and are looking for any excuse necessary to whine about me.  You're pretty transparent.

Most others are still relating it to the original topic.  You have been using this thread to soapbox your opinions about PC gamers and piracy aside from the post directly above this one.  My issues with your personality not withstanding I have a point and you know it hence the reason you agreed to give it a rest on page one.

The issue relates to the original topic since the sales disparity between console and PC games is affected by the criminal behaviour of PC gamers.

[Busomjack]

Darht Jayder wrote...

On topic:

It is hardly a surpirise that console gaming is the method of choice given the convenience factors and cost. Piracy is not related in anyway as it is possible and easy to do with PC or console.

With consoles however, such as the Xbox360 there are modifications you have to do which can result in consequences.  For example, Microsoft banned over 1 million Xbox live accounts recently since they could detect the consoles had been modified.
With PCs, all you have to do is press a button.

Modifié par Busomjack, 11 mai 2010 - 10:29 .

[Norskatt]

Seriously...enough. Take the trolling elsewhere. You've voiced your opinion about piracy now it's time to move on.