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[Lintanis]

Anyone remember the Tom and Jerry cartoons and the level of violence in that, it gets parodied in the Simpsons with the Itchy and Scratchy cartoon. Think games overly get bad press due to lack of knowledge.

The supposed sex in the game is very blink and its gone more like a fade to black. Should always be Parental choice you know your son better then anyone and can judge how mature he is for his age

[Elhanan]

Seems a few here forget the oral sex inuendos made by NPC's, and one seemingly illustrated as a momentary distraction. Plus the ref. and inclusion of rape, multiple partners as a gaming incentive, beastiality, necrophilia, etc. While not all are graphically generated, this would seem to beg attention from those that young. They sure seems to draw a lot of attention from many older folks here on these forums, including mod makers, though admittedly perhaps not as mature as some 14 yr olds.



And for those that reflect on their youthful experiences as any acceptable standard of decency, that is a rather precarious slope of the hill you are upon to defend.



As for TV violence, I never once had nightmares from Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner, etc, but can still recall vividly the dreams generated from Jonny Quest, Twilight Zone, and a few others. They activated my own imagination, and my own thoughts can still create fear not seen on any screen, or duped by any FX. Same can be said for books, and the written word. While I personally savored much of that terror like a carnival roller-coaster, some have weaker stomachs than others. And who will be there to clean up that mess? You? Or the parents?



I believe DA:O is a great game, for myself. But I also bear responsibility for those things I recommend, and in this case I cannot.

[Wuxia]

I never really noticed much in the way of mature themes in DA:O, just standard fantasy trope really. Sure you can set the graphics so there's blood spatter when the protagonists swing a sword at an ogre but it's not as if your running up to civilians and decapitating them. The 'sex' scenes are extremely mild - no full nudity and they only last seconds. In the UK there are prime time ads for perfume etc. with more nudity.



Does your son read a lot fantasy literature? If he's already started on the likes of G.R.R Martin then I wouldn't worry about DA:O being too mature.

[sandslayer76]

It depends on the teenager, of course, but I think most (if not all normal 14 year olds) would be mentally mature enough to play this kind of game. People oft underestimate the maturity of their kids, possibly because of the natural protective instinct parents have. Trust me, though, if your kid has been exposed to the internet before, likely he's been exposed to much, much worse than anything Dragon Age can offer.



Now, I personally think that an adult would have more fun playing this kind of game than a teenager would (unless he's really mature), simply because teenagers probably wouldn't see the weighting of the decisions made in the game. Many wouldn't understand the widespread devastation caused by the blight, or the social injustices endured by the casteless and elves in alienages. This game deals with issues much larger than Oghren's next sex joke, or the beheading of people and darkspawn.



A teenager can enjoy this game, and I'm fairly certain he/she would not be harmed in any way by playing it, but they probably won't understand the depth of the Dragon Age universe (and they probably wouldn't read all the Codex Entries, either.)

[Lintanis]

If you do buy it for him you should have a go playing yourself its got a great storyline and excellent dialogue. Then you can join in the debates on here bout the best characters

[TanithAeyrs]

I think it very much depends on your son. As a mother of two (my oldest is 8) I do allow my children my children to watch movies and play games rated for older age levels, but I watch/play them first to determine what is in them and how I feel my children will react. We also discuss any violence contained in them and how violence is not a problem solver in the real world.

I would be more concerned about the weighty moral choices in Dragon Age than the sex or even the violence. There were several points in the quest where it literally took me 20 minutes to decide what my character would do (kill a child, his mother or risk others dying?) There certainly are some 14 year olds that could handle this, there are also some that couldn't. I would recommend playing the game yourself and then deciding.

Modifié par TanithAeyrs, 15 mai 2010 - 01:34 .

[Chuvvy]

Bfler wrote...
In case of violence I would say DA is brutal and I think there are some younger people that aren't able to cope with it.

Unless your kid is already seriously mentally distort, he'll be fine.

Modifié par Slidell505, 15 mai 2010 - 01:43 .

[WilliamShatner]

The game was a bit too gorey even for me. The amount of blood in the battle of Ostagar was off-puting and having blood on your character and companion during dialog scenes was silly and distracting.

[hexaligned]

I will admit I turned persistant gore off almost immediately, it just looks silly imo. So maybe I didn't get the whole stomach turning effect the game offers.

[Lintanis]

Cant really consider it gorey when its not real, I love using the Virulent walking bomb spell just to see the enemies exploded with as much cartoon blood as possible and love seeing the decapitations cus its not real .

[Kacynski]

As others pointed out, there is more things to worry then nudity or sexuality in this game. After just reading the OP I would have immediatly responded, that DA is definitly not a game for a teenager, but neither for its sexual content or the general violance shwon in fighting scenes - I think a teen should be able to handel that.
Nevertheless, even considering the arguments "pro" still did not convince me, and certainly I would not feel comfortable to let my 14 year old to play this game. It is a dark story with a few disturbingly dark moments,such as seeking revenge (most likely) for a raped family member, learning quite explitcitly how darkspawn "spawns", making choices as to kill innocent children, slaughtering an innocent village because their leader cannot forget some old hurting memories and there you go ....
If you let him play, make sure to discuss the story and morale choices - both of him as he plays as well as of the people he will meet ingame.

It's really not to worry about seeing some naked skin, not at all I would say.

It's a great game, but even for an adult it is emotianally upstirring (that's one of the games intentions, I guess), just maybe think twice about it - or even better play it yourself before handing it to your boy

Edit: And I really can't follow the "Tom & Jerry" argument. Comparing the emotional discomfort generated by DA with a Tom & Jerry cartoon, I don't know. that's two differnt pairs of shows for me

Modifié par Kacynski, 15 mai 2010 - 04:19 .

