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[tonnactus]

Burdokva wrote...


Still, it's a very good figure. Especially if it's only for the XBox 360. How much games sell today, aside from the overrated, teen-obsessing shooters ala "Call of Duty"?

Lets compare it with other rpgs.Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fable 2 sold 3 million(each game) on the Xbox 360 alone.

[Rixxencaxx]

Ecael wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

Just talking about FACTS
http://investor.ea.c...eleaseid=443674

Pretty sure that EA ceo knows a lot more than VG charts....

And where is the comparison of Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 in the same time-frame, accounting for the FACT that Dragon Age was permitted to be released on 3 consoles rather than 2?

just edited above....you have your answer...

]Still didn't answer my question - what were the sales of Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 within the same exact time-frame for a single console?

The lack of literacy and objectivity on this forum is absolutely amazing.
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ok...you didn't take a look at my edited post...so i cut and paste...
This is conference call date :EDMONTON, Canada, Feb 08, 2010 (BUSINESS
WIRE)
three months after dragon age was released (first days of
november) so we are comparing the two games on three month basis.
Obviiously
EA data were based on dragon age sales TILL 08.feb.2010

Really this discussion is over.....you are obviously an unpolite fanboy/girl.....(just talking about your jpegs...)
...facts will talk

ps...you are talking again about a single console...after i posted the link with the press release referring the 1,6 million number  to pc (and digital delivery) and xbox 360
i suspect that you can't read, understand and count...

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 15 juin 2010 - 04:00 .

[Jackal904]

Rixxencaxx wrote...

Well, this is what happen when you strip rpg elements from an rpg. This is what happens when you "casualize" a game trying to sell it to a wider audience. The wider audience buy other games and fans stop buying the game casue they feel betrayed. This is an importan t lesson for bioware and they should think at what they are doing with dragon age 2......

That is terrible logic. And congrats on reviving an old thread.

[InvaderErl]

tonnactus wrote...

Burdokva wrote...


Still, it's a very good figure. Especially if it's only for the XBox 360. How much games sell today, aside from the overrated, teen-obsessing shooters ala "Call of Duty"?

Lets compare it with other rpgs.Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fable 2 sold 3 million(each game) on the Xbox 360 alone.

Iron Man 2 made 300 million in the US. The Dark Knight made over 500 million.

I guess that means Iron Man 2 is an utter failure.

[kraidy1117]

Only reason why ME has sold over 2 mil is because it has been out longer, the point that ME2 sold better then ME at launch and is still selling better alot. Case closed. I swear why can't we all just get along, both games where fantastic and which one is better is personal taste.

[badkenbad]

Rixxencaxx wrote...
ok...you didn't take a look at my edited post...so i cut and paste...
This is conference call date :EDMONTON, Canada, Feb 08, 2010 (BUSINESS
WIRE)
three months after dragon age was released (first days of
november) so we are comparing the two games on three month basis.
Obviiously
EA data were based on dragon age sales TILL 08.feb.2010

Really this discussion is over.....you are obviously an unpolite fanboy/girl.....(just talking about your jpegs...)
...facts will talk

ps...you are talking again about a single console...after i posted the link with the press release referring the 1,6 million number  to pc (and digital delivery) and xbox 360
i suspect that you can't read, understand and count...

When all else fails, start flinging insults (that goes for both of you )

The original press release you linked from EA talks about Dragon Age SELLING IN 3.2 million units. Triple platinum sell-in.

EA PR wrote...
EDMONTON, Canada, Feb 08, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Leading video game developer BioWare™, a division of Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS), announced today that Dragon Age™: Origins has sold-in over 3.2 million* units worldwide.

In case you aren't familiar with the term, "sell-in" means units shipped to retailers (and serial number blocks assigned to digital retailers). "Sell-through" refers to units that are actually sold to customers. In the EA conference call, the numbers they were talking about for Mass Effect 2 were SELL THROUGH.

Next time you want to make a point, please make sure you're comparing apples and apples.

Modifié par badkenbad, 13 juin 2010 - 10:53 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

We still having this exact same argument from over a month and a half ago?



Look, Red Dead Redemption shipped the same amount of copies. The ceiling for both games is very high. Now I'm going to imagine GTA4 fanboys lashing out against RDR for only selling a little bit (lets face it, regardless it will sell a fraction of GTA4). But the ceiling is still there, most of it would be met less your company will rake in a fairly good sized loss. Which neither will.

[Onyx Jaguar]

InvaderErl wrote...

harry dread wrote...

let me see if i get this right, it only sold 1,600,000 right? at about £25 a pop (or $25 for u yanks) that makes a turnover of £$40,000,000? and thats bad?

i'm defanatly in the wrong job.

