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[Seagloom]

I haven't personally but I've had trustworthy friends swear by it. They add BG2 functionality to the original. That would get you higher resolutions, BG2 kits and classes, familiars, and the health thing that I thought worked in BG. I haven't used it myself because I prefer minimal mods in my games. I was keen with the idea of messing around with someone's creative vision much.

Modifié par Seagloom, 12 mai 2010 - 05:25 .

[The Grey Ranger]

Tutu is quite nice. It let's you use the BG2 engine, higher resolution, pause when you go into your inventory, tab key. It does alter some game play mechanics some though. It adds a summoning limit and some of the spells are altered. Still its a very nice piece of work, and after you've played through multiple times it's nice to add some new npc's, party banter and the like.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 12 mai 2010 - 05:15 .

[Ponce de Leon]

Seagloom wrote...
Gah! I had forgotten that Neried! Yes. A thousand times yes. That was straight up bad game design right there. Needing metagame knowledge to position a party member as my scapegoat was just lame.

at the bows part. So very very true.

But, it's not that pedophiles in real life will have a sign "warning, I am a dangerous man", right? This is the beauty of the game, and if we aren't willing to risk a bit and get a heart attack for the sudden death, then why play at all? Wasn't pretty much the same thing in Dragon age, the encampment in the Brecellian forest? And besides, talking to her is a waste, just for a crappy helm... You get 5 kilos for killing her, enough for 2 level with any class. That's one of my main targets for no reloads, but I guess I became a hazard scraper after beating the game 30 or so times... 

[AlanC9]

I'm actually just finishing a BG1 run right now. Aec'Lectec pwned my party last night -- man, they don't make fights like that any more.



BG1 unmodded suffers a little bit from comparison to BG2, most obviously with things like banters and general interface issues. The most annoying thing to me was limited inventory access in combat. Trying to fish scrolls out in the middle of combat... argh!



Most of the better moments have been covered by others here. I don't think the dungeon crawl's ever been done that matches Durlag's Tower.

[Dreadstruck]

I am just baffled by the terrible male voice sets in BG2.
There is this pompous pally 1 and 2, badass mercenary but albeit, too bloodthirsty for my taste, dumb orc and someone else I've forgotten.

I mean, none of them fit my neutral good warrior at all.
But do you guys have any other suggestions for other character sound packs etc. ?

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 12 mai 2010 - 08:06 .

[Kalithera]

WilliamShatner wrote...

BG1 + Tutu + NPC banter pack > BG2.

I've heard its good, but I haven't downloaded either yet. 
What does it change?

[Dreadstruck]

[quote]Kalithera wrote...
BG1 + Tutu + NPC banter pack > BG2.[/quote]
I've heard its good, but I haven't downloaded either yet. 
What does it change?[/quote]

It adds banters, interjections, romances and all the stuff that made BG2 lively.

But in my opinion, heavily modded BG2(Fixpack,Tweakpack,Flirtpack,banterpack,fixpack2whatever) trumphs pretty much everything. Damn, those were some good times(and still are!).

[Kalithera]

[quote]Avalla'ch wrote...

[quote]Kalithera wrote...
BG1 + Tutu + NPC banter pack > BG2.[/quote]
I've heard its good, but I haven't downloaded either yet. 
What does it change?[/quote]

It adds banters, interjections, romances and all the stuff that made BG2 lively.

But in my opinion, heavily modded BG2(Fixpack,Tweakpack,Flirtpack,banterpack,fixpack2whatever) trumphs pretty much everything. Damn, those were some good times(and still are!).
[/quote]
Hm... I want to do this, but I also want to play the game as it was meant to be played. Would you recommend downloading these after I've played the game through once?
Mainly, I just want more interjections from Xzar. He charmed me with his... insanity, I guess.

[Seagloom]

dark-lauron wrote...

