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[Cloaking_Thane]

Nivenus wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Nivenus wrote...

People must hate reading because it's been thoroughly explained by now that 1.6 million is a good number - several times in fact.

If that was directed at me then it was misplaced... if not then w/e no harm no foul

I just think the game should have sold more based upon how good it is comparitively to other games on the market......

Wasn't directed at you specifically. Many others appear to have made the same leap.

It would be nice to hear ME2 sold like Halo or MW2, but frankly, I never expected that to happen. RPGs can sell well in NA, but they almost never top the list (I can't actually think of an instance but I hate to deal in absolutes).

Sure it was just my opinion/ wishful thinking.......It's still a great number probably somewhere in the region of $30 million profit I'd guess after everything is taken out...........

I own halo and fifa, but ME/ME2 are by far the best games I own based upon various factors and I'm a good gamer (good W/L in fifa, 45 in halo (havent played in 6 months probs), Insanity on ME/Me2)

It just baffles me at time some people wont even give different genres a chance (some friends of mine wont even play my copy lol)

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Ecael wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

My argument was that, if the sales numbers for both games are about equal, most sales will certainly be players who already played and enjoyed ME 1. In that case, the attempt to draw in many new players from the shooter and casual gamer crowd, would have failed. It would be wise for BioWare/EA to consider this possibility, and draw conclusions for ME 3. I only hope it's not the conclusion to shooterize it even more... I doubt that would increase sales.

As I discussed with Venkman earlier in the thread (DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!), there's also people buying Mass Effect 2 and then Mass Effect 1.

Despite that, we still don't know how much BioWare is making from the PC version of the game. Popular digital distributors like Steam and Direct2Drive don't like posting up their sales numbers.

lol

[nov_pl]

Ahhh ****... I thought that ME2 sold like over 6 milions of copys (i've saw it somwhere on this fourum), OFC 1,6 mln isn't bad but this game deserves better.

Modifié par nov_pl, 12 mai 2010 - 08:25 .

[Mykel54]

I think more people would buy ME2 if they had played ME1 before, because honestly, if you only play the second game you miss a lot of the good things story-related that the game have. If you discard that, then it is just another shooter/rpg with some cool extras like romantic interests. Perhaps selling a package of ME1+2 would be better to get people interested in the series.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

I hope it just barely limps past ME1s lifetime sales, or better yet just matches it.



I wasnt at all happy with ME2, and Im glad to see the talk and ridiculous "10/10s" is received arent yet being reflected in the sales, and it would take a miracle couple of million turnaround to do so at this rate.

[Ecael]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

I hope it just barely limps past ME1s lifetime sales, or better yet just matches it.

That's actually the best possible outcome in terms of the whole trilogy, as it suggests that everyone who bought ME2 either already had or bought ME1 afterward, and vice-versa. That means there's a lot of people who have bought both games and a lot of potential sales for Mass Effect 3.

I wasnt at all happy with ME2, and Im glad to see the talk and ridiculous "10/10s" is received arent yet being reflected in the sales, and it would take a miracle couple of million turnaround to do so at this rate.

As mentioned before, Mass Effect 2 is selling at a faster rate than Mass Effect 1 on the console. There aren't any numbers for PC sales because of the lack of sales press releases from third-party digital distributors.

Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age and Battlefield lifted Electronic Arts out of a three year slump (as in, EA had major financial problems during all of Mass Effect 2's development), so one can only be optimistic about what Mass Effect 3 has in store.

[Collider]

Your effort may be wasted Ecael...

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Ecael wrote...
As mentioned before, Mass Effect 2 is selling at a faster rate than Mass Effect 1 on the console. There aren't any numbers for PC sales because of the lack of sales press releases from third-party digital distributors.

'Is" is not the correct word to use here. Mass Effect 2 did, focusing on past tense here, did  have a stronger opening than ME 2, but the jury is still out as to whether it has sold more copies. The chart I provided, while only showing Xbox 360 copies, shows a very slow slowdown, not unlike ME's. I believe the end result is that the overall sales will be very close as ME 2 gets into the much later weeks. Even then as you say, PC sales (which is how I bought both games) have no data.

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 12 mai 2010 - 09:54 .

[Nivenus]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Ecael wrote...
As mentioned before, Mass Effect 2 is selling at a faster rate than Mass Effect 1 on the console. There aren't any numbers for PC sales because of the lack of sales press releases from third-party digital distributors.

