1013 réponses à ce sujet

[Sajuro]

BREAKING NEWS***BREAKING NEWS***Cerberus has announced that, after years of study and analyzing data, that it has come to the conclusion that "being injected with thresher maw acid is really, really, really painful". The covert operations group that had defected from the Systems Alliance two years ago announced its results after analyzing the pitch of the tortured screams coming from its 'volunteers'.  The remaining scientists celebrated  their breakthrough on a remote spacestation, the celebration was cut short when a power outage released Rachni, Husks, and several Thorian Creepers. When contacted for a comment, The Illusive Man would only say that "They knew the risks when they signed on"

[Dean_the_Young]

Sajuro wrote...

BREAKING NEWS***BREAKING NEWS***Cerberus has announced that, after years of study and analyzing data, that it has come to the conclusion that "being injected with thresher maw acid is really, really, really painful". The covert operations group that had defected from the Systems Alliance two years ago announced its results after analyzing the pitch of the tortured screams coming from its 'volunteers'.  The remaining scientists celebrated  their breakthrough on a remote spacestation, the celebration was cut short when a power outage released Rachni, Husks, and several Thorian Creepers. When contacted for a comment, The Illusive Man would only say that "They knew the risks when they signed on"

In unrelated news, Commander Shepard was spotted alive and well after his terminal collision with a planet. Asked where Cerberus had gained the knowledge of biology and chemistry to bring the Commander back to life, The Illusive Man only smiled and gave a single statement.

"The answer to that, my dear, is illusive. Yeeeaah!!!"

[Sajuro]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

BREAKING NEWS***BREAKING NEWS***Cerberus has announced that, after years of study and analyzing data, that it has come to the conclusion that "being injected with thresher maw acid is really, really, really painful". The covert operations group that had defected from the Systems Alliance two years ago announced its results after analyzing the pitch of the tortured screams coming from its 'volunteers'.  The remaining scientists celebrated  their breakthrough on a remote spacestation, the celebration was cut short when a power outage released Rachni, Husks, and several Thorian Creepers. When contacted for a comment, The Illusive Man would only say that "They knew the risks when they signed on"

In unrelated news, Commander Shepard was spotted alive and well after his terminal collision with a planet. Asked where Cerberus had gained the knowledge of biology and chemistry to bring the Commander back to life, The Illusive Man only smiled and gave a single statement.

"The answer to that, my dear, is illusive. Yeeeaah!!!"

Later that day, the cast of 'CSI: Illium' was found huskified the network executives have assured Citadel News that being Huskified will not affect their acting abilities.

[Dean_the_Young]

Sajuro wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

BREAKING NEWS***BREAKING NEWS***Cerberus has announced that, after years of study and analyzing data, that it has come to the conclusion that "being injected with thresher maw acid is really, really, really painful". The covert operations group that had defected from the Systems Alliance two years ago announced its results after analyzing the pitch of the tortured screams coming from its 'volunteers'.  The remaining scientists celebrated  their breakthrough on a remote spacestation, the celebration was cut short when a power outage released Rachni, Husks, and several Thorian Creepers. When contacted for a comment, The Illusive Man would only say that "They knew the risks when they signed on"

In unrelated news, Commander Shepard was spotted alive and well after his terminal collision with a planet. Asked where Cerberus had gained the knowledge of biology and chemistry to bring the Commander back to life, The Illusive Man only smiled and gave a single statement.

"The answer to that, my dear, is illusive. Yeeeaah!!!"

Later that day, the cast of 'CSI: Illium' was found huskified the network executives have assured Citadel News that being Huskified will not affect their acting abilities.

Critical reviews of the show have skyrocketed, citing great increases in viewer approval of the characterization, drama, and empathy of the cast.

[Sajuro]

"Looks like his body was completely ripped apart"

"blurgh blarg bluuuur" -puts on shades- "blurgh"

Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Dean_the_Young]

Funnier than two volus arguing a divorce settlement.

[CaptainZaysh]

Wildecker wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

We should be glad to live in a great superpower, and strive to maintain and grow that civilization.

You know, this sounds exactly like the Politburo about the "Worker's paradise". Be glad, and do not question authorities. Believe your domestic, state-approved radio/TV and stay clear of the dirty lies of foreigners, as they're either afraid or jealous.

Wow.  Someone suggesting we strive to maintain and grow our civilisation sounds exactly like totalitarian propaganda to you, does it?

Talk about a decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling.  I know this will probably sound patronising but I don't mean to be when I say that I honestly feel sorry for you.

[Wildecker]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Wildecker wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

We should be glad to live in a great superpower, and strive to maintain and grow that civilization.

You know, this sounds exactly like the Politburo about the "Worker's paradise". Be glad, and do not question authorities. Believe your domestic, state-approved radio/TV and stay clear of the dirty lies of foreigners, as they're either afraid or jealous.