But, it's not that pedophiles in real life will have a sign "warning, I am a dangerous man", right? This is the beauty of the game, and if we aren't willing to risk a bit and get a heart attack for the sudden death, then why play at all? Wasn't pretty much the same thing in Dragon age, the encampment in the Brecellian forest? And besides, talking to her is a waste, just for a crappy helm... You get 5 kilos for killing her, enough for 2 level with any class. That's one of my main targets for no reloads, but I guess I became a hazard scraper after beating the game 30 or so times... 

I don't do no reload challenges or solo runs even though I know the game well enough to try. I also think the Helm of Defense is pretty good if stacked with Boots of Grounding and a Ring of Fire Resistance. On its own, it's not too hot though, no.

In any case I agree with your sentiment but that encounter was rigged. If you're at all nice to her she kisses you. It doesn't matter if you decline. She will still kill a character. Maybe it's different if you pick a jerk-evil response but I admittedly never tried that with her. The majority of players go goody two shoes and will end up getting death-kissed. To me that encounter was a bad game design.

[Dreadstruck]

Kalithera wrote...
Hm... I want to do this, but I also want to play the game as it was meant to be played. Would you recommend downloading these after I've played the game through once?
Mainly, I just want more interjections from Xzar. He charmed me with his... insanity, I guess.

Hmm. Yep, since you've already played through the game you get the picture how it should have been etc.
I can only recommend installing stuff like this that adds some more flavour.

[AlanC9]

Seagloom wrote...
She will still kill a character. Maybe it's different if you pick a jerk-evil response but I admittedly never tried that with her. The majority of players go goody two shoes and will end up getting death-kissed. To me that encounter was a bad game design.

It's only bad if it happens to your PC. Otherwise you get rezzed and it's not a big deal.

[Seagloom]

Yes, that was what I meant. I had my PC in the lead when first encountering her. Now I metagame it by putting a mage ahead of everyone to take the hit. They don't rely on equipment much so I don't need to hurry up before the ogre mage spawns in. That feels lame but it can't be helped.

Modifié par Seagloom, 12 mai 2010 - 09:55 .

[TimelessWinter]

Favorite Moment: Every time Minsc talked to Boo (or the end of BG1)

Irritation: Viconias Romance =/ I could just never make her happy lol

I kinda wish Keldorn had more moments... I could always feel for the situations he had gone through.

and you can never go without baldurs gate moments

[Ponce de Leon]

I sacrificed David Hasselhoff, my unlucky cleric... seriously...

[Khayness]

How does Boo help in the last fight with Sarevok? Minsc got blew to pieces, I didn't get the chance to find out.

[Ponce de Leon]

Boo is too young to take revenge on Minsc's death, but sooner or later, Boo gets big...

[Zaxares]

dark-lauron wrote...

Boo is too young to take revenge on Minsc's death, but sooner or later, Boo gets big...

I dunno... If that's Boo you meet in ME2, then it's possibly been hundreds or even thousands of years and he's STILL a pipsqueak.

Anyway, some awesome moments in BG1:

- Killing Sarevok for the first time. Now THAT was a final battle... I remember locking Kivan onto the mage so he could keep him interrupted, and then getting blasted by those Fireball arrows from the enemy archer and going "WTF?!"... And then blowing ALL my charges on my Wand of Monster Summoning to surround Sarevok with hobgoblins to keep his busy (I think there were, like 16 hobbos around him at one point!), and laughing as Sarevok chops down 1 hobgoblin after another as I take down the rest of his party.

- Finding Varscona. By the end of the game, it was STILL the best longsword I had.

- Fighting my very first Ogre. I remember frantically running away and pelting him with arrows because he would one-shot ANYONE in my party.

- There was this awesome dialogue with a guy who's asleep when you break into his house and you try to pretend you're a cat... But I think I might be getting mixed up with BG2...

- Slaughtering the Xvart camp despite their feeble attempts to fight you. How can something so wrong be so fun?

- Plenty more I'm sure I can't recall right now.

Not so awesome moments in BG1:

- Save vs poison or die moments.

- Permanent level drains = Reload battles.