[gingerbill]

I would be happy to let a 14 year old play , the sexual content of the game certainly wouldnt be a problem its very mild and more romance than sex.



Theres alot of violence and blood but nothing i would be concerned about to be honest .

[Farbautisonn]

Any 14 year old kid that hasn't googled "boobs" yet will find this game disturbing. The other 99,9999999999997 percent of the 14 year olds should manage without personality distorting trauma.

[Surango]

You could always go on youtube to see some game play videos. Here are the main creatures that show skin: desire demon, broodmother, Mother (awakenings). You can also see pictures of them on the dragon age wiki, just type those names in. Then you can judge for yourself.

link: dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age_Wiki

edit: removed my own growling. I was brought up kind of like Morrigan.

Modifié par Surango, 15 mai 2010 - 09:31 .

[sami jo]

ion blaster4 wrote...

So it is like World of Warcraft but its just by himself with computers and lots of blood with mild sexual scenes?
It may be easier if I compare it to Assassins Creed 2. I got him that for Christmas, and if he can play that, should he be able to play this?

The violence level is comparable.  The story itself is roughly as dark, so yes, if he is mature enough to play Assassin's Creed, he won't be shocked by anything here. 

Edit: Again, I have a son at a similar age who has played the game.  My concern was not the violence (which is no worse than any other video game he is likely to play) or the character romances (which are certainly not more explicit than he has encountered at school).  There are some very emotionally disturbing moments in the game.  This is a DARK world.  There are a lot of times when the character must choose between two morally questionable options (Is it alright to kill one man to save others?, Is it better to choose the honest leader who is ineffectual or the tyrant who can lead in a crisis?)  Murder, torture, racism, sexism and other very serious topics are all over the game.  I talked to my son about his choices, and he really did think about what the right choices were.  Those things are a reality in the real world, and I don't think it does my son any favors to pretend otherwise.  It actually made a nice starting point to discuss some of those issues.

Modifié par sami jo, 16 mai 2010 - 01:12 .

[GwaR9292]

i think that you should not worry... im 14 myself and i havent had any problems with the more "mature" scenes

[Slavka13748]

People have already said everything there really is to say, but I'd just like to say that it really is about the maturity of the teenager. As a personal example, me and my brother have both played the game: he is 14, I am 15. Whereas I understood the darker themes of the game, most of it went straight over my brother's head. He was more concerned with the next funny thing Zevran would say than whether it was right to kill Connor, for example. As such, I don't think he enjoyed the game quite so much as a result, but in terms of being able to deal with the gore and the sexual content... I don't think there's any problem.

[AuraofMana]

I played GTA and Diablo 2 (which was rated M) when I was 10 or so. I shot down innocent people while playing that level in MW2 and had fun with it. I murdered random people on the street in AC2, and I definitely enjoy destroying things. That doesn't mean I'll do it in real life. I understood the difference between the virtual world and the real world when I played my first video game. I don't go out on the street or school to shoot people. I don't perform demonic rituals in my spare time.

[Rogue Eagle]

Dragon age isn't too bad. the violence level is about that of lord of the rings. Most sexual content is implied and there's no full on nudity.

Plus he's 14, he'd have the means to see naked ladies elsewhere (internet, school, mates magazines) if he had the want.

Additionally, it might help him to grasp some important lessons in life. Nobody in dragon age party camp will jump into bed with you straight away. You have to talk to them and say the right things. This may in fact see him not taking anything for granted in the future.

Modifié par Rogue Eagle, 19 mai 2010 - 01:26 .

[Gazardiel]

As others have said, the nudity and physical violence aren't inappropriate compared to other games/media. However, being a "dark fantasy" game, Dragon Age does convey a full atmosphere of difficult moral choices (with consequences - a great feature) and larger social issues where evil people succeed and bad things happen to good people. 

While a 14 year old can certainly be intelligent enough to see this, he may not fully understand the weight of what is going on.  Like some mature television shows that parents ought to watch with their children, this game would be a great springboard for family conversations about moral choices and making tough decisions when you're responsible for the well-being of others. 

He could learn a lot from this game if he has avenues available to reflect on the decisions he makes and the consequences that follow from those choices.  I treasure the discussions I had with my dad about moral choices in computer games we played - we both gained so much from them, and I would have loved to have grown up playing this game and talking with him about it.

[Rhys Cordelle]

Agreed. Violence-wise, there are far worse things out there, but this game has very adult themes.

[Lintanis]

The Broodmother could take sum explaining

[yummysoap]

At fourteen years old I was exposed to much, much worse than Dragon Age ever had to offer me. Sorry guys, but rape and torture and horrible grisly murder and boobies were things I was well of already, and things my fourteen year-old friends were well aware of. Especailly boobies, I can tell you for sure that at that age boobies were the center of the universe, and with the help of a handy dial-up connection and a few magazines, I'd already seen far more sexually explicit content than Dragon Age could ever hope to show. I wouldn't put it past any teenager of the same age, honestly, despite what parents may wish to believe. As for everything else, you don't see anything more horrifying then, say, some of the stories you'd hear on the News in the evening.



Though I may look at some of Dragon Age's themes with different insight now, I can honestly say that it wouldn't have affected me psychologically at all if I played it as a child.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I would not buy this game for a 14 year old. I would buy this game for a pre-adult....say 16 -18. It's rated M for a reason. I would go to youtube and watch the various vids of it over there. This is probably the best thing you could do to make a decision.

[nikki191]

Lintanis wrote...

The Broodmother could take sum explaining

im 36 and that messed my head up when i saw that scene