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[trobbins777]

Wicked 702 wrote...

..................simply amazing.
For something to be free, it must be so for ALL users. If it came in the box then it's something included as part of the purchase price. Hence, you bought it and it's not free.

At this point i feel like i'm arguing that the chicken came first and not the egg.

"You sir are mad!! chickens hatch from eggs.  Eggs have existed before chickens!"

"You belong in a asylum!! You forget that eggs are laid by chickens!!"

"Which hatch from eggs!!"

"Which are concieved by chickens!"
(continues for the rest of time)

[Darth Drago]

Wicked 702 wrote...

..................simply amazing.
For something to be free, it must be so for ALL users. If it came in the box then it's something included as part of the purchase price. Hence, you bought it and it's not free.

Wicked 702 wrote...

Ask yourself this question then: Knowing that a brand new copy comes with a code for this "stuff", would you have raised hell if your copy was missing the code? Would you have gone back to the store or called EA/BW support to get a new one? If you said yes then the code is clearly part of the package you bought and is not some extra "free" thing.

-Totally agree. If someone bought a new copy of ME2 and it happened that it didn’t come with the Cerberus Network Card there would be hell to pay I’m sure from that buyer.

To be considered as free content, it has to be free to everyone not part of an exclusive service.

Everything available by the Cerberus Network is exclusive content only to those with the card. None of that content to date is worth the $15 cost that you would have to pay to get the Cerberus Network anyways.


Back to the topic:

I used to love BioWare and all their games. Not so much anymore with what they did to make ME2 with all the severe changes to make nothing more than an average shooter. It feels like it wasn’t even made by the same company that made ME1.



“Crazy? I was crazy once. They put me in a room with no windows. It drove me nuts. Nuts? I like nuts! Except not the sunflower kind. They drive me crazy. Crazy?”

Modifié par Darth Drago, 13 mai 2010 - 03:44 .

[SP One Nineteen]

I bought it used and am not pleased with the extra money im gonna have to pay. But yes, kudos to bw *grumbles*

[eternalnightmare13]

Wow, you guys just LOVE to beat the dead horse around here....

[FlyingWalrus]

This thread has been taken over by the whiners. And yet it doesn't change the truth of the title.

One of the best, at least.

[PARAGON87]

big420mac wrote...

Read the title. I don't know how much appreciation they have received for all the free DLC, but they deserve every bit of it and more. I borrowed this game to a friend and after finally receiving it, I see "New Content Available" on the menu. I press it and behold a slew of free DLC. The DLC I do have to pay for is incredibly cheap. That is just awesome. Not only do you guys make awesome games but you also support them after launch. Bioware is simply the best.

They are awesome.

Though many in the forums here have a "old married couple" relationship with this company.

[nikki191]

Vena_86 wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Normandy Crash Site
Zaheed: Prince of Revenge
Cerberus Assault Armor/Shotgun
Firewalker Pack

Yes, I expected that answer. None of these DLCs is free. If you buy the game second-hand, you have to pay for access to the Cerberus network. But if you bought the game new, you also paid for access to the Cerberus network. It was part of your purchase, it was not a gift.

^

Also for some comparison:
The Witcher recieved a massive free >1GB update that added new animations, new better voice acting, new adventures/quests, editor, the sountrack etc I believe roughly a year after the games release.
This was never planned or announced before the initial release of the game. It was done afterwards as a thanks to the fans and supporters.
THAT is free DLC.

another comparison thats for a non rpg is "ship simulator 2008", it  has a few paid dlc but the company releases free DLC every single week.

[kraze07]

Bioware is the best and some of the DLC is in fact FREE. End of story.

Modifié par kraze07, 13 mai 2010 - 06:40 .

[mi55ter]

adriano_c wrote...

Nope, bought it new. Cerberus Network's "value" is simply factored into the retail price.

I haven't noticed that it costs more new than other games, with less content.