Wow.  Someone suggesting we strive to maintain and grow our civilisation sounds exactly like totalitarian propaganda to you, does it?

Talk about a decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling.  I know this will probably sound patronising but I don't mean to be when I say that I honestly feel sorry for you.

Made my day. You actually expect a totalitarian state to hammer its citizens with a daily "We're really, really, really bad. And we like it that way, so you better learn to love sucking up. Or else!" ?

Freedom of speech and thought means that you actually can **** about your government and its politics without fear of some suits showing up, knocking at your door, flashing some government organisation badge and dragging you along for interrogation/intimidation/incarceration because of "national security issues".
Or burying you under a lawsuit for possession of drugs and/or child porn that you never, ever bought but that turns up nonetheless when your flat is searched.

.

[lovgreno]

Sajuro wrote...

"Looks like his body was completely ripped apart"
"blurgh blarg bluuuur" -puts on shades- "blurgh"
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

The CSI husk show was actualy a part of Cerberus plan to make husks more popular with the public. The husks was also often shown drinking the new Thorian Power Drink and saying things like: "After I started drinking Thorian I don't need any proof to give my full support to Cerberus. Blind faith in TIM is the only way to save the galaxy!"

In slightly related news: Cerberus personell was caught in the act stealing corpses. Cerberus posterboy for their husk cell Bob The Husk had this comment about it: "Hey it's not so bad being a husk, those dead people should see it as another chance to serve Cerb... I mean humanity. And remember: Whenever you have doubts about my boss just tell yourself this: Whatever it takes.  And by the way us husks are human too! You living humans are all racists..."

[Wildecker]

Shandepared wrote...

Wildecker wrote...

Or burying you under a lawsuit for possession of drugs and/or child porn that you never, ever bought but that turns up nonetheless when your flat is searched.

Just holding it for your friend, right?

It's called a "frame". And methinks I saw it first in one of many, many US TV shows.

[Asheer_Khan]

"Show me a man and i find proper paragraph against him" - motto communist police and secret police.

[prizm123]

Nightwriter wrote...

an organization that is completely and totally motivated by power, and is willing to do anything to achieve it.

well, there is that little matter of a Reaper fleet coming to wipe out all life in the galaxy that is still coming

face it, all organizations like that are motivated by having power, its like a political party in that respect, all they care about is getting into power and staying there, not the people they supposedly represent

[CaptainZaysh]

Wildecker wrote...

Freedom of speech and thought means that you actually can **** about your government and its politics without fear of some suits showing up, knocking at your door, flashing some government organisation badge and dragging you along for interrogation/intimidation/incarceration because of "national security issues".
Or burying you under a lawsuit for possession of drugs and/or child porn that you never, ever bought but that turns up nonetheless when your flat is searched.

Mate, these are paranoid delusions.  During the Bush presidency all anybody in the US ever did was b*tch about their government and its politics and yet we didn't see mass arrests, did we?  If you can't see the world of difference between the FBI and the Stasi then you are a fool.  It is possible to discriminate between shades of grey, you know.

[CaptainZaysh]

Shandepared wrote...

The Alliance and the human species in general will never carve out a big enough of niche for themselves unless they are willing to play dirty. Don't you think it is fair that we at least be able to compete with the (former) Council races? How do you suspect they attained so much power in the first place? Was it through good will? Certainly that's what they'd like us all to believe but reading between the lines will tell you the true story.

The three biggest kids on the block made their own clubhouse and set up rules where only kids as tough as them could enter. However in addition they made rule against other kids being tough. If you try to compete with the Council's military supremacy you're seen as a pariah of the galactic community. "Too reckless, too independent..."

According to the Citadel dreadnaughts are the measure of a military but they don't allow non-Council species to build very many. Thus those species can't hope to meet the ship requirements to join the Council. Furthermore the lack of a formidable military ensures they can't as easily spread their economies either.

In short the entire system is designed to keep everyone out. The only reason humanity had a shot was precisely because we refused to conform. It was our decidely "renegade" attitude that put us in a position to either save the Council or usurp its power once it was destroyed.

If humanity is to succeed they must get as despicable and dirty as the Council; and that's where Cerberus comes in.

I don't think they're any more inept that anyone else. Though I do understand where this perception is coming from. The writers I don't think have thought-out much of what they put in the game all that well. In fact prior to playing ME2 I had this very fear about Cerberus: I supported their mission after reading Ascension but I feared that they were bunglers.

On reflection though, Shepard has to save everybody. He spent the entire first game running around the galaxy cleaning up messes for Admiral Hackett. At the same time Shepard was busy doing work that the Council should have been doing (like exposing Saren) and his mission itself was one big clean-up operation for a millenia old mistake made by the Council. The STG come off the best in ME1 as they do manage to hold out alone against Saren and they do come up with a sound plan that maximizes what little resources are available to complete the mission. However it was pointed out by someone else (Dean, I think) that in ME1 they have one really big screw up. The defection of Maelon to the krogan could have started another interstellar war. It would be as bad as releasing the rachni queen and having her turn out to be malevolent.

