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[ion blaster4]

Hello. I am a parent of a 14 year old son, and is birthday is coming up in a few weeks and he is begging me to get him this game for his game box or something. I always make sure he isnt trying to get a game that is too inapropriate, and I am okay with blood and gore, but I havent seen a game that says sexual content and partial nudity under the ESRB rating. I was wondering if anyone that has played this game before could tell me if it is appropriate enough for a 14 year old, and what exactly there is in those 2 subjects? Thanks in advance.

Also, I wasnt exactly sure where to put this, so I put it in general discussion.

[marbatico]

dont worry, if you dont use mods, there are no nude ladies.



blood and gore are everywhere though.

[Tinxa]

Well sex scenes are part of a romance the player char can have with nonplayer characters but they're very mild.

There's also a brothel in the game but it has a more humorous content. There are also some scantily dressed female demons in the game.

[TheMadCat]

To me age is irrelevant, the maturity of the individual is far more important after all you can be mature and understanding at 14. Personally the game is actually quite tame on the sexual front, there are a few instances where things are implied but nothing is ever really vividly shown aside from a couple of quick, clean, and almost comical cutscenes, certainly no full frontal nudity anywhere in the game. Honestly if you've got no problem with the over the top gore in the game I don't see any reason to be worried about the sexual content, it really is very tame in this game.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 14 mai 2010 - 08:05 .

[Veange]

I think overall the sexual content / partial nudity in Dragon Age is fairly tame compared to what many 14-18 year old teenagers would be exposed to, under parental supervision or otherwise.



Since you are his parent, watch this and decide if it is something you would want your child watching: (note that it's probably NSFW, depending on where you work) this is about as 'sexual' as the game content gets, and the romance / sex content is overall about 0.1-0.5% of the entire game; a very small portion. Graphically there are PG-13 programs on TV (like Friends, for example) or movies that are more sexually explicit at times.



The game content, however, explores much more mature themes within the story that are more inappropriate for children than simply blood and gore - making difficult life and death decisions in morally gray areas, adult dialogues, torture etc.



All in all in retrospect as a young adult, parents tend to be overprotective of their children at that age - kids tend to already be exposed to more mature material than they let on to their parents.



If you do decide to get the game for you son I'd say it's a good opportunity for you to build a dialogue with him about the mature content present in the game, the moral dilemmas and offer parently advice / guidance - much in the same spirit of all those ads urging parents to talk about smoking, drugs and pre-marital sex with their kids than pretend they don't do it!

[ObserverStatus]

You said that your son wanted this for his "game box" . Mods are far more difficult to install on consoles than on the PC so the aforementioned "nude lady mods" should not be a problem.

[ion blaster4]

OK guys thanks for all your help.

[sami jo]

I let my 15 year old play it, though I did keep tabs on him. Mods cannot be installed on the consoles, so that isn't a worry. Persistent gore can be turned off to make it a bit less gory. The story is pretty mature, and by that I mean he will miss a lot of it if he isn't fairly mature. There are some very dark references to torture, racism and other social violence. It's no worse than the evening news, but it is called a "dark" fantasy for a reason. Truthfully, if he isn't mature enough to really grasp the story content, he will probably get bored and stop playing quickly. The more mature content doesn't occur until later in the game.

[Sabariel]

I'll never understand this "It's okay to decapitate 100+ people, but OMG! No boobies!" line of thought...

[hexaligned]

At 14 if your child hasn't been exposed to some of the more "mature" themes in this game already, he damn well should be. It isn't a japanese rape simulator or anything. I read Brother Grimm stories to my 3 year old niece that are more fundementaly disturbing than anything in this game.

Modifié par relhart, 14 mai 2010 - 11:48 .

[ion blaster4]

So it is like World of Warcraft but its just by himself with computers and lots of blood with mild sexual scenes?

It may be easier if I compare it to Assassins Creed 2. I got him that for Christmas, and if he can play that, should he be able to play this?

[Loerwyn]

ion blaster4 wrote...
So it is like World of Warcraft but its just by himself with computers and lots of blood with mild sexual scenes?

Not by a long shot. Dragon Age has a lot more realism, to be honest.

It may be easier if I compare it to Assassins Creed 2. I got him that for Christmas, and if he can play that, should he be able to play this?

Perhaps. Assassin's Creed 2 is a 15 (BBFC) or 18 (PEGI) in the UK, with Dragon Age being an 18 in both, so the content will likely be more mature in Dragon Age, but in the USA both games have an M rating.

The nudity/sexual scenes are all implied unless one does take it further with mods. You see a few suggestive positions, but it'll be nothing your kid has not seen before. As some people have linked above, there's a bunch of videos on YouTube so if you're really this unsure, then look them up. They'll give you a good idea of what the game is/isn't like.

[sassperella]

Sabariel wrote...

