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[Mystranna Kelteel]

Ecael wrote...

-Try going through Mass Effect 1 without attacking anyone.

-Loading screens are not realistic or contribute to "immersion", regardless of the game. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

-So you're saying Mass Effect 2 is on rails (as if Mass Effect 1 wasn't linear?) and then saying that it was disjointed, sloppy and jarring?

- I never said ME1 didn't have shooting. But ME1 was not a shooter the way ME2 is a shooter.

- ME1 had fewer loading screens. In ME1 the elevators masked the loading screens. You could travel seamlessly with the only difference being that you had to wait at times for the elevator to reach it's destination. In ME2 all you do is warp. As a result all the areas are much smaller and feel much more jarring. Take Thane's loyalty mission. You warp from C-Sec to the catwalks over some district. I have no idea where I am or how I got there. And that's because ME2 is in love with its on-rail missions. You start a mission, warp to it, do it, warp back. Sometimes the loading screens will give you an idea of where you're going, but usually it's just useless crap. Saps immersion.

- Mass Effect 1 was much less linear, as I've pointed out many, many times now. In ME1 I could go to Therum and get Liara, then go to Noveria and get a garage pass, then go to Feros and get access to the sky-way, then go to a UNC planet and fight a thresher maw, then go to another planet and do a quest, then go back to the thresher maw planet and do that planet's quest, then go back to Feros and finish it, then finish Virmire, then go back and finish Noveria.
Why would I do that? Maybe I wouldn't. Point is: I could. Could I do that in ME2? Nope. If I start a mission in ME2 I'm forced to do it, and it ends up feeling much shorter and more disjointed because I'm warping all over the place. In ME1 you travel pretty much seamlessly and you ahve control over it. You go from Port Hanshan to the MAKO, where you drive to Peak 15. It's all very seamless. In ME2 I go from the docking bay on Ilium to some random warp chick who "drives me" somewhere off screen, and then I warp up through some elevators (which isn't too bad because they're elevators), and then once I recruit Thane I've magically gone from Nassana's office to the Normandy. Um, okay... Yeah, that's JARRING.

You say that as if the only thing that can be done on this forum is complain. Trust me, people can do a lot more than that.

Yeah, some people mindlessly kiss BioWare's butt. (not saying you specifically do) Other people may give actual criticism, but as soon as someone criticizes in a negative tone they are branded "trolls".

In that case, since the games are that much similar (and the team is the same), you're not biased - you're just overly critical of anything novel. You could become a game critic, but then you'd be disagreeing with practically everyone who's rated this game higher than Mass Effect 1.

And no, those reasons for hostiles are not better. Especially when both games have the combat lines repeated over and over again ("I WILL DESTROY YOU!" to "LET'S DO THIS, ECLIPSE!").

I don't think I'm overly critical. I'm merely pointing out the specific
things that bug me. In general I'd give ME1 a 9 and Give ME2 a 7.8.

And this has nothing to do with the enemy quotes. They're there for "flavor", and are poorly executed in both games.

That doesn't eliminate the fact that there are LOADING SCREENS in both games to make up for lack of cutscenes or traveling. Even the Mass Effect 2 LOADING SCREENS showed you how the Hammerhead or Shuttle got to the Normandy, while Mass Effect 1 did no such thing.

I've tackled this already in my above paragraph.

No, they're very much similar. And the same team is going to make Mass Effect 3 (targeted for the XBox 360 and its control system), so expect the next game to be a tad more like Mass Effect 2, if there are any differences worth pointing out.

I hope ME3 is a happy balance between ME1 and ME2. I'm hoping this will be like the Xenosaga trilogy where the first is good, the second is a departure, and the third fixes the mistakes of both into a happy compromise.

And seriously, enough with all the pictures. All you're doing is spamming the same crap as if it's taken on new meaning.

[Clover Rider]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Ecael wrote...
*Desperate gibberings of the Bioware-Defence-Force*

Im sorry about the pic spam comment, I imagine it cut deep.

Unlike your fabricated suggestion that Im a "pestilence" on these boards (I hardly frequent it anymore, and even then its the Liara thread, very rarely), I noticed you pic spam an awful lot.

Maybe you get a kick out of posting your little image based witticisms. I didnt mean to knock it. Clearly you put some time and effort into making these elaborate little picture based jibes.

I think Mass Effect 2 was a crushing disappointment, and a game that really sucked quite badly, and that this DLC doesnt change that. Shock horror, I did it again.

The fact that criticising ME2 on these boards always leads to a bunch of angry ME2 fanboys trying to defend it (by bashing ME1 no less) is honestly extremely telling.

LOL what a joke of a life you are 

[fortunesque]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...


I think Mass Effect 2 was a crushing disappointment, and a game that really sucked quite badly, and that this DLC doesnt change that. Shock horror, I did it again.