In the end nothing Cerberus has done has ever threatened the galaxy like Maelon's rogue research. On the contrary, their greatest successes go way above and beyond the STG. Sure the genophage is impressive, but it's just a bio-weapon. It's not something that breaks the laws of physics or nature as the people in universe of Mass Effect understand them. The Normandy however, it's stealth system primarily, is revolutionary. If used to its first potential it could change the shape of warfare in Mass Effect much as the airplane or machinegun did on Earth.

Then there was the ressurection of Shepard, by itself an impressive medical feat. With enough practice and research perhaps some of those techniques could be refined. Countless lives could be saved with medical procedures derrived from Project Lazarus.

Finally, they outmaneuvered and then defeated the Collectors. Yes, of-course Shepard deserves credit for his leadership and combat prowess but so does Cerberus for their support. They gave him the means and the knowledge to do the impossible. The result was the Reapers losing one of their most important proxies in the Milky Way and in capturing the Collector base humanity gained a significant technological advance and priceless intel on the Reapers themselves.   Oh, and all of this made possible by E.D.I., an A.I. derived from Reaper technology that has so far proven safe, stable, and invaluable.

In the grand scheme of things Cerberus' failures get overblown. Pragia was 20 years ago, and even in catastrophic failure it still produced Jack and it is possible some of their procedures were carried over to Ascension and used on Gillian; yet another success. The rachni that escaped from their research station more recently did threaten two Alliance outposts and this is Cerberus' biggest failure. However without a fertile queen the damage these rachni could inflict was limited. Chasca? A small team, barely more than a hundred people and they probably at least discovered that there are some preculiar phenomena surrounding dragon's teeth.

The derelict Reaper? A success. Many personnel were lost but the IFF was recovered and Cerberus again learned something about indoctrination. We know better now just how persistant it is and we might have a better guage on how fast it can occur.

One also can't discount the fallout from these failures or more specifically; that there was no fallout. When a problem arises Cerberus gets it fixed one way or another. With the intel forwarded to Shepard he was able to thwart the geth from looting the remains of the Firewalker and rob them of Prothean relics. Presumably the same will come of Overlord; in the end Cerberus will get Shepard on the scene to nip the problem in the bud before it can expand in scope.

Quoted for awesomeness.

[Pacifien]

CaptainZaysh wrote...
*snip*
Quoted for awesomeness.

You know, even though I don't always agree with Shandepared's decisions (I probably disagree more often than not), I do have to also admit that was a pretty awesome post.

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 juin 2010 - 03:12 .

[Sajuro]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Wildecker wrote...

Freedom of speech and thought means that you actually can **** about your government and its politics without fear of some suits showing up, knocking at your door, flashing some government organisation badge and dragging you along for interrogation/intimidation/incarceration because of "national security issues".
Or burying you under a lawsuit for possession of drugs and/or child porn that you never, ever bought but that turns up nonetheless when your flat is searched.

Mate, these are paranoid delusions.  During the Bush presidency all anybody in the US ever did was b*tch about their government and its politics and yet we didn't see mass arrests, did we?  If you can't see the world of difference between the FBI and the Stasi then you are a fool.  It is possible to discriminate between shades of grey, you know.

Actually I knew of some people who were arrested during Iraq war protests for "disturbing the peace/disrupting traffic"

[Dean_the_Young]

Being arrested and released shortly after during a noisy protest is quite a different thing than being hunted down and arrested for bad mouthing the exalted President.

[Sajuro]

True but the pretenses were flimsy and it was still freedom of speech being infringed.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

True but the pretenses were flimsy and it was still freedom of speech being infringed.

You do not have the right to obstruct traffic.

The question is if the charges of obstructing traffic had merit. And if some people started insulting protestors, that could be flimsy ground for charging the protestors for disrupting the peace.

[Sajuro]

lovgreno wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

"Looks like his body was completely ripped apart"
"blurgh blarg bluuuur" -puts on shades- "blurgh"
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

The CSI husk show was actualy a part of Cerberus plan to make husks more popular with the public. The husks was also often shown drinking the new Thorian Power Drink and saying things like: "After I started drinking Thorian I don't need any proof to give my full support to Cerberus. Blind faith in TIM is the only way to save the galaxy!"

When asked for comment after drinking Thorian Juice, a Cerberus enthusiast said "I support Cerberus since thinking bad thoughts hurts!"

[Dean_the_Young]

But Obama's a Kenyan-British-Indonesian-Canadian immigrant out to steal our jobs!

[Sajuro]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

But Obama's a Kenyan-British-Indonesian-Canadian immigrant out to steal our jobs!

this one has been listening to Westerlund News