Definitely.

Really, I see this "doom and gloom" behavior all too often on the internet when something doesn't OMG smash all records ever before held they declare its time to:




EDIT:

Its actually $60 for us not $25.

No he's right, all us damn yanks purchase our goods from the mafia.

[Ecael]

Rixxencaxx

Really this discussion is over.....you are obviously an unpolite fanboy/girl.....(just talking about your jpegs...)
...facts will talk

Because whining about one BioWare game while comparing it to another BioWare game that you like on a BioWare fan forum does not make you a fanboy/fangirl, right?



After I played Mass Effect 1, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/Microsoft of catering to the "console shooter" crowd.

After I played Mass Effect 2, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/EA of catering to the "console shooter" crowd.

After I played Dragon Age, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/EA of catering to the "console RPG" crowd.

Clearly, I'm just a blinded follower if I don't nag other people about how much I dislike a game while using spin tactics to convince BioWare to listen to my every complaint (guess what, it doesn't work).

People like you are the reason why BioWare will only listen to professional critics for genuine complaints.

badkenbad wrote...

In case you aren't familiar with the term, "sell-in" means units shipped to retailers (and serial number blocks assigned to digital retailers). "Sell-through" refers to units that are actually sold to customers. In the EA conference call, the numbers they were talking about for Mass Effect 2 were SELL THROUGH.

Next time you want to make a point, please make sure you're comparing apples and apples.

As if he'd even bother to check that he's making the right comparison.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

harry dread wrote...
let me see if i get this right, it only sold 1,600,000 right? at about £25 a pop (or $25 for u yanks) that makes a turnover of £$40,000,000? and thats bad?
i'm defanatly in the wrong job.

Definitely.
EDIT:
Its actually $60 for us not $25.

No he's right, all us damn yanks purchase our goods from the mafia.

$100.00 Australian Dollars, what do we have then mafia plus double mafia?
(that's the price of ME2 off the retail shelf at New Release time)

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 14 juin 2010 - 01:55 .

[Jayross]

Bad Company 2 has given me 200 hours of play-time. I wouldn't have the patience to invest all that time into ME2, to be honest.

[Tooneyman]

This one had to whine about it because of the inventory. This one liked the first game so much. This one loved the second game, but had to give contructive criticism. I'm a blind fanboy as well and this one is still here.

[Arijharn]

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

harry dread wrote...
let me see if i get this right, it only sold 1,600,000 right? at about £25 a pop (or $25 for u yanks) that makes a turnover of £$40,000,000? and thats bad?
i'm defanatly in the wrong job.

Definitely.
EDIT:
Its actually $60 for us not $25.

No he's right, all us damn yanks purchase our goods from the mafia.

$100.00 Australian Dollars, what do we have then mafia plus double mafia?
(that's the price of ME2 off the retail shelf at New Release time)

Wait, wasn't it $109.95? Damn GAME. Actually, that's probably being disingenious, because our dollar is floated I think it's safe to assume that it's the publishers that rip us off. On the plus side when our dollar is craptastic (low $1AUD = <.78c US for example) then it's not too painful, but when we were like .97c parity during the height of the GFC it was an absolute rort.

[borelocin]

Arijharn wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

harry dread wrote...
let me see if i get this right, it only sold 1,600,000 right? at about £25 a pop (or $25 for u yanks) that makes a turnover of £$40,000,000? and thats bad?
i'm defanatly in the wrong job.

Definitely.
EDIT:
Its actually $60 for us not $25.

No he's right, all us damn yanks purchase our goods from the mafia.

$100.00 Australian Dollars, what do we have then mafia plus double mafia?
(that's the price of ME2 off the retail shelf at New Release time)

Wait, wasn't it $109.95? Damn GAME. Actually, that's probably being disingenious, because our dollar is floated I think it's safe to assume that it's the publishers that rip us off. On the plus side when our dollar is craptastic (low $1AUD = <.78c US for example) then it's not too painful, but when we were like .97c parity during the height of the GFC it was an absolute rort.

To be honest mate I waited 3 months then ebayed ME2 for $40AUD including postage. 

I agree we were being shafted when games were still being marked up 30% over the USD prices when our dollar was level pegging - which is why I imported everything during that period  Now our dollar is in the toilet again I am starting to pick things up locally when they are a good buy.

[snfonseka]

According 2 my thoughts I think RPGs are having a slow selling rate but they will remain in the market longer than any FPS. So the income of a RPG is somewhat "long term-slow" rather than "short term-fast".



I believe that there are a lot of people who still going through their first play-through in ME1.

[Kalfear]

snfonseka wrote...