The fact that criticising ME2 on these boards always leads to a bunch of angry ME2 fanboys trying to defend it (by bashing ME1 no less) is honestly extremely telling.

Shh. Dink... you're not allowed to dislike ME2. Come on. Be real here.

We're not allowed to be disappointed and we're certainly not allowed to voice that opinion.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

I must retreat before fecael matter hammers me with another crushing delivery of Vorcha based pic spam. Or heaven forbid, the dreaded QUOTE MINING!



Flee! Flee!



*flees*

[Ecael]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Ecael wrote...
*Desperate gibberings of the Bioware-Defence-Force*

Im sorry about the pic spam comment, I imagine it cut deep.

Unlike your fabricated suggestion that Im a "pestilence" on these boards (I hardly frequent it anymore, and even then its the Liara thread, very rarely), I noticed you pic spam an awful lot.

Meforums.bioware.com:

Dinkamus_Littlelog: Joined 18 Nov 2008

Social.bioware.com:

Ecael: Joined 12 Dec 2009

You've been on the BioWare forums for over a year now, only to turn sour after the release of Mass Effect 2. And before you do any searching yourself, this is the only forum I use this name on (I typically steal gender-neutral user names from other game forums if I like them)

Maybe you get a kick out of posting your little image based witticisms. I didnt mean to knock it. Clearly you put some time and effort into making these elaborate little picture based jibes.

And you put a lot of time and effort into posting on a forum solely to bash a game unfairly. Like I said, you've been posting for more than a year. We're all wasting time here, but at least I try to add some humor with it and not cynicism toward the forum or BioWare.

I think Mass Effect 2 was a crushing disappointment, and a game that really sucked quite badly, and that this DLC doesnt change that. Shock horror, I did it again.

Then explain why BioWare would make that kind of disappointing change from ME1 to ME2 without using the words "fanboy", "fangirl", "sucks", "greed".

Unless you CAN explain why they made this change without attacking or insulting ANYONE on the forum or ANYONE who worked on this game, you will continue to be absolutely useless to this forum.

The fact that criticising ME2 on these boards always leads to a bunch of angry ME2 fanboys trying to defend it (by bashing ME1 no less) is honestly extremely telling.

By comparing ME1 and ME2 and saying that they're similar? In that case, you're the one bashing BOTH games by bashing ONE of them.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I hope ME3 is a happy balance between ME1 and ME2. I'm hoping this will
be like the Xenosaga trilogy where the first is good, the second is a
departure, and the third fixes the mistakes of both into a happy
compromise.

And seriously, enough with all the pictures. All
you're doing is spamming the same crap as if it's taken on new meaning.

Or people aren't exactly keeping their word, coming back to argue even after they've said they've left (and then using the same tactics that that I use, but they've complained about).

Modifié par Ecael, 14 mai 2010 - 10:12 .

[Ecael]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

I must retreat before fecael matter hammers me with another crushing delivery of Vorcha based pic spam. Or heaven forbid, the dreaded QUOTE MINING!

Flee! Flee!

*flees*

Don't worry, you'll be back even though you said you'll leave... again.

[Clover Rider]

fortunesque wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...


I think Mass Effect 2 was a crushing disappointment, and a game that really sucked quite badly, and that this DLC doesnt change that. Shock horror, I did it again.

The fact that criticising ME2 on these boards always leads to a bunch of angry ME2 fanboys trying to defend it (by bashing ME1 no less) is honestly extremely telling.

Shh. Dink... you're not allowed to dislike ME2. Come on. Be real here.

We're not allowed to be disappointed and we're certainly not allowed to voice that opinion.

Oh you guys can hate on it all you want but in the end it helps you like not at all 

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Ecael wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I hope ME3 is a happy balance between ME1 and ME2. I'm hoping this will
be like the Xenosaga trilogy where the first is good, the second is a
departure, and the third fixes the mistakes of both into a happy
compromise.

And seriously, enough with all the pictures. All
you're doing is spamming the same crap as if it's taken on new meaning.

Or people aren't exactly keeping their word, coming back to argue even after they've said they've left (and then using the same tactics that that I use, but they've complained about).

I'm sorry, is this directed at me? I've not done anything you say here.

[Ecael]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I hope ME3 is a happy balance between ME1 and ME2. I'm hoping this will
be like the Xenosaga trilogy where the first is good, the second is a
departure, and the third fixes the mistakes of both into a happy
compromise.

And seriously, enough with all the pictures. All
you're doing is spamming the same crap as if it's taken on new meaning.

Or people aren't exactly keeping their word, coming back to argue even after they've said they've left (and then using the same tactics that that I use, but they've complained about).

I'm sorry, is this directed at me? I've not done anything you say here.

Most of the pictures are redirected at Dink, anyway.

[SheppardJohn]

Hello!