'Is" is not the correct word to use here. Mass Effect 2 did, focusing on past tense here, did have a stronger opening than ME 2, but the jury is still out as to whether it has sold more copies. The chart I provided, while only showing Xbox 360 copies, shows a very slow slowdown, not unlike ME's. I believe the end result is that the overall sales will be very close as ME 2 gets into the much later weeks. Even then as you say, PC sales (which is how I bought both games) have no data.

"Is" is the correct word because, in the present, it is selling better.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Nivenus wrote...

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Ecael wrote...
As mentioned before, Mass Effect 2 is selling at a faster rate than Mass Effect 1 on the console. There aren't any numbers for PC sales because of the lack of sales press releases from third-party digital distributors.

'Is" is not the correct word to use here. Mass Effect 2 did, focusing on past tense here, did have a stronger opening than ME 2, but the jury is still out as to whether it has sold more copies. The chart I provided, while only showing Xbox 360 copies, shows a very slow slowdown, not unlike ME's. I believe the end result is that the overall sales will be very close as ME 2 gets into the much later weeks. Even then as you say, PC sales (which is how I bought both games) have no data.

"Is" is the correct word because, in the present, it is selling better.

Define your terms. Mass Effect is still being sold, ergo it 'is' selling better since it has sold more overall units.

If you mean that it is selling better since it reached x amount of units during y amount of time, then yes, it is "selling better" in that regard.

[Ecael]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Define your terms. Mass Effect is still being sold, ergo it 'is' selling better since it has sold more overall units.

If you mean that it is selling better since it reached x amount of units during y amount of time, then yes, it is "selling better" in that regard.

Mass Effect 1 (2007), total console sales as of 2009: 2.20 million
Mass Effect 2 (2010), total console sales as of 2009: 1.72 million
Mass Effect 3 (2012), total console sales as of 2009: 0.00 million

Mass Effect 2 is currently selling better than Mass Effect 3, therefore Mass Effect 3 is a disappointment.

I hope BioWare learns from their mistakes in Mass Effect IV through XIII, but it seems that Mass Effect 2 is selling better than all of those right now.

What a huge letdown by BioWare.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Ecael wrote...

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Define your terms. Mass Effect is still being sold, ergo it 'is' selling better since it has sold more overall units.

If you mean that it is selling better since it reached x amount of units during y amount of time, then yes, it is "selling better" in that regard.

Mass Effect 1 (2007), total console sales as of 2009: 2.20 million
Mass Effect 2 (2010), total console sales as of 2009: 1.72 million
Mass Effect 3 (2012), total console sales as of 2009: 0.00 million

Mass Effect 2 is currently selling better than Mass Effect 3, therefore Mass Effect 3 is a disappointment.

I hope BioWare learns from their mistakes in Mass Effect IV through XIII, but it seems that Mass Effect 2 is selling better than all of those right now.

What a huge letdown by BioWare.

I know you like to make posts in a humourous manner (which is probably why you appear to be popular around these forums, even noticeable on my part despite my three month hiatus) but what you have posted is nothing more than a straw man. My argument has been, and always will be, that ME 2 did not blow ME out of the water, nothing more, nothing less.

[Ecael]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

I know you like to make posts in a humourous manner (which is probably why you appear to be popular around these forums, even noticeable on my part despite my three month hiatus) but what you have posted is nothing more than a straw man. My argument has been, and always will be, that ME 2 did not blow ME out of the water, nothing more, nothing less.

Your argument is that Mass Effect is selling better than Mass Effect 2 on the console, which is not true.

You also need to post numbers for PC sales if you want to be able to say for sure that Mass Effect 2 didn't sell as much or outsell Mass Effect 1.

[Onyx Jaguar]

http://www.1up.com/d...ory?cId=3179268

EDIT:  It seems that Mass Effect 2 is far less popular in Europe

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 12 mai 2010 - 10:38 .

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Ecael wrote...

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

I know you like to make posts in a humourous manner (which is probably why you appear to be popular around these forums, even noticeable on my part despite my three month hiatus) but what you have posted is nothing more than a straw man. My argument has been, and always will be, that ME 2 did not blow ME out of the water, nothing more, nothing less.

Your argument is that Mass Effect is selling better than Mass Effect 2 on the console, which is not true.

You also need to post numbers for PC sales if you want to be able to say for sure that Mass Effect 2 didn't sell as much or outsell Mass Effect 1.

That's incorrect. I am not going to reiterate my argument, but you are more than welcome to revisit my first post to see what I actually said.

And yes, I do need PC data to see which game outsold the other. I can only go off of data that is readily available.

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 12 mai 2010 - 10:44 .