- "You must gather your party before venturing forth." Noooo, you stupid computer! Let me flee before the monsters catch up! ARGH, they caught up! Reload...

*sigh* Good times.

[Seagloom]

That dialogue is in the original BG. It's part of the optional thief guild quests and I agree it *is* funny. I loved how he just accepted your character is a stray cat after you tell him so. It was one of those perfect facepalm moments.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 mai 2010 - 11:01 .

[Ponce de Leon]

Best dialog option in BG1 is the one to Portalbendarwinden

(to Portalbendarwinden): Ok, I've just about had my FILL of riddle asking, quest assigning, insult throwing, pun hurling, hostage taking, iron mongering, smart arsed fools, freaks, and felons that continually test my will, mettle, strength, intelligence, and most of all, patience! If you've got a straight answer ANYWHERE in that bent little head of yours, I want to hear it pretty damn quick or I'm going to take a large blunt object roughly the size of Elminster AND his hat, and stuff it lengthwise into a crevice of your being so seldom seen that even the denizens of the nine hells themselves wouldn't touch it with a twenty-foot rusty halberd! Have I MADE myself perfectly CLEAR?!

And yes, the cat moment is perfect really

[HoonDing]

Kivan was so badass in this game. He always killed more than my fighters. I wish he & Viconia had more 'moments'.

I always kicked out Khalid & Jaheira for them. Couldn't stand that stuttering fool & the fake Slavic accent.

Seagloom wrote...

- Game balance. There were a few early
encounters that were just crazy. Meeting that mage assassin in front of
the Friendly Arm Inn, for example. One Magic Missile from him kills most
characters. To this day I find that battle random. That guy can still
get a lucky roll and wipe me out in an instant unless I choose to visit
the FAI later or time a shot from my Wand of Missiles perfectly to
interrupt his casting --twice. Later in the game my party is so powerful
they are like unto gods.
.

Really? He
always fell quickly in my playthroughs. Xzar's Larloch's minor drain & arrows/bullets from the rest of the party and he's dead in seconds.

Modifié par virumor, 13 mai 2010 - 07:39 .

[Seagloom]

Maybe it's because you have Xzar and Montaron along. I've never taken those two. At that point it's always just my character and Imoen. The only time I can drop him in seconds is if I'm playing a ranger or fighter built for archery.

[Ponce de Leon]

virumor wrote...

Kivan was so badass in this game. He always killed more than my fighters. I wish he & Viconia had more 'moments'.

I always kicked out Khalid & Jaheira for them. Couldn't stand that stuttering fool & the fake Slavic accent.

Ugh, the accent, true... one more point to hate that person... which I dare not name, for my big big hate... 
(side note : never got what Slavic accent should sound like... it's not like there is a specific one... well, at least not from the balkan region, as far as I know... /Slovene rant over)

[Zaxares]

Seagloom wrote...

That dialogue is in the original BG. It's part of the optional thief guild quests and I agree it *is* funny. I loved how he just accepted your character is a stray cat after you tell him so. It was one of those perfect facepalm moments.

Guy: Zzzzzz... Huh? Who's there?!
PC: Meow...
Guy: Oh. Stupid cat... Zzzzzz...

Guy: Hey, wait... I don't own a cat!
PC: I'm a stray. Go back to sleep.
Guy: Oh, okay, that makes sense. Zzzzz...

Guy: Hey! Cats can't talk!
PC: (I forget what your PC says at this point, but you basically have to attack the guy. What I don't get is why you couldn't say, "I'm a MAGICAL talking cat!")

Yeah, that was definitely one of my favourite RPG gaming moments.

[Seagloom]

I never had to attack the guy. After his "that makes sense" line I high tail out of there with the gem before he gets hostile. Thanks for the quotes. I never saw the last one before. The rest bring back memories.

[Zaxares]

Yeah, I already found the gem by that point too, but I decided to stick around just to see what else he says.



Plus, part of me also wanted to kill him and see what kind of loot he had. XD