I have 1question for creators for this game and ME3

First of all thank you very much to create such an awesome game i cant stop playing it



Now im iteresting if you can build an options in ME3 that you can build your own colony or something like that and pick your own folks for the crew and to go other places in galaxy + goin to earth mars and other planets in our solar system and do missions ther too,meet turians homeworld do missions for them,build your own shipps develope own weapons.....

beaming technology like in stargate not be bad if in your in bad situation they can pull you out to your ship. Then you can inprove that visor taht show you how many metter are to the target and radar map on, zoom in and aout,also on the snipers,silent weapons would be great too,then more dress for your caracter and others +sunglasses those are my ideas hope they are ok and sorry for my bad english im looking forward to to me3 to preorder it next year when is done cause is really damn good game with awesome storry and 1more thing can you doit like you can talk to the pearson trough your microphone and gave orders ...

[LiquidGrape]

This thread is filled with fightin' werds.

What to do...

[Hadark]

LiquidGrape wrote...

This thread is filled with fightin' werds.
What to do...

Bottom right

[Onyx Jaguar]

Shavon wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

All the ME1 fanboys/girls need to play some Pokemon that is all.

No offense, but that seems like it would be ME2 fanbois who are more suited for a game like that . . .  if they can figure out the game, that is, lol.

Pokemon is surprisingly complex.  That is all.

[ThisIsMadness91]

Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmm, you know, the DLC might be worth it if I can hack into cerberus' mainframe and feed it the Zordon of OZ, then POOF! no more "OMG Cmd! We stepped in it again! We rezzed u so saaaaaaaaave us! " mentality the poor 3 headed dog has.

I hope this mission gives us a chance to hurt Cerberus in any way. One of my favourite moments in ME2 was when they asked me to resuce their operative or recover the incriminating info he had, and I gave it to the Alliance instead!

[Onyx Jaguar]

Also Xenosaga 3 is no where near as good as the first one gameplay wise. It looked pretty but was also a major step down in presentation, one that many Japenese developers have done over the past few years as instead of having cutscenes they like to replace that crap with "Static artwork/shots"

[xDarkicex]

Any neat swag to unlock sort of like the new gun at the mid end of kasumi, PLEASE LET IT BE A Electro magnetic pulse pistol Designed Specifically for taking down Robotics and shields With extreme Easy, yet doing no damage to organic life, seems to me we would have invented this sort of tech to fight the geth long a go please bioware you could have the last living scientist give it to us and everything, would also Rock for Adepts.

[Onyx Jaguar]

- ME1 had fewer loading screens. In ME1 the elevators masked the loading screens. You could travel seamlessly with the only difference being that you had to wait at times for the elevator to reach it's destination. In ME2 all you do is warp.

ME 1 used the same exact loading screen whenever you entered a building that ME 2 does. ME 2 eliminated loading screens in the hub worlds by making them "flat as it were". That "relay" loading screen was very frequent in ME 1.



The Elevator loading screen is only on the Normandy. The ship departure/airlock was also replaced by a loading screen. THere are also fewer "In area" loading screens in ME 2. ME 1 only had the elevators and the airlock/landing over ME 2. With better hub world design in ME 1 they could have eliminated that as Feros is well done and has nary a loading screen/area (in fact it skips an elevator ride and takes you straight to the platform) but the Citadel has a couple of annoying elevators and Noveria is a complete disaster.

[Ecael]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmm, you know, the DLC might be worth it if I can hack into cerberus' mainframe and feed it the Zordon of OZ, then POOF! no more "OMG Cmd! We stepped in it again! We rezzed u so saaaaaaaaave us! " mentality the poor 3 headed dog has.

I hope this mission gives us a chance to hurt Cerberus in any way. One of my favourite moments in ME2 was when they asked me to resuce their operative or recover the incriminating info he had, and I gave it to the Alliance instead!

I do hope the mission gives that kind of option as well. I have two characters - one helping Cerberus as much as possible, the other hurting it as much as possible (even gave the information about Cerberus to the Shadow Broker, of all things).

Since Kasumi had the "Alliance secrets~!" in Keiji's greybox and Shepard had the option of destroying it, it's possible that this paid DLC will have a major consequence to deal with as well.

[kraidy1117]

Wow, this place get's hostile very fast. *looks at the past pages* oh what do you know, Dink started this sh*t, AGAIN!. *sigh*



So anyone here hoping that Legion, Miri and Tali have unique dialog?

[Sand King]

kraidy1117 wrote...

So anyone here hoping that Legion, Miri and Tali have unique dialog?

I'm hoping that Legion will have a good a mount of input and maybe Mordin too.

[Ecael]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Wow, this place get's hostile very fast. *looks at the past pages* oh what do you know, Dink started this sh*t, AGAIN!. *sigh*

So anyone here hoping that Legion, Miri and Tali have unique dialog?

I'm just hoping that Shepard is going to have unique dialogue. The side mission audio files for squadmates are generic enough to be used on any mission: