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[darknoon5]

Barquiel wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Saying ME1 is better then ME2 is downright wrong.

nonsense... how is a personal preference wrong?

The same away a belief is wrong.

[MrNose]

Mooner911 wrote...

It's impossible to know any real details of this upcoming mission but from OP's post it certainly sounds like a simple shooter DLC. Skipping thru all the fan's posts here and everywhere else across the forum, it seems obvious to me that the ME shooter side of the game has been thoroughly milked. On the other hand, fans unanimously and continually keep begging BW for more plot.
We're in a limbo period while we endure the long wait for ME3. A shooter DLC will only allow us to spin our wheels in the meantime.
Using Dragon Age as a learning tool for BW, 'Awakenings' (plot driven) was a win, while 'RTO' (plotless) was a fail. I sure hope BW hasn't fallen asleep in class while the 'Overlord' lesson is covered.

Plot requires voice acting, which is difficult.  Furthermore, using Awakenings as an example of a "win" is sort of subjective.  Lots of people like it as a standalone story, but just as many were frustrated by the sudden disappearance of their entire case of characters save a Dwarf.  It looks like BioWare is attempting to make this DLC pack a plot-based story, but are largely making it a self-contained plot.

I'm excited, personally.

[cerberus1701]

morrie23 wrote...

I must say that I have high hopes for this DLC, sounds like it could be entertaining.

However, I would like to know if many of us are wasting our time hoping for Liara/Shadow Broker DLC, just a little hint BioWare, is that too much to want?

It absolutely is too much to want.

Because if for some reason it can't be done they'd have to close the board for all the outrage that would ensue.

Far better for everyone involved (including you) for BW to say nothing.

[Hadark]

Gravity Geek wrote...

Sorry if this is a stupid question or if it has already been answered but where did it say or show in the screenshots that you get to use the hammerhead?

 Here you go    http://www.eurogamer...c-has-ai-baddie

[cynicalmicahel]

OK, so I got that it will take approximately two hours to complete with two new achievements. What else is it going to give us in game? Not that I dislike ME or ME2 in any way; I am just beginning to get a little bummed out with the dissappointment.

Also, is this a mission or the full-fledged "expansion" that we keep rumbling about?

[mosor]

cynicalmicahel wrote...

OK, so I got that it will take approximately two hours to complete with two new achievements. What else is it going to give us in game? Not that I dislike ME or ME2 in any way; I am just beginning to get a little bummed out with the dissappointment.
Also, is this a mission or the full-fledged "expansion" that we keep rumbling about?

No, it's a 7 dollar DLC. An expansion will set you back 30 or 40 dollars.

[Hadark]

cynicalmicahel wrote...

OK, so I got that it will take approximately two hours to complete with two new achievements. What else is it going to give us in game? Not that I dislike ME or ME2 in any way; I am just beginning to get a little bummed out with the dissappointment.
Also, is this a mission or the full-fledged "expansion" that we keep rumbling about?

I agree completely,  We'll keep asking questions to their "half" answers. and this will probably continue until a day or two before it is released

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

If that supposed Liara themed expansion actually happens, E3 would be the perfect place to unveil it. I'm betting a bag of cookies that it happens.



Either way, this DLC sounds fun enough in the mean time.

[JamieCOTC]

Both games have their pros and cons.  ME2 has far better gameplay, better graphics, better voice acting and more (but not necessarily better) character development for squadmates.  ME has a better story, better character development for Shepard, and an epic ending. The side missions of both games also have their pros and cons.  ME2 has a better variety of locales and missions, graphics and gameplay.  ME has actual dialogue in the side quests, conclusions that matter and Lance Henrickson.  For me, ME1 wins the side quest war on that last bit alone. 

[JamieCOTC]

What is this expansion I keep hearing about? I thought BW specifically said that there would be NO expansion for ME2. Is there a link or some place in the forum that specifies BW has changed their minds? Thanks.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

JamieCOTC wrote...

What is this expansion I keep hearing about? I thought BW specifically said that there would be NO expansion for ME2. Is there a link or some place in the forum that specifies BW has changed their minds? Thanks.

Could play the counter argument to that and state where is a link or forum where they specified there would be NO expansion for ME2.

As for one to state that there could potentially be stuff going up to the size of an expansion pack

There is this article

Amazing what you can find when you type 'Mass Effect 2 expansion' into google

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

No, it's just speculation. People found sound files spoken by Liara in ME2 that are never heard in the game. It mentions the Shadow Broker specifically. However, this sound files thing also happened with Zaeed and Kasumi - everyone knows how that turned out.



Who knows if it'll happen or not. Personally though, I very much hope it does.

[jlb524]

There might be an expansion. Or not...it's all hype now.

[Fingolfin09]

i dont think that an expansion would be good. dlc items and quests sure but not an expansion i think that we should all just wait for ME3.

[darknoon5]

Fingolfin09 wrote...

i dont think that an expansion would be good. dlc items and quests sure but not an expansion i think that we should all just wait for ME3.

I see what you mean, but I'd rather they work on an expansion pack instead of this micro stuff to fill the gap until then. And ME3 is, from what I've heard anyway, not really making any engine changes from ME2, so it'll take less time to make.

[Ecael]

Barquiel wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...
Saying ME1 is better then ME2 is downright wrong.

nonsense... how is a personal preference wrong?

It's not that it's wrong, but the approach to telling people (and BioWare) one's preference is.

Most of the same team worked on both games, and what most fans (and critics) would say about preferring ME2 to ME1 is:



Of course, some people will then label her/him as a blind fan, and those who prefer ME1 to ME2 would say:



One is a compliment for improving the game, the other is an insult for downgrading it. One will criticize the game and/or its characters while the other will criticize its fans and/or the employees who made it.

You'll notice that people who defend ME2 in comparison to ME1 can't and won't call the other side fanboys/fangirls of Mass Effect or BioWare, because they're both Mass Effect games made by BioWare. Thus, it's extremely ironic to accuse someone of this on a BioWare forum, especially if you've posted there for years.

Honestly, I bet some people would go as far as saying the Mass Effect 2 logo sucks compared to Mass Effect 1 and anyone who disagrees is a blinded BioWare fan:

Modifié par Ecael, 14 mai 2010 - 05:32 .

[darknoon5]

Ecael, I love you

[AwesomestMatt]

Ecael wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...
Saying ME1 is better then ME2 is downright wrong.

nonsense... how is a personal preference wrong?

It's not that it's wrong, but the approach to telling people (and BioWare) one's preference is.

Most of the same team worked on both games, and what most fans (and critics) would say about preferring ME2 to ME1 is:



Of course, some people will then label her/him as a blind fan, and those who prefer ME1 to ME2 would say:



One is a compliment for improving the game, the other is an insult for downgrading it. One will criticize the game and/or its characters while the other will criticize its fans and/or the employees who made it.

You'll notice that people who defend ME2 in comparison to ME1 can't and won't call the other side fanboys/fangirls of Mass Effect or BioWare, because they're both Mass Effect games made by BioWare. Thus, it's extremely ironic to accuse someone of this on a BioWare forum, especially if you've posted there for years.

Honestly, I bet some people would go as far as saying the Mass Effect 2 logo sucks compared to Mass Effect 1 and anyone who disagrees is a blinded BioWare fan.

Very well explained Ecael; logical and to the point, I like it.  However, by commenting on what you've said the 'your not a true fan because                   '   will most likely start within the next few posts. 

[Ecael]

darknoon5 wrote...

Ecael, I love you

AwesomestMatt wrote...

Very well explained Ecael; logical and to the point, I like it.  However, by commenting on what you've said the 'your not a true fan because                   '   will most likely start within the next few posts. 

Or you'll probably be accused of being a BioWare/Mass Effect 2/Ecael fanboy.

[jlb524]

They undeniably changed the game and some do not like the direction BW is heading with the ME series, and others do. I do not see why expressing a dissatisfaction with it offends some people so much.

[lordnyx1]

Certainly sounds like an interesting piece of dlc and story based dlc are way better than simple item drops anyway..

[Barquiel]

Ecael wrote...

You'll notice that people who defend ME2 in comparison to ME1 can't and won't call the other side fanboys/fangirls of Mass Effect or BioWare, because they're both Mass Effect games made by BioWare. Thus, it's extremely ironic to accuse someone of this on a BioWare forum, especially if you've posted there for years.

That wasn't my point, I think.

Let's say someone prefers ME1, because...
- a lack of "RPG elements" in ME2 (exploration, inventory)
- his/her favorite character gets assassinated (not Nassana)
- a better story in ME1
- better side missions in ME1
etc.
It's 2 and 3 for me and I was just surprised that I am "wrong".

I don't know what the fanboy discussion has to do with it. ME2 isn't exactly Dink's favorite Bioware game, I think everyone here knows it^_^
He's one side of the spectrum, "darknoon" and "Sir Ulrich"  (and his choice of words wasn't better) the other side.

Modifié par Barquiel, 14 mai 2010 - 06:18 .

[jlb524]

ME2 and ME1 have many differences, besides the role of a certain blue squad mate. However, preferring ME2 to ME1 seems to make you a loyal BW and ME fan. Preferring ME1 to ME2 seems to make you a butthurt whiner who's just upset Liara isn't in the game.



Makes tons of sense.

[Ecael]

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Modifié par Ecael, 14 mai 2010 - 06:46 .