According 2 my thoughts I think RPGs are having a slow selling rate but they will remain in the market longer than any FPS. So the income of a RPG is somewhat "long term-slow" rather than "short term-fast".

I believe that there are a lot of people who still going through their first play-through in ME1.

Id be really surprised if many folks were buying ME1 or 2 now.

I gotta admit, ME1 had a little advantage that it was really the only worth while RPG out at its time!
Far as ME2 goes, it hasnt gotten the good RP press first off (other then pre release) and there are games out or coming out that look as good or better RP and shooter wise!

So I dont see ME1 or 2 sales figures going up more then they at already because of those facts.

So in the end, Bioware didnt draw in any new fans, they just traded some RPG fans that they neglected for shooter fans in a pretty much even trade off!

Sounds to me like they should have stayed RPG and kept their initial base of fans as I cant help wondering how many disappointed with ME2 RPG fans dont buy ME3.

Its a never ending arguement though. Bioware could go bankrupt and the pro ME2 shooter crowd would still claim its more popular and better received then ME1. Facts be damned.

All I know is im still on fence (and will remain there till release day) on buying ME3 because of how disappointing ME2 was for me RPG wise (I know im not alone) so im now eagerly awaiting Deus Ex3 as that looks freaking amazing and im hoping they dont chep out on the RPG elements! Many are already playing AP and giving it decent reveiws as a RPG. Dragon Age 2 should come out before ME3.

The RPG market seems as strong as always and stronger in some ways so no need to accept half way products again like ME2. Have your shooter mechanics but deliver the RPG goodness as well. It doesnt have to be one or the other!

[DuffyMJ]

EA saves buttloads of money on ME2 by not having to host servers or online stats or any of that multiplayer related garbage

[CroGamer002]

snfonseka wrote...

According 2 my thoughts I think RPGs are having a slow selling rate but they will remain in the market longer than any FPS. So the income of a RPG is somewhat "long term-slow" rather than "short term-fast".

I believe that there are a lot of people who still going through their first play-through in ME1.

Yeah, I started to play ME1 just 2 months ago( do to crappy old PC) then week later ME2.
Today I play those 2 games since I don't have conection to characters that aren't mine in ME2 and epic story.

[Chuvvy]

XX55XX wrote...

I don't understand how much 1.6 million is.

Fixed it for you op.

[snfonseka]

May be it will be a good idea for having "co-op" mod for ME3 to play online.

[Foolsfolly]

Ecael wrote...

Rixxencaxx

Really this discussion is over.....you are obviously an unpolite fanboy/girl.....(just talking about your jpegs...)
...facts will talk

Because whining about one BioWare game while comparing it to another BioWare game that you like on a BioWare fan forum does not make you a fanboy/fangirl, right?



After I played Mass Effect 1, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/Microsoft of catering to the "console shooter" crowd.

After I played Mass Effect 2, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/EA of catering to the "console shooter" crowd.

After I played Dragon Age, I didn't log onto the BioWare forums to whine about it and accuse BioWare/EA of catering to the "console RPG" crowd.

Clearly, I'm just a blinded follower if I don't nag other people about how much I dislike a game while using spin tactics to convince BioWare to listen to my every complaint (guess what, it doesn't work).

People like you are the reason why BioWare will only listen to professional critics for genuine complaints.

badkenbad wrote...

In case you aren't familiar with the term, "sell-in" means units shipped to retailers (and serial number blocks assigned to digital retailers). "Sell-through" refers to units that are actually sold to customers. In the EA conference call, the numbers they were talking about for Mass Effect 2 were SELL THROUGH.

Next time you want to make a point, please make sure you're comparing apples and apples.

As if he'd even bother to check that he's making the right comparison.

I agree with the bolded segment. There are a few times when I think, "Man I hope BioWare read this guy's post/thread" and then think of all the mindless, stupid hate and misaimed flak and all the just negative crap because a certain segement wasn't exactly to one poster's whim and remember BioWare'd be crazy to listen to the fans at this point.

Also stop worrying about numbers, people. There'll be a ME3 they're making a movie for crap's sake.

[MotoSkunkX]

A cursory google search reveals that Mass Effect 2 sold 500,000 copies on the first day and over 2 million copies in the first week alone(not SHIPPED, SOLD).



The original Mass Effect sold 2.1 million copies on Xbox 360 in total and 400,000 in week one



Why are people so stupid? Also -

http://news.bigdownl...steams-sales-l/

[Gravity Bun]

I don't think Mass Effect appeals to "casual" gamers, especially the kind who play soccer games, etc. Then you've a whole group of folks who hate science fiction, and a hell of a lot of people who aren't even aware of the franchise.

[Steingrimur Steingrimsson]

1,6 million is even low by Bioware standards... I hate this world...