[Der Kirk]

If it costs the same as any oher xbox game, but it comes with the network, it is technically free since you are paying no extra since the game is worth $60.00. If you buy it used though, you lose the network, which makes the value of the used game go down further, so you should be able to get it cheaper... right? Also, not having the DLC probably isnt that big of a deal to some who buy used. People that really want to play a game usually buy new. I buy new unless a game seems really "meh".

[cruc1al]

kraze07 wrote...

Bioware is the best and some of the DLC is in fact FREE. End of story.

No, all of the DLC is free, and the game itself is free too. All you have to do is pay. Right?

Modifié par cruc1al, 13 mai 2010 - 10:31 .

[cruc1al]

mi55ter wrote...

adriano_c wrote...

Nope, bought it new. Cerberus Network's "value" is simply factored into the retail price.

I haven't noticed that it costs more new than other games, with less content.

Why should games be priced according to how much content they have? Cerberus content is simply content you've paid for by buying the game new. If it was truly free, you should be able to download it whether you own the game or not.

[2pac Shakur]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

I still don't get how I paid for any DLC? I paid the same amount for my copy of Mass Effect 2 as I did for my copy of Crysis as I did for my copy of Bioshock. Other than paying for the internet connection for the DLC I didn't pay anything for Zaeed, or the Normandy crash pack.

Edit: The hydro bill fee analogy is flawed, I'm not paying Bioware a monthly sum to have access to this DLC.

then check out my other analogy

healthcare in Canada is free because I dont have to pay for it!

[2pac Shakur]

kraze07 wrote...

Bioware is the best and some of the DLC is in fact FREE. End of story.

lets take an example. I pay for a 1 week cruise. The pool and buffet are FREE TO USE OMFGZ

FREE

[FlyingWalrus]

cruc1al wrote...

kraze07 wrote...

Bioware is the best and some of the DLC is in fact FREE. End of story.

No, all of the DLC is free, and the game itself is free too. All you have to do is pay. Right?

If we use your logic, there's no such thing as free DLC because you have to pay for your computer or console, and Internet connection to get to it. <_<

[cruc1al]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

kraze07 wrote...

Bioware is the best and some of the DLC is in fact FREE. End of story.

No, all of the DLC is free, and the game itself is free too. All you have to do is pay. Right?

If we use your logic, there's no such thing as free DLC because you have to pay for your computer or console, and Internet connection to get to it. <_<

Lol. No. Do you buy your computers from Bioware?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Since you are forced to have the CN card when you buy a new copy of Mass Effect it is more like a forced edition on a car. Sunroof? Not free included.

[Der Kirk]

This has become less of a bioware rules thread, and more of a QQ CN thread. Shall we get back on topic?



On Topic: Ever since I played Kotor I've gone out of may way to get anything Bioware, because they are that awesome. I dont even bother reading reviews of BIoware games before I buy, even though that is usually something I do.

[FFTARoxorz05]

They can't go back and unmake Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, so correct.

[Stanley Woo]

scyphozoa wrote...
to the op, it is very nice to see someone genuinely express their thanks and gratitude for bioware.

Indeed it is. OP, thanks for the kind words.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

The kind words weren't directed at volus though! Go back in your corner Stanley, go back in your corner!

[MrNose]

I have to sign on to this. It's been ages since I PC-gamed, but getting back into things now that I've got a good rig... The BioWare games have been a fantastic experience.



Do I criticize things that BioWare does sometimes? Sure do. But it's criticism that's born out of appreciation for a company that I truly think has the potential to go down in the history books as a seminal developer in the creation of what is still a relatively young medium, and I'd really like to see it succeed in that way.



Also... Canadian, which makes me proud. And I'm originally from Alberta, so that's cool too.

[SithLordExarKun]

bjdbwea wrote...

No free DLC has been released for ME 2. Fact.

More BAWWWWIIIING from some one like you.

[Zinoviy]

Should get used to it. There are people here who are clearly here just to **** and moan. If you actually correct them or point out how ridiculous they are, they use projection to make you seem like the bully. It's quite an interesting phenomenon.