I'll never understand this "It's okay to decapitate 100+ people, but OMG! No boobies!" line of thought...

I know me neither, if you're going to censor your child's viewing I'd have though violence should come first.

[Elhanan]

sassperella wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

I'll never understand this "It's okay to decapitate 100+ people, but OMG! No boobies!" line of thought...

I know me neither, if you're going to censor your child's viewing I'd have though violence should come first.

But then, y'all are not the parental Guardian units which should always aspire to be the initial line of defense; not some critical rating stamp on the box, or disolving sliding rule of morality.

Here is a vote against allowing such content for the youngster. As some have mentioned, the game settings can be quite violent, and I have mine subdued and still see decapitations; just not being bathed in blood spray. And while the sexual scenes I have viewed could be considered tame by some Cultural Standards, the many ref to sex in various forms including the language remind me why today's society considers sex to be seen as casual; not comittment.

Modifié par Elhanan, 15 mai 2010 - 05:27 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

My opinion on the matter is this. It's a dark game with some serious, mature themes in it. It's well written and designed and comes across as more gritty than other fantasy games out there. Sex is a theme at moments in the game plot, particularly in the character romances but it's done tastefully and the characters are in their underwear (i.e. it's not explicit). The violence however is pretty explicit though with decapitations, piles of corpses, bloodsplatter on the characters, ect. I personally wouldn't let a 14 year old play it unless the kid's personality showed an ample amount of maturity for that age. But it's every individual parent's responsibility to let their kids have or not have such media.

[Forgottenandbrokenheart]

It's not only the sex as a theme in moments or the gore and blood. There are times, where the player has to make some very mature and heavy moral choices in the game that could lead to some very heavy thoughts for a kid of 14, if he isn't allowed to be guided as to the why and such. (and even then...)



How do you explain that you have the option to kill a young child, even if the child itself isn't dangerous?

I found it a bit disturbing. If the option wasn't there, it would have been less...



So, it is on the edge. But I would not get it for him, personally speaking.

[Chuvvy]

The partial nudity is a broodmother. Nothing sexy about that. And people under estimate the intelligence of kids like the poster above me, no offense.

[Sabariel]

Slidell505 wrote...

The partial nudity is a broodmother. Nothing sexy about that. And people under estimate the intelligence of kids like the poster above me, no offense.

Agreed on all accounts.

[hexaligned]

If the kid was a preteen I could sort of understand the point of sheltering them from some of the things in the game, (even though I personally still wouldn't) I find it very disturbing anyone would consider it for a 14 year old, talk about a kid that's going to be seriously disjointed from reality.

Offtopic :  I was sexually active at 15, with my parents concent.  I was also going on week long survival camping trips by myself at that age.  I had my own house at 16.  It makes me mentally cringe contemplating someone that age, being that sheltered.

Modifié par relhart, 15 mai 2010 - 08:10 .

[Mlai00]

When I was 14, we read Lord of the Flies in class. That story contained "dark fantasy," but no one said to our English teacher "omfg social violence and grimdark topics exposed to fragile 14 year olds! They're going to be disjointed from reality and go on copycat children killing sprees!"

A game like DAO is the same type of thing. You have to see it as classic literature which become milestones to a child's perception and maturity. Not a brainwashing device which "corrupts innocence." Gimme a break, I read Heart of Darkness in elementary school, and The Turning of the Screw (yes this classic is as disturbing as its title sounds) in JHS.

[Indoctrination]

Don't let people mislead you. This game isn't appropriate for teenagers.


However, it is a very good game, so you should buy it for yourself!

[Tellervo]

I wouldn't be worried about the sexual content at all, and the gore is only a mild concern. The game treats some very serious topics though, allows for some morally difficult decisions and fully explores the gray areas of heroism. There are some parts of the game you might want to watch him play and discuss with him, or just ask him where the story is going on occasion to encourage him to discuss it--this game doesn't sugar coat the ills of society in the slightest, though it does pull back before going too far in depicting them. Just as you would with a particularly rough bout of evening news or a "mature" book.

[Minaleth]

I wouldn't worry, 14 should be fairly mature for DA.

I have played several hours with 8-year old. I pointed out to his parents that the box says 18+ not 8+ but they said it's ok, if the game is not on-line and bought him the game, so I didn't bother to discuss that anymore. According to my experience the kid just skips the parts he doesn't understand, like dark social commentary, decissions, sexual hints. They are also quite used to violence and in game fighting (don't ask me if it's good thing or bad, it can be both depending on context). The problem were nightmare fuels like broodmother, or warewolves. This kid deliberately choose to stop playing the game after warewolves encounter. He said it was to scary. *shrug*

[Bfler]

The violence should be the first point of concern. Nobody is hurt through a naked body or becomes mentally ill. Sexuality, if it's not exactly a hardcore porn, is natural.



In case of violence I would say DA is brutal and I think there are some younger people that aren't able to cope with it.