[Rixxencaxx]

Well, this is what happen when you strip rpg elements from an rpg. This is what happens when you "casualize" a game trying to sell it to a wider audience. The wider audience buy other games and fans stop buying the game casue they feel betrayed. This is an importan t lesson for bioware and they should think at what they are doing with dragon age 2......

[VampireCommando]

Ah yes Mass Effect selling 'badly'... we have dismissed this claim.

[JRCHOharry]

Oh the horror

[SleepyBird]

IoCaster wrote...

...They did a fairly strong marketing blitz with the TV ads that probably cost a good bit of $$. I'm sure they made a profit but those are not blockbuster sales for a game with the production values and quality of ME2.

I don't imagine that the budget for ME3 is going to exceed what was available for ME2. This would likely mean cameo roles and emails for the ME2 squad in ME3. It's a shame that they couldn't at least match the sales for DA:O. I guess the shooter crowd is more fickle than they expected or they overestimated the appeal of wacky sidekicks in skintight spandex. Even the Halo kiddies can recognize pandering when they're smacked in the face with it.

I'd kill to talk to someone in the EA marketing department.  Honestly, the television campaign for Mass Effect 2 was so unappealing to me it made me hesitate to buy the sequel to one of my all time favorite games.  My friends and I (please excuse my non politically correct term here) were referring to Jack as "the naked retard" based on the ads, even though we all grew to like her in the game itself.  Miranda seemed like a grossly pandering simplistic space babe.  Those television ads made Mass Effect look like a sexist, juvenile, fantasy wish-fulfillment dating sim.   Icky.

The online campaign was better, focusing more on gameplay - highlighting the different class powers and the new paragon/renegade interrupt system.  Unfortunately I think more people saw the television commercials, and they were just embarrassing.

[Ashaman X]

I don't know how much I can add to this discussion, but I will say this: let's see what the figures are by the end of the year. I originally got ME1 as a bargain bin game, as I wasn't sure of it, but boy was it worth it. That lead me to pre order the Collectors Edition of ME2, because I loved the game so much. I will pre order ME3 when it comes out. I recently bought DA and expansion, months after they were released.



Thing is, I'm a sucker for Bioware games. They grip me and refuse to let go. I would say that the ME and DA series has helped bring the magic of the studio to many new people, who will eventually want to go and explore the other games made by Bioware.



I also wonder how copies are accounted for in other parts of the world besides the US and Europe.

[STG]

SleepyBird wrote...
 Miranda seemed like a grossly pandering simplistic space babe.  Those television ads made Mass Effect look like a sexist, juvenile, fantasy wish-fulfillment dating sim.   Icky.

Sex sells, everyone knows that. Just one of the reasons why Miranda and Thane are on the cover, they were designed with romance in mind.

[UBER GEEKZILLA]

OMG quit calling mass effect 2 a flop..some games struggle to get even to 500k. mass effect 2 has done very well, it took the first mass effect like a year to sell that many copies. mass effect 2 will EASILY sell 3 million copies with pc and xbox sales combined.

[Rixxencaxx]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

OMG quit calling mass effect 2 a flop..some games struggle to get even to 500k. mass effect 2 has done very well, it took the first mass effect like a year to sell that many copies. mass effect 2 will EASILY sell 3 million copies with pc and xbox sales combined.

http://www.examiner....d-Mass-Effect-2
During their recent conference call, Electronic Arts reveals some
sales data to three of the biggest 2010 games.  According to the
publisher, Mass Effect 2 has sold 1.6 million units on the PC (including
digital downloads) and Xbox 360. Army of Two: The 40th Day was able to
sell through more than 1 million units across the PSP, Playstation 3 and
Xbox 360. Finally, Dante’s Inferno did “almost 1 million units” on the
PSP, Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. All the numbers above are through the
last fiscal quarter for Electronic Arts, which ended on March 31st.


why do you think that a corporation would talk to its investors only about console sales? do you think that EA don't know anything about a game global (pc and consoles) sales?

[Sereaph502]

So what are you guys trying to get at telling us it only sold 1.6 million copies instead of over 9MILLION!!!1!!!!!11!1!one?



That EA is going to decide "no Mass Effect 3 for u, not profitable"?

[Raizo]

I'm assuming that Battlefield Bad Company 2 is a multi format game ( PS3 and 360 ) and I know that the FIFA games appear on all formats so it's not really that big a surprise that they both outsold ME2. It probably did not help that the 360 is a hardcore gamers console and the ME series is officially branded as an rpg ( even though Bioware defently tried their best to dumb it down and remove as much rpg elements as possible ) which is a